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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Research Treasure Trove Reply with quote

Reply to this topic with links to online resources, both
mainstream and alternative. Links to archives, photos
videos, official reports etc.

Also any tidbits that you come across that are interesting.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:45 pm    Post subject: Back to 2001 Reply with quote

Engineer's articles on WTC collapse

Fire Protection Myths for Steel Debunked
Chicago, IL - June 4, 2001

Many engineers are over-specifying fire protection for structural steel-framed buildings, according to a new report by Richard Gewain of Hughes Associates, Inc., and Emile W.J. Troup, P.E., a consultant and structural engineer based in New England. In many cases the over-specification results in a 25-50% addition in fire protection, which adds approximately $0.25/sq. ft. to the cost of construction. These numbers become especially troubling in light of actual fire performance. A review of fire data shows no evidence of any collapses due to structural failure during a fire in a modern structural steel-framed high-rise building in the U.S

Arup Fire’s presentation regarding tall buildings and the events of 9/11
London 12 April 2005.

This document is based upon a talk given at the NCE conference held at the Cavendish Conference Centre

Behavior of Twin Towers In Collapse Mystifies Experts
After its upper floors burned for about an hour, the north tower came down in a progressive collapse.
"From what I observed on TV, it appeared that the floor diaphragm, necessary to brace the exterior columns, had lost connection to the exterior wall," according to Jon D. Magnusson, chairman-CEO of Skilling Ward Magnusson Barkshire Inc., Seattle, one of the successor firms of Skilling Ward Christiansen Robertson, structural engineer of record for the World Trade Center.

When the stability was lost, the exterior columns buckled outward, allowing the floors above to drop down onto floors below, overloading and failing each one as it went down, he says.

The twin towers, framed in structural steel, had exterior moment frames with 14-in. steel box columns spaced 39 in. on center. The configuration created a complete tube around the building. The central steel core carried gravity loads only. The exterior tube provided all the lateral resistance. Horizontal steel trusses spanned 60 ft from the exterior wall to the core. Concrete on metal deck completed the floor diaphragm.

The planes compromised the structural tube and the fires that followed, likely fed by jet fuel, probably burned to temperatures beyond the integrity of the fireproofed steel, which is designed to withstand 1,500 to 1,600° F heat.

Engineers seek answers after mighty towers fall
Joseph Burns, a partner at the Chicago firm of Thornton-Thomasetti Engineers: "No one designs buildings for bombs the size of 767s."

Burns said he attended a conference last week in Frankfurt, Germany, at which Leslie Robertson, the World Trade Center's chief structural engineer, was asked after a presentation to describe what he had done to protect the twin towers from terrorist attacks. Burns said Robertson replied: "I designed it for a 707 to smash into it."

Engineering Forensics of Collapse
17 October 2001

Image of steel from WTC

On the structures

The 1 & 2 World Trade Center
The prefabricated steel elements made in the mid-west and on the west coast were shipped to New York and eight cranes built in Australia were used to hoist the elements into place. In all, 181,400 metric tons of structural steel was used in the towers.

The Buildings
The twin towers of the World Trade Center (WTC) were among the first skyscrapers built using the framed-tube concept to provide lateral resistance to wind loads. The steel framed-tube system comprised four major structural components:

The Energy of Motion
Buildings must move to resist energy, absorb load and hold up. "A rule of thumb is that a building can sway a quarter percent of its height before damage occurs," says Saunders. "In wind, tall buildings complete a pendulum-like movement. The time it takes to execute one full cycle is called the building’s period. The number of times this cycle occurs per second is the frequency or hertz, which is measured in cycles per second and should take about one-tenth of a second per story.


The World Trade Center Catastrophe: Was the Type of Spray Fire Proofing a Factor in the Collapse of the Twin Towers?

The structural collapse of the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center occurred in a time period far shorter than its statutory Fire Code rating. Speculation gave rise to theories that the steel had buckled because of the substitution of the original asbestos-containing fireproofing with a non-asbestos-containing vitreous fibre formulation. The substitution was thought to have come about due to New York City's 1972 ban of such materials in construction.

The use of substitute material in the Towers actually pre-dated the New York City ban by almost 2 years. Although, the substitute material may have had the same thermal rating for fire, its characteristics concerning durability during service are now known to have been inferior. At the time of application and construction, no performance criteria were available concerning application thickness, adherence character, compressive strength, or density.

The cancer risk associated with asbestos exposures for residents of Lower Manhattan resulting from the collapse of the WTC is negligible.
(C)2005The American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:53 pm    Post subject: Who is Van The Man? Reply with quote

Van D. Romero,
Romero is the Vice President for Research and Economic Development at the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology. Romero is also a Professor of Physics at New Mexico Tech. He received his Bachelor of Science and Master of Science in Physics from the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology and his Ph.D. in Physics from the State University of New York.

Romero is also on the "Presidential Advisory Commission on Educational Excellence for Hispanic Americans" as a commission member

Check out the other Commission members here:

Romero is the "expert" who was reported as saying "Explosives were planted in towers"
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:11 pm    Post subject: Here's something... Reply with quote

Here's an angle I've not heard before:

What do the Statue of Liberty and WTC Towers have in common?

An architects' two cents worth:

The Statue of Liberty had to be repaired due to galvanic corrosion in air. Not what most think is possible but in ocean environments, very possible. Normally galvanic corrosion is only a factor in an electrolyte such as sea water and the stern drive on the boat - having steel and aluminum components - erodes, turns brittle and snap - it fails - if electrolytic grounding plates are not installed.

"""The galvanic reaction between iron and copper was originally mitigated by insulating copper from the iron framework using an asbestos cloth soaked in shellac. However, the integrity and sealing property of this improvised insulator broke down over the many years of exposure to high levels of humidity normal in a marine environment. The insulating barrier became a sponge that kept the salted water present as a conductive electrolyte, forming a crude electrochemical cell as and Volta had discovered a century earlier."""

In 1989 - there were plans to erect scaffolding and disassemble the WTC towers and rebuild them. Cost projection was around $5.6 billion. One of the architects shows up to work one day and the MIB's were there - had confiscated all of the plans, specs, details, etc for WTC. They even confiscated their office cubicles and had tape on the floor outlining where they went.

Reason - the exterior cast aluminum WTC panels had been directly connected to the steel superstructure of the building, thus causing galvanic corrosion. In short, the "life cycle" of the WTC was not 200 - 300 years, more like 30 years or so.

The exterior skin of the building - in being aluminum and connected directly to the super structure - was making the building weaker every day.

That could explain why there appears to be explosives set only about every 25 floors. Once the failure started, the brittleness of welds, rivets, bolts, etc would fail much easier as the loads became progressively greater on the way down.

That same process would also explain why the concrete was "powderized" over time because electrolytic processes weaken concrete too by "debonding" the Portland that causes concrete to bond in the first place. However, bear in mind that the "concrete floors" were not load bearing reinforced concrete. They were supported by what was a weakening by the day superstructure and cross members.

There was a 1989 meeting and the folks at the architectural firm [Emory Roth, the project architect that took over after the design architects completed the conceptual drawings] that had their office, records, plans and specs seized - were told that the $5.6 billion "take it down, rebuild it" project was cancelled and in about "10-12 years" they would "blow it up and start over". Consider that - and consider that NYC and the US Govt could not stand the global embarrassment of being so stupid or negligent that they did not consider the effects of galvanic corrosion on the superstructure. That is structural design 101 in architectural school and why they want architects to take physics and chemistry for Christ's sake. I did.

I am an architect by the way, quit practicing in 1988.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:19 pm    Post subject: 9/11 Political Map Reply with quote

Via Jerry F., here's a mini political map of the 9/11 movement for newbies.
It's semi official even, as it's a view from the perspective of Nico Haupt.

I got 'Backstabber of the Year'. Bit petty that.
I'd think I deserved 'Pain in the Ass of the Year'.

...okay guys, please don't take it too serious

and happy new year Smile



Ewing2001's 2005 9/11 "truthseeker" Oscars:

Hoaxer of the year:

Tom Flocco

Most annoying fake activist newcomer:

Jonathan Gold

Best research team:


Best female Visualist:

Rosalee Grable

Best male Visualist:

Marcus Icke

Biggest "political hope" 2005:

Morgan Reynolds

Biggest scam of the year:

Mike Ruppert's 25k campaign to promote his new video

Biggest political 9/11 truthling scammer:

Karl Schwarz

Best female analyst "newcomer":

Lynn Ertel (911InsideJobbers, other lists...)

Best male analyst "newcomer":

Ron Wynn (Planehuggers etc....)

Best research blog newcomer:


Best tabloid 9/11 blog:


Best 'outsider' 9/11 blog:


Best alternative news portal:


Best alternative 9/11 blog:


Biggest Newcomer 9/11 research blog:



Most interesting blog:


Best news analysis blog:


Biggest alternative warcriminal:


Biggest 'anti-war' war criminal:


Phoniest 9/11 truth activists:


9/11 activist group of the year:

London 9/11 Skeptics

Best analyst online group:

Planehuggers Yahoo

Deceptionist of the year:

Tom Heneghan/Stew Webb

Worst slogan of the year:

"Bring the troops home"

Best slogan of the year:

Fight the "truthlings"

Most annoying "daisy committee":

"LARED" (DemocraticUnderground.com)

Best business and history researcher (BUHI Award):


Best 9/11 'documentary' of the year:

Rick Siegel- 911EyeWitness(.com)

Best 9/11 'infotainment' video of the year:

Loose Change Crew- Loose Change II

Best 9/11 fictional movie:


Alltime 9/11 science award:

Jeff "Plaguepuppy" King

Brain of the year:

Gerard Holmgren

Clown of the year:

Christopher Young

 http://www.wheretovote.com (on FOX TV)

U-Turner of the year:

Professor Paul E. Jones

Idiot of the year:


Best political 9/11 campaign:


Best Pentagon researcher:


Propaganda Scam of the year:

Flu/Bird Flu/Weaponised Bird Flu

Biggest Female Gatekeeper of the year:

Sibel Edmonds

Biggest Male Gatekeeper of the year:

Curt Weldon

Cartoonist 9/11 truthseeker of the year:

Aaron McGruder (Boondocks)

9/11 'truthling' filmmaker sellout of the year:

Oliver Stone

Most ignored 9/11 researcher safety award:


Biggest 9/11 science saboteurs:

Scientific American, Popular Mechanics

Biggest 9/11 research hateword:


Flip-Flopper of the year:

Eric Hufschmid

Biggest non 9/11 science hope:

Richard C. Hoagland


Page 1 truthseeker hero award:

Imam Intikab Habib

Biggest hope of mainstream news portals:

Free Market News

Most obvious false flag operation of the year:

7/7 (london)

Conventional political voice of the year:

Abdurrahman Wahid

(former President of Indonesia from 1999 to 2001)

Most progressive TV/Radio show on the net:


"Planehugger" of the year:


Research Heroes of the year:

All 9/11- "TV Bluescreen fakery" researchers

Best 9/11 "truthling" PR Campaign team:

Jimmy Walter, William Rodriguez

Worst 9/11 "truthling" PR campaigner:

David Kubiak and truthemergency.us

Alternative media clown of the year:

George Noory

Most ignored 9/11 research:

Raytheon-Teradyne-Passenger research

Most overhyped 9/11 research:

"Controlled Demolition"

Biggest US fake politician of the year:

John Conyers, John Murtha

Phantom Fake "Al-Quaeda" Idiot of the year:

Al Zarquawi

Worst mainstream media Fake:

Bob Woodward

Worst alternative media deceptionists:

Air America

Worst Truthling Discussion Board Controller:

Skinner of DemocraticUnderground.com

Limited Hangout of the year:

"Bring the troops home"

Best 9/11 research 'wiki':


Best radio/video collection:


Biggest political scam of the year:

"Kidnappings" in Iraq

Biggest political deceptionist:

Richard Clarke

Female McCarthyist of the year:

Victoria Ashley

Male McCarthyist of the year:

"repost" etc... aka Mark Rabinowitz (portland.indymedia.org)

Danger Alert of the year:

Rudy Guiliani

Author of the year:

Webster Tarpley

Special Memorium Award:

Joe Vialls

9/11 was an "inside job" porn award:

Larry Flynt presents David Ray Griffin

Most dangerous private military contractor:


Biggest political 9/11 truthseeker distraction:

"Pakistan-9/11" connection

Biggest fake opposition:

Democratic Party and "Limousine Liberals"

"Howard Beale" Award of the year:

Greg Nixon (911Truth Action, 911InsideJobbers etc...)

Cointel-pro wannabee idiot of the year:

Art Bell

Ghostzone award of the year:

Daily911.info, "9/11 Truth Alliance"

Most unimportant gatekeeper project:


Sleeping Pill of the year:

Nafeez Ahmed

Biggest "truthling" u-turn sellout:

Paul Hellyer

Background Deceptionists of the year:

Club of Rome, Club of Rome tt30

Camera Truthseeker Workaholic teamsters of the year:

John Gannon, Hummux

Newcomer 9/11 'media' artists of the year:

Les Raphael

Watchdog of the year:

Angie d'Urso

Most ignored threat of the year:

World War IV/V

Most ignored individual threat of the year:

Paul Wolfowitz (World Bank)

Cultist of the year:

Les Jamieson (URANTIA, ny911truth.org)

Mainstream Media Whores of the year:

Judith Miller (NY Times), Ralph Peters (NY Post)

Most annoying media distractions:

Gannon affair, Equatorial Guinea/Thatcher + Co., Hillary Clinton,

"Downing Street memo"

Most annoying 9/11 "truthling" distraction:

Able Danger

Writer of the year:

Michel Chussodowski, Kurt Nimmo

Fake Democrats of the year:

National Endowment for Democracy

Fake Republicans of the year:

Every Chuck Hagel supporter

Biggest new individual political european threat:

Angela "Bilderberg" Merkel (Germany)

World Organisation Idiot of the year:

Kofi Annan

Red Herring of the year:

Able Danger

Sensationalist of the year:

Tom Flocco

Best mainstream 9/11 truthseeker product:

TATORT (Crime show)

German TV show depicts 9/11 as Inside Job plot

Biggest 9/11 truthling mainstream saboteurs:

Lee Hamilton, Tom Kean

Biggest 9/11 family 'truthling' deceptionist:

Kristin Breitweiser

Biggest 9/11 media deceptionist:

Scott Myers (NIST), Sep11th- 'cameraman"

Double Standard of the year:

"Controlled Demolition" vs. "9/11 TV Bluescreen Fakery"

Oddest Non-release of the year:

Matt Everett and Paul Thompson "terror drill" research, never added to Pt.2

Neocon Fascist of the year:

Douglas Feith, Stephen Cambone

Alltime NY 9/11 activist:

"Rabbi Philo", rabbiphilo.blogspot.com

Hang-in there activist of the year:

Carol Brouillet

Media Limes of the year:

Mark Morford, Sarah Ferguson

Weekly Paper of the year:

Boulder Weekly

9/11 propaganda media project of the year:

National Geographic Channel Program Series "Inside 9/11"

9/11 family truthling of the year:


Globalist Scums of the year:

Eliot Cohen, James Baker, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, John Bolton

Best alternative paper:

American Free Press

Best 9/11 activist group:


Best 9/11 tabloid graphic designer:

<img src="/img/maillink.gif" border="0"/> Ron@midtownriot.com

Best 9/11 truthling sound:

Les Visible

 link to multigraphic.dk

Fake Terror-Blog of the year:


Non-U.S. Terror scam countries of the year:

Indonesia, Netherlands, United Kingdom, Australia,

Germany, Italy, France, China, Taiwan, Ukraine

Idiots of the year:

All "teletubbies"

Youngsters of the year:

Luke Rudkowski, 19

Presenter of Loose Change II in NYC

Will R. Huysman, 15


Almost wakeupper of the year:

Greg Szymanski

Alltime Database Genius Award:

"Dulce Decorum"

NSA "darling" of the year:

Jim Hoffman (MSRI), Dr. Jack Hoffman/June Armstrong, Neil Armstrong/Veridian

FBI "darling" of the year:

Michael Bloomberg

Homeland Security "darling" of the year:

Bernard Kerik

CIA "darling" of the year:

In-Q-Tel, Michael Griffith (NASA, ex-In Q-tel)

Cointel-pro "darling" of the year:

David Kubiak (911truth.org)

White House moron of the year:

Lewis Libby

Research workaholic of the year:

John Doe II (team8plus.org)

9/11 truthseeker medium of the year:


Spammer of the year:

truthout.org, Jon Carlson, bagl worm, Eli Pariser

Biggest activist protest scam:

9/11 anniversary 'protest' at United Nations, NYC

Biggest activist protest hope:

9/11 anniversary 'protest' at Ground Zero, NYC

Biggest newcomer research hope:


Biggest gatekeeper hope:


Favourite 9/11 truthling politician:

Craig Hill

9/11 truthling mainstream article of the year:

 link to www.miami.com

Setting the record straight on 9/11

Miami Herald

9/11 truthling hateword of the year:


Anti-Zionist Split Personality of the year:

Dick 'Ole' Eastman

Blindling news- "hang in there" darling of the year:

CLG News, Lori Price

Activist 9/11 truthling ignorant of the year:

Cindy Sheehan

9/11 truthling sellout party of the year:

National Green Party

Worst Gatekeeper News Portal:

Counterpunch, dailyKos

9/11 sleeping pill truthling projects:

911fraud.blogspot, question911.com

9/11 gatekeeper portal of the year:

summeroftruth.org, wanttoknow.info

Alltime 9/11 gatekeeper lemon award:

Michael Moore

Danger Shadows of the year:

Joseph Morrris, Andrew W. "Yoda" Marshall (both ManTech, NYC)

Lockheed (MTA contracts)

Taiwan's forthcoming fake Al-Quaeda terror cell

Karl Schwarz

Hillary Clinton

John Mc Cain


Google's NSA connection

9/11 footage hunter of the year:

Tim Canale (US), Ali G. (UK)

Biggest alltime distraction from 9/11 perps:

"White Vans", "Dancing Jews" and "arrested art students"

Backstabber of the year:

Fintan Dunne/Breakfornews.com

9/11 cover-up supporting artists of the year:

NRO, 911truth.org, Amy Goodman, Danny Schecter, Peter Lance,

Ray McGovern, ACLU, ANSWER, William Rivers Pitt, Gerhard Schroeder

Most sabotaged 9/11 truthling politician:

Cynthia McKinney

Red Herring revival of the year:


Alltime Most ignored 9/11 Smoking Gun:

Anthrax from Fort Detrick

Most unimportant heckler of the year:

Christopher Brodeur (also for running as NY Mayor)

Gatekeeper author of the year:

Paul Zarembka

Scandinavian 'Frozen Joghurt' Truthseeker Award:

Elias Davidson (Iceland, not scandinavia),

Peter Kofod (norway), K-robjoe (team8plus, finland), terrorize.dk (Denmark)

Disinfo portal of the year:







articbeacon.com (for every 3rd article)

Psycho Loner of the year:

Wolfram Grätz/Whoopee News

Netizen of the year:


Mailing List workaholic of the year:

Robert B. Thorne (New Jersey)

Drunken Poet Award:

Jolly "planehug" Roger Smile

9/11 truthling book portal of the year:


Best Truthseeker alert action campaign:

Worldwide Wargame- and Terror Drill Watch (at team8plus.org)


Most innovative newsgroup:

Planehuggers Yahoo, Katrinagate Yahoo, Urantiagate Yahoo

"Spook" of the year:

Karl Schwarz

Crime of the year:


Heckler of the year:

Nico Haupt aka ewing2001 -sorry guys Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:22 pm    Post subject: A few resources (media/ PDF) Reply with quote

Resources: Photography, Video, Graphics, Documents

Great Buildings: Some info about the towers.

Docmentary 911: 9/11 Revisited:

U.S. Army Corps Emergency team pictures

Digital screenshots of web pages from 9/11-2001 (world wide)

Betty Ong call from flight 11 and Betty Gonzalez' call to Amercan Airline Operation Center. (still looking for the cockpit recording)
A bit strange that Betty Ong says first that she's on flight 12!! (one file)
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/911-ong-tape.htm )

Air Traffic Control Recording of 9/11 Flight 93:

Cockpit flight 93:

Explosion Sounds and the World Trade Center - Twin Tower Collapses

FOIA request Pentagon:

A PDF document on the 1-2 of June 2001 exercise 'Amalgum Virgo'
Amalgam Virgo was a multiagency, bilateral air security exercise sponsored by the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD)

General WTC:
http://www.tishmanconstruction.com/pdfs/7wtcgreen.pdf (It would be interesting to find out if any construction plans were initiated before 9/11-2001)
http://www.aapsonline.org/jpands/vol8no3/schlafly.pdf (asbestos ++)
http://disaster.pandj.com/World%20Trade%20Center%20Forensic%20Recovery.pdf (would it be safe to say that the most crucial pieces of construction material was used as land fill?)
http://www.iscpubs.com/articles/al/a0403mar.pdf (forensics)
http://www.newsdayinteractive.com/911/pdf/FDNY_911_Calls_Transcript-Fire-Part_1_9-11-01.pdf (911 calls from the towers around 09.00 AM (part 1) - caller info removed)
http://www.newsdayinteractive.com/911/pdf/FDNY_911_Calls_Transcript-Fire-Part_4_9-11-01.pdf (911 calls from the towers around 09.30 AM (part 4) - caller info removed)

Not directly connected to 9/11: Background (mainstream)

Psychological/Information operations:

World Government/ Network: (for reference/methodology only)
http://utangente.free.fr/biopolice/holiday.swf Wink
Emergencies and US respons: http://www.disaster-timeline.com/DTL06_May27-secured.pdf

Global Hawk/ Euro Hawk: Info

Hmmm... Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Purdue University Pentagon simulation:


Two questions:

1) Where are the walls to the building?!
2) Where are the engines in the simulation?!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For reference:

National Security Archive wrote:
Government Releases Detailed
Information on 9/11 Crashes

Complete Air-Ground Transcripts of Hijacked
9/11 Flight Recordings Declassified

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 196

Edited by Barbara Elias

For more information contact:
Barbara Elias - 202/994-7000

Posted - August 11, 2006

A graphic from an NTSB Flight Path Study of American Airlines Flight 77shows the plane's final maneuver over Alexandria, Virginia, before crashing into the Pentagon. (Click here for larger version)

Washington, DC - August 11, 2006 - The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) this week released full transcripts of the air traffic control recordings from the four flights hijacked on September 11, 2001, and meticulous Flight Path Studies for three of the flights, in response to a Freedom of Information request by the National Security Archive. The studies provide the most detailed technical information available to date related to the hijackings, and the transcripts of the aircraft-to-ground communications are the first complete government disclosure of each flight's air traffic control recordings.

The documents are cited extensively in the 9/11 Commission Report to establish key facts and basic timelines for each hijacked flight. The NTSB Web site references the documents but does not provide copies, claiming "the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 are under the jurisdiction of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The Safety Board provided requested technical assistance to the FBI, and any material generated by the NTSB is under the control of the FBI. The Safety Board does not plan to issue a report or open a public docket." The documents were released in their entirety to the National Security Archive and were received directly from the NTSB.

The transcripts provide additional details to the information summarized in the 9/11 Commission Report. For example, the NTSB transcript differs slightly from the Commission's text of the warning that United Airlines Flight 93 received only minutes before the hijackers attacked. At 9:23am, the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) shows a text message to Flight 93 reading: "BEWARE OF ANY COCKPIT INTROUSION [sic]. TWO AIRCRAFT IN NY, HIT TRADE CNTER BUILDS [sic]." Five minutes later at 9:28am Flight 93 was sending the message "***(mayday)*** (hey get out of here) ***" as it was being hijacked.

The Flight Path Studies reconstruct the routes of American Airlines Flight 11, American Airlines Flight 77 and United Airlines Flight 175. Complied from recorded radar data and information from the Flight Data Recorders, the studies' illustrations of radar ground tracks, maps and altitude profiles provide graphic guides to each hijacking and were used by the NTSB to determine the takeover points where the hijackers gained control of the planes.

In addition to the Flight Path Studies and Air Traffic Control Recording transcripts, the NTSB released a February 2002 "Specialist's Factual Report of Investigation" on United Airlines Flight 93 based on the flight's recovered digital data recorder -- the only surviving recorder from the hijacked planes on 9/11. The report provides graphic analysis of the data recovered from Flight 93 and its subsequent crash in Shanksville, PA. According to the report, the flight recorder functioned normally.


Note: The following documents are in PDF format.
You will need to download and install the free Adobe Acrobat Reader to view.

Document 1: NTSB report, "Flight Path Study-American Airlines Flight 11," Feb. 19, 2002 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnotes 23, 33]

Document 2: NTSB report, "Flight Path Study-American Airlines Flight 77," Feb. 19, 2002 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnote 53]

Document 3: NTSB report, "Flight Path Study-United Airlines 175," Feb. 19, 2002 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnote 41]

Document 4: NTSB report, "Specialist's Factual Report of Investigation-Digital Flight Data Recorder" for United Airlines Flight 93, Feb. 15, 2002 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnotes 70, 71]

Document 5: NTSB report, Air Traffic Control Recording-American Airlines Flight 11, Dec. 21, 2001 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnote 24]

Document 6: NTSB report, Air Traffic Control Recording-American Airlines Flight 77, Dec. 21, 2001 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnote 54]

Document 7: NTSB report, Air Traffic Control Recording-United Airlines Flight 175, Dec. 21, 2001 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnotes 24, 41, 42, 44]

Document 8: NTSB report, Air Traffic Control Recording-United Airlines Flight 93, Dec. 21, 2001 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnote 71]


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Form HybridEB:

A few media resources; some of the more known images in higher resolution, pluss other images and video/audio footage.


A news report resource:


Other resources:



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted it in page 10 of the "WTC - Tower Collapses" topic, but it's liable to get buried in there. So, for what it's worth:
Some other papers (which I haven't read yet) are available at the same site as the above: Journal of Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

(I don't pretend it's unbiased, of course. Clearly, no source is unbiased. Take it for whatever it's worth.)

Edit: For balance, and context, here's the Journal of 9/11 Studies (of which the foregoing journal is a take-off). I haven't read most of its articles/papers, so I can't comment as to its strength or reliability. It does, however, include a few recent or recently-revised papers (September 2006).
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

macauleym wrote:
I posted it in page 10 of the "WTC - Tower Collapses" topic, but it's liable to get buried in there. So, for what it's worth:
Some other papers (which I haven't read yet) are available at the same site as the above: Journal of Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

Intersting take. According to Protec, Controlled Demolition Inc. is lying when they say they had anything to do with salvage efforts at Ground Zero.

So, I began to look for obvious references to them being there. All I can find are references to articles wherein the company director comments on operations post-9/11 in Manhatten - mostly quotes from 9/11 Truth sites making the references. In addition, nowhere on their website - where they cite many past operations - do they mention, in even the slightest detail, any work performed at Ground Zero.

What's going on - was CDI at Ground Zero following 9/11 or were they not? The only references I can find are second hand, and the company does nothing to support this on their website.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe CDI is a distraction. Firms involved in cleanup of the WTC site include AMEC (also Pentagon reconstruction and removal), Bovis Lend Lease, both headquartered in London; Turner, a subsidiary of Germany's Hochtief and Tully Construction of Flushing (only American firm)

I also believe the Department of Santation was the first on on site to start flushing body parts into the suage system (still checking that out). Working for one of the above mentioned companies?

I have also heard that AMEC has hired demolition experts, but I am uncertain if that includes CDI, and also the validity of that rumor, so I wouldn't dive into that here.

I'll bring sources to the table soon.


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