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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:44 pm    Post subject: Audio Interview: Richard Gage on 9/11 Demolitions Reply with quote

NEW PART 2 AUDIO BELOW.

RICHARD GAGE INTERVIEW HERE.



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The Next Level Show - 28th January, 2009

9/11 The Final Verdict:
Part 1: The CIA v. 9/11 Truth


The intelligence agencies behind 9/11 have cleverly misdirected
9/11 Truth activists into flimsy issues which only discredit them.
Fintan Dunne examines evidence of a covert plan to decieve on
the issue of the controlled demolition of the Twin Towers.


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REFERENCES

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Cockpit View of American Flight 11 on 9/11

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmc_KhdUi7g

WTC Impact of Flight 11, Cockpit View
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=folRrPolL7M
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Flight Paths into WTC - 9/11 Commission

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=YJX2fStDMo4


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North Tower Impact Angle


South Tower Impact Angle


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WAG THE WTC II
THE BLOCKBUSTER


by Fintan Dunne,
Research Kathy McMahon
4th October 2001

What you will discover here will shatter any illusions you have
about the reasons behind the World Trade Center attack. This
'Wag the WTC' blockbuster is making a pile of money for some.


FACT: The contractor whose people were the first on the WTC
collapse scene --to cart away the rubble that remains-- is the same
contractor who demolished and hauled away the shell of the bombed
Oklahoma City Murrah building. The name of the contractor is Controlled
Demolition! Their WTC cleanup contract is worth over $7 Billion.
Are you getting the picture?

FACT: The expert widely reported as certain the WTC was
demolished --who later changed his mind-- is a demolition explosives
specialist from New Mexico Tech Institute. That's precisely where the
people first on the Pentagon crash scene were trained. Tech was also a
hot tip to get the contract for training the new Federal Air Marshals.
Are you getting the picture?

FACT: Most of the World Trade Center changed hands in a $3.2
billion, 99-year lease deal that was concluded only seven weeks before
the attack; with a sweetheart tax deal and new insurance covering
buildings and rents -payable to new beneficiaries.
Are you getting the picture?

Continues at:
http://breakfornews.com/wag/the_blockbuster.htm


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September 21, 2001

Fire, Not Extra Explosives, Doomed Buildings, Expert Says

By John Fleck - Journal Staff Writer

A New Mexico explosives expert says he now believes there were
no explosives in the World Trade Center towers, contrary to comments
he made the day of the Sept. 11 terrorist attack.


"Certainly the fire is what caused the building to fail," said Van Romero, a
vice president at the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology.

The day of the attack, Romero told the Journal the towers' collapse, as
seen in news videotapes, looked as though it had been triggered by
carefully placed explosives.

Subsequent conversations with structural engineers and more detailed
looks at the tape have led Romero to a different conclusion.

Romero supports other experts, who have said the intense heat of the jet
fuel fires weakened the skyscrapers' steel structural beams to the point
that they gave way under the weight of the floors above.

That set off a chain reaction, as upper floors pancaked onto lower ones.

Romero said he believes still it is possible that the final collapse of each
building was triggered by a sudden pressure pulse caused when the fire
reached an electrical transformer or other source of combustion within
the building.

But he said he now believes explosives would not have been needed to
create the collapse seen in video images.

Conspiracy theorists have seized on Romero's comments as
evidence for their argument that someone else, possibly the U.S.
government, was behind the attack on the Trade Center.


Romero said he has been bombarded with electronic mail from the
conspiracy theorists.

"I'm very upset about that," he said. "I'm not trying to say anything did or
didn't happen."


BELOW IS THE ORIGINAL STORY AS IT APPEARED
ON SEPT. 11, 2001 hours after the attack.



September 11, 2001

Explosives Planted In Towers, N.M. Tech Expert Says

By Olivier Uyttebrouck
Journal Staff Writer

Televised images of the attacks on the World Trade Center suggest
that explosives devices caused the collapse of both towers, a New
Mexico Tech explosion expert said Tuesday.


The collapse of the buildings appears "too methodical" to be a chance
result of airplanes colliding with the structures, said Van Romero, vice
president for research at New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology.

"My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the
World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the
buildings that caused the towers to collapse," Romero said.

Romero is a former director of the Energetic Materials Research and
Testing Center at Tech, which studies explosive materials and the effects
of explosions on buildings, aircraft and other structures.

Romero said he based his opinion on video aired on national television
broadcasts.

Romero said the collapse of the structures resembled those of controlled
implosions used to demolish old structures.

"It would be difficult for something from the plane to trigger an event like
that," Romero said in a phone interview from Washington, D.C.

Romero said he and another Tech administrator were on a Washington-
area subway when an airplane struck the Pentagon.

He said he and Denny Peterson, vice president for administration and
finance, were en route to an office building near the Pentagon to discuss
defense-funded research programs at Tech.

If explosions did cause the towers to collapse, the detonations could have
been caused by a small amount of explosive, he said.

"It could have been a relatively small amount of explosives placed in
strategic points," Romero said. The explosives likely would have been put
in more than two points in each of the towers, he said.

The detonation of bombs within the towers is consistent with a common
terrorist strategy, Romero said.

"One of the things terrorist events are noted for is a diversionary attack
and secondary device," Romero said.

Attackers detonate an initial, diversionary explosion that attracts
emergency personnel to the scene, then detonate a second explosion,
he said.

Romero said that if his scenario is correct, the diversionary attack would
have been the collision of the planes into the towers.

Tech President Dan Lopez said Tuesday that Tech had not been asked to
take part in the investigation into the attacks. Tech often assists in
forensic investigations into terrorist attacks, often by setting off similar
explosions and studying the effects.

http://web.archive.org/web/20011106213046/http://www.abqjournal.com/aqvan09-11-01.htm

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fascinating audio, and an interesting new approach. Just off the top of my head, 2 issues still bother me:

(1) If no controlled demolition was involved, I want to know how the top 1/4 of the South Tower began to topple over, then disintegrated in the dust cloud. I can accept that perhaps the structure was not as structurally sound as we were lead to believe, but that doesn't mean it would break up on it's own while free-falling. It seems that huge chunks of that would have hit the street almost intact. However, if the m.o. is poor qulity - or deliberately poor quality - construction was the intention, then... okay. But to take for granted this entire building would break up without help? I dunno. That much still smells very funny to me.

And (2), almost from the onset I was convinced that - with all the obvious references slammed in our faces about Controlled Demolition - from the squibs to the laughably obvious name of the clean-up crew - that it was either a red herring, or a leading issue towards another possible situation: that being, my nagging suspicion for years now, that 9/11 will someday be revealed (in a very limited hangout sort of way, of course) when it is time to stick the final knife in the back of US national sovereignty. That the "evil NeoCons" were responsible for this atrocity, and the "good NeoLiberals" can now safely lead us into socialist-fascist World Government.

The CD references put out there over and over are an exact parallel to Rumsfeld's "misspoken" remarks (twice, no doubt) in the MSM about "the missile that hit the Pentagon." Create the bad guy, then have him "let one slip", and everyone buys it. Quite the reverse of how Global Warming was first sold to the Left, by having the likes of Rush Limbaugh actually be right about this scam - then not only will no Liberal doubt it's veracity, but even if proven right (as may be happening now) no Liberal will ever freely admit that Rush could possibly be correct about anything.

If nothing else, this new scenario also confirms the depth of control that is wielded in the MSM, as far as who is allowed to speak and when.

It may take a while for this new angle to sink in, but I'm open to it so far. And the bottom line about "the bottom line" always appeals to me. Everything seems to always be ultimately about the Benjamins, doesn't it?

Confused

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a lot of people have had this particular angle in the back of their minds. Some might even say you've gone fruitloop, but I applaud you for taking it even if you're wrong.


I for one have been wondering about all of this for quite sometime.(concrete core pg.18 bottom) I wonder what's kept me back from fully considering it? It may or may not make some other things more complicated, such as the "wrong tower fell first" issue.

For starters however take a look at these floor trusses:

I'm certainly no construction expert...

Unscaled schematic







Yikes

I'll be tuning in tomorrow.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some interesting analysis that most in the Turth movement would consider disinfo:

a Fire Chief

http://vincentdunn.com/wtc.html

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In terms of structural system the twin towers departed completely from other high-rise buildings. Conventional skyscrapers since the 19th century have been built with a skeleton of interior supporting columns that supports the structure. Exterior walls of glass steel or synthetic material do not carry any load. The Twin towers are radically different in structural design as the exterior wall is used as the load-bearing wall. (A load bearing wall supports the weight of the floors.) The only interior columns are located in the core area, which contains the elevators. The outer wall carries the building vertical loads and provides the entire resistance to wind. The wall consists of closely spaced vertical columns (21 columns 10 feet apart) tied together by horizontal spandrel beams that girdle the tower at every floor. On the inside of the structure the floor sections consist of trusses spanning from the core to the outer wall.


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The Empire State Building

Perhaps builders should take a second look at the Empire State Buildings construction. There might be something to learn when they rebuild on ground zero. The empire state building has exterior Indiana limestone exterior wall, 8 inches thick. The floors are also 8 inches thick consisting of one-inch cement over 7 inches of cinder and concrete. All columns, girders and floor beams are solid steel covered with 1 to 2 inches of brick terracotta and concrete. There is virtually no opening in the floors. And there are no air ducts of a HVAC heating cooling and venting system penetrating fire partitions, floor, and ceilings. Each floor has its own HVAC unit. The elevators and utility shafts are masonry enclosed. And for life safety there is a 4-inch brick enclosed so-called “smoke proof stairway”. This stairway is designed to allow people to leave a floor without smoke following them and filing up the stairway. This is accomplished because this smoke proof stairway has an intermediate vestibule, which contains a vent shaft. Any smoke that seeps out the occupancy is sucked up a vent shaft.


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The performance building code

How did lightweight high-rise construction evolve since WWII? It evolved with the help of the so-called performance code. After WWII the builders complained about building codes. They said they were too restrictive and specified every detail of construction. They called the old building codes “specification codes”. They complained the codes specified the size and type and some times even the make of a product used in construction. They decried the specification code as old fashion. They wanted the building codes changed to what they called “performance codes.” They wanted the building codes to specify the performance requirements only; and, not specify the size and type of building material to use. For example, with fire resistive requirements they wanted the code to state just the hours of fire resistance (one, two, three or four hours) required by law; and not to state the specific type and material used to protect structural steel and enclosures for stairways and elevators shafts. For example, a performance building code states: the steel has to be protected against heat of flames for one, two, three or four hours during a fire. It does not state what to use as a fire resisting material. This performance code signaled the end to concrete encasement fire protection and allowed a spray on fire protection for steel and plasterboard enclosed stairs and elevator shafts. Builders hailed the New York City building code of 1968 as a good performance code. However, some fire chiefs decried it as a law that substituted frills for real construction safety. The asbestos spray on coating of steel trusses used in the WTC towers was considered by Chief of the New York City Fire Department, at the time, John T. O’ Hagan to be inferior to concrete encasement of steel. Writing in his book, High Rise Fire and Life Safety. l976, he listed the following problems of spray-on fire protection of steel:

1. Failure to prepare the steel for spray-on coating adhesion. Rust and dirt allowed spray-on fire retarding coating to scale and fall away from steel during construction
2. Poor or uneven application of the spray-on fire retarding was discovered during post fire investigations
3. Variation of spray-on material during manufacture makes it ineffective
4. Lack of thoroughness in covering the steel during application is a problem
5. Failure to replace spray-on material dislodged by other trades people performing work around the steel during the construction of the building.

The WTC started construction in the 1970s. And the WTC towers built by the Port Authority of New York did not have to comply with the minimum requirements of the new1968 performance building code.


Not only was the '68 code bad apparently, but PA didn't even have to abide by it!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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FACT: Most of the World Trade Center changed hands in a $3.2
billion, 99-year lease deal that was concluded only seven weeks before
the attack; with a sweetheart tax deal and new insurance covering
buildings and rents -payable to new beneficiaries.
Are you getting the picture?


This alone is no coincidence. The inspection for re-insurance was done by a Central NJ company. The office manager would not go into details about any information when I aksed questions. This person has since diluted our relationship to zero.

I have also spoken to a co-worker eye-witness in the transportation industry. He's become a stranger, at first taking my calls, then using his wife as a gatekeeper.

I had written to a unionized company in the area. They required formal letters of inquriy, and I decided not to pursue the matter due to organized crime elements in the capacity of principal positions in the company.

People's lives and livelihoods definitley get in the way of truth. Including my own.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to muddy this thread with my insanity, but it would be interesting to pull a reversed "Fail Safe" move by hitting a UAE skyscraper with a fully fueled jumbo jet... and then watch what happens.

Natch, it'd need to be done a little before people go to work, sort of the way the WTC happened. (Those "terrsts" were quite humane in their timing, weren't they?)

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RedMahna wrote:
Not to muddy this thread with my insanity, but it would be interesting to pull a reversed "Fail Safe" move by hitting a UAE skyscraper with a fully fueled jumbo jet... and then watch what happens.

Natch, it'd need to be done a little before people go to work, sort of the way the WTC happened. (Those "terrsts" were quite humane in their timing, weren't they?)

red

Absolutely. Even before I suspected 9/11 for what it was, I questioned the poor timing of the flights. Supposedly so many years of prep went into this attack to punish the "hated Americans", and they didn't wait another 45 minutes, until there reportedly would have been like 20,000 people in each building????

Oh yes, I forgot the one-scam-fits-all explanation for every anomaly everywhere. INCOMPETANCE. The magical I-word. It's not just confined to the US govt, you know. Cool

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the Executive Branch of the Bush presidency, they have no regrets nor did they make any mistakes (per Cheney).
So, yeah, everyone else is obviously incompetent. There is no other explanation.

(And your music rocks, btw... )

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedMahna wrote:

(And your music rocks, btw... )

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Thanks, Red. And as of this week, now available on Amazon, CDBaby and iTunes. Laughing

I'd have it on more retailers, but.... I'm incompetent.

Sorry, thread hijacking over now. I will bang my head on the floor until forgiven.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great audio Fintan, though they may excommunicate you from the 911movement

BTW how do I get a copy of that song

“Walking into the sun” that was on the audio


Regarding 911
I still like my theory

EYES WIDE SHUT
The 911 op was a success not only in geo-political and economic terms but as regards the idea that it was an EYES WIDE SHUT psychological op as well.

An Eyes Wide Shut op is this:

Yes we did it ass holes. And have shown you how we did it and why we did it, and guess what?
YOU CANT DO A DAM THING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE YOU CANT EVEN SEE THE OBVIOUS!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedMahna wrote:
Not to muddy this thread with my insanity, but it would be interesting to pull a reversed "Fail Safe" move by hitting a UAE skyscraper with a fully fueled jumbo jet... and then watch what happens.

Natch, it'd need to be done a little before people go to work, sort of the way the WTC happened. (Those "terrsts" were quite humane in their timing, weren't they?)

red


Remember, these were completely unique buildings.




I'm not jumping to conclusions but could Fintan be correct in his ideas that these were self shredding death machines after a powerful enough initiation?

I'm wondering how this could have been pulled off as Roberstson and Yamasaki certainly wouldn't be implicated in my book.

The guy John Skilling, whom Fintan mentioned, made some interesting comments in '93. I'm not implicating him directly, but these are certainly strange comments in retrospect, especially a day after the 93 bomb attack, probably a coincidence. I guess terrorist bombs would be on anyone's mind after such a big blast.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19930227&slug=1687698

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Twin Towers Engineered To Withstand Jet Collision

By Eric Nalder

Engineers had to consider every peril they could imagine when they designed the World Trade Center three decades ago because, at the time, the twin towers were of unprecedented size for structures made of steel and glass.

"We looked at every possible thing we could think of that could happen to the buildings, even to the extent of an airplane hitting the side," said John Skilling, head structural engineer. "However, back in those days people didn't think about terrorists very much."

Skilling, based in Seattle, is among the world's top structural engineers. He is responsible for much of Seattle's downtown skyline and for several of the world's tallest structures, including the Trade Center.

Concerned because of a case where an airplane hit the Empire State Building, Skilling's people did an analysis that showed the towers would withstand the impact of a Boeing 707.

"Our analysis indicated the biggest problem would be the fact that all the fuel (from the airplane) would dump into the building. There would be a horrendous fire. A lot of people would be killed," he said. "The building structure would still be there."

Skilling - a recognized expert in tall buildings - doesn't think a single 200-pound car bomb would topple or do major structural damage to a Trade Center tower. The supporting columns are closely spaced and even if several were disabled, the others would carry the load.

"However," he added, "I'm not saying that properly applied explosives - shaped explosives - of that magnitude could not do a tremendous amount of damage."

He took note of the fact that smoke and fire spread throughout the building yesterday. He said that is possibly because the pressurizing system that stops the spread of smoke didn't work when the electric power went off. Skilling, 72, was not involved in the design of the building mechanics.

Although Skilling is not an explosives expert, he says there are people who do know enough about building demolition to bring a structure like the Trade Center down.

"I would imagine that if you took the top expert in that type of work and gave him the assignment of bringing these buildings down with explosives, I would bet that he could do it."


Copyright (c) 1993 Seattle Times Company, All Rights Reserved.


Can't ask him, he died of a stroke in 98'.


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Zak247:
Great audio Fintan, though they may excommunicate you from the 911 movement

Lol - 'they' already have dude. Laughing
BFN was airbrushed from the "cartel's" websites within days of our
"CIA Fakes" analysis. But we're still prepared to call it as it is.

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BTW how do I get a copy of that song
“Walking into the sun” that was on the audio.

Here as a vid thx to rustyh: http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4561
Here for Dxwnlxad (Sssshhh!):
http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/WeekendPlayers-IntoTheSun-2002promo.mp3

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Bri
For starters however take a look at these floor trusses

Yeah those trusses were the bulding's Achilles Heel.
They were all that held the perimiter in place. Ouch!

Ok lemme get Part 2 done. Brb.....

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