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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:21 pm    Post subject: Uncovered: The Rat's Nest of 9/11 Reply with quote

Some of the key players in the 9/11 coverup -but not them all.

Uncovered: The Rat's Nest of 9/11

In the CIA Internet Fakes, released 4th August, 2005, we outed
a host of websites --either controlled by the CIA/FBI/KGB/ETC,
or hopelessly compromised by willingly gushing out heaps of Intel-
designed 9/11 Tabloid Crud. Now as the Fake 9/11 Ops scale back
operations, we identify the people trying so hard to fool you.

Latest: Audio by Fintan Dunne
on this topic is now online.
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by Fintan Dunne, BreakForNews.com 28 January, 2006

How do you find a nest of rats? Well, you just follow one rat, and see if it
leads you back to the nest.

We are in search of lair of the rats who crawled out of the rubble of the
9/11 events. And we have our eye on a rather suspicious rat to follow.
He will lead us to some very interesting places along the way.

So, here goes. Step by step... and watch it build.

On the forum here I recently detailed the rather dubious former head of the
Russian Armed Forces, General Ivashov --who has recently turned into a
"9/11-Was-An-Inside-Job" cheerleader. The implausibility of that can be
seen in his disturbingly menacing eyes as well as his comments. Read it:

Russian General Exposing 9/11 is a KGB Fake!

I pointed out that many of the speakers and panelists who lined up with
General Ivashov at the Axis for Peace Conference held in Brussels
(home of the burgeoning EU Superstate) in November, 2005
( http://www.axisforpeace.net/rubrique27.html ) were a "Who's-Who"
of CIA Fakes. And many of them have appeared on the Alex Jones Show.

Hold on to that thought. And let's go looking for dots to connect up.

Alex Jones' Infowars.com is shadowing the analysis here on
BreakForNews.com in order to cover their asses. The Inforwars.com
rewrite of our article on Ivashov is grossly transparent:

First, Fintan Dunne 25th Jan, 2005:
"Say no to a "unipolar" global dictatorship by rushing willingly into the arms of a "multipolar" global dictatorship.
The good general's solution to the assault on free peoples everywhere.... is to enslave them under the auspices of a
United Nations controlled behind the scenes by exactly the same forces staging the War On Terror gambit."

And then, two days later on Infowars.com....

Paul Joseph Watson 27th Jan, 2005:
"As his solution to global dictatorship, Ivashov encourages the creation of a pseudo-world government,
run under UN auspices. In essence he is offering a Hobson's choice, a left-wing world government to counter the
advance of the right-wing world government."

But that Ivashov ripoff by Infowar's Watson is not the only time this has
happened recently.

On the 18th November, 2005 I produced a special feature audio on the
gambit to use Bush as a 'bad cop' to usher in a Hillary Clinton 'good cop'

DSL http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/InsideTrackNews051118c.mp3
56k http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/InsideTrackNews051118d.mp3

And guess what? Exactly four days later comes this on Infowars.com:

Paul Joseph Watson November 22 2005:
"From Battlestar Galactica to Commander in Chief, the cultural zeitgeist is promoting the notion
that the next President of the United States will be a woman."


Getting back to General Ivashov, one of his promoters has been Kurt Nimmo.
He gave an unabashed endorsement to Ivashov and 'CIA Fake' Andreas von Bulow:

Russian General: Nine Eleven a Globalist Inside Job
Sunday January 22nd 2006
Ivashov hits the nail square on the head. “The organizers of [the nine eleven] attacks were the political
and business circles interested in destabilizing the world order”..... As others have explained-most notably
Andreas von Bulow, Bundestag member of a parliamentary commission which oversaw the three branches of the
German secret service...."

And Nimmo has also promoted the work of Wayne Madsen, who popped
up in the middle of the 2004 stolen election controversy with a decoy tale
promising to disclose a $29 million votefraud payoff check to an alleged
Bush-linked offshore trust. The check never materialized.
( http://www.breakfornews.com/articles/MadsenVoteFraudTaleSpin.htm )

Anyhow Nimmo must be unaware of Madsen's "prior form", because he
ran this gem in January, 2006:

Madsen on the Impending Iran Attack
Monday January 02nd 2006, 10:14 pm http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=179

Oooops! Doesn't Nimmo recall Madsen's 2004 pre-election, decoy article
about another "Impending Iran Attack"? That time it was supposed
to happen to bolster Bush's reelection bid.

A Bush pre-election strike on Iran 'imminent'
By Wayne Madsen October 20, 2004

It never did, of course. Instead, Bush's "October Surprise" was no surprise.
He stole 2004 --just like he stole 2000. By means of vote fraud.
Big surprise, eh?

"Fool me once...." as they say.....

Madsen's a serial offender.

Now, as a matter of "by the way," if you take a careful look at Nimmo's
blog, you will notice that the posts are numbered sequentially. But you will
not find posts number 189 or 196.
( Try: http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=189 or http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=196 )

For good reason. The first was a post where early in January, 2006,
Nimmo claimed that due to "threats" he would no longer be updating his
blog --out of concern for his family's safety. The second missing post was
the one where a few days later --after an appearance on the Jack Blood
show ( http://www.jackblood.com ) -- and claimed email entreaties from
loyal fans, he would, after all, be posting again.

More than a mere publicity stunt, this was also a little fear-stoking PsyOp
in it's own right. But now that the deed is in the past, best to drop it all
down the memory hole eh? Thus the post deletions.


And those are not the only deletions. Careful followers of Mike Rivero's
WhatReallyHappened.com will recall that Rivero had posted a linked
report of the "threats" against Nimmo in his daily news blog.

But if you look now in Rivero's January Archive - there is no mention
of the original posting.
( http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/week_2006_01_08.html )

Now that's what friends are for eh? For covering you tracks.

Let's connect some more dots.

Rivero has also frequently appeared on Jack Blood's Show and on the
Alex Jones Show.

( By the way, also appearing as guests on Alex Jones' in the past have
been many of Ivashov's friends from the "Axis of Peace" event in
Brussels: Andreas von Buelow, Christopher Bollyn, Phil Berg, Thierry
Meyssan, Webster Tarpley and David Shayler. Not forgetting Michael
Meacher, who missed the Brussels gig. )

And Jack Blood just hosted the Alex Jones Show himself --as a stand-in
for Alex Jones.

Ummmm..... All nice and cozy. Tucked up together. So cute.

Not half as cute as Rivero's latest gambit though. It's the tip of an iceberg.
The rest follows.

He first posted an attack on Daryl Bradford Smith (who's he?) by Victor Thorn (oh, him) :

WhatReallyHappened.com Category: CURRENT EVENTS
Posted Jan 26, 2006 09:21 AM PST
Will the Real Daryl Bradford Smith Please Stand Up

Rivero Coments:
Normally I don't get involved in the rivalries that occur between the various personalities. However I feel
the need to correct a statement attributed to me in this article. I did not "dump" Jack Blood, or anyone else.
Both with Jack Blood, and with Alex Jones, I told them I could no longer guarantee a regular schedule of
call-ins owing to increasing time pressures from my "day job".

Now you don't need to know what this is all about. Believe me.

Moving quickly on.... the following day Rivero posts the rebuttal:

WhatReallyHappened.com Category: CURRENT EVENTS
Posted Jan 27, 2006 01:21 PM PST
Daryl Bradford Smith responds to Wing TV

Rivero Coments:
In the interests of fairness, I am linking to Daryl Bradford Smith's reply to the comments made in yesterday's article
by Wing TV. I wish to emphasize that I am not taking any sides in this debate. Indeed I wish the various personalities
involved in the truth movement would remember what we are all here to do, and that rivalries work for the benefit of
Bush and his associates. I don't like to get caught up in these factional disputes. However I did have to respond to a
statement erroneously attributed to me, and since I did link to that article it is only fair I provide the same courtesy
to this one.

Now the important sentence in that last comment by Rivero is:

"I wish the various personalities involved in the truth movement would
remember... that rivalries work for the benefit of Bush and his associates."

Which, ironically is the reason that Rivero is posting these mudslinging
tirades in the first place: because they benefit Bush and his associates.
In particular the associates in the CIA. ( I love the pretext for posting the
first attack and the veneer of sincerity in the second comment. Cute again. )

The important sentence in the first comment by Rivero is this:

I told them I could no longer guarantee a regular schedule of
call-ins owing to increasing time pressures from my "day job".

Which is becoming a theme of Rivero's.
Because the CIA are scaling down the Op.


Any plot/conspiracy is vulnerable at the weakest link(s).

And General Leonid Ivashow and Wayne Madsen are really weak links.

First the General: Now this guy plays well in the former Soviet Union.
No problem there. He rants about the Putin crew being NWO puppets,
and it surely goes down a bomb. Which it's meant to. Just like Alex Jones
equivalent is meant to sell well in this zone....

But whoever decided to begin to market him to the Western 9/11 skeptics
needs their heads examined. It take a big stretch in the imagination to
figure that a guy who looks like a Russian mafia don and used to head up
the Russian Army --fer chrissakes!-- could possibly be on our side.
( http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11 )

You don't get to head the Russian Armed Forces by being a beacon for
light and truth. That's a no-brainer. Imagine a former U.S. Chairman of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff cheering on a 9/11 truth meeting and that should
give you a picture of how likely Ivashov is to be one of the good guys!

So once you get suspicious about Ivashov, you get to wondering how and
why 9/11 luminaries are hanging out with him at that Brussels meeting.
( http://www.axisforpeace.net/rubrique27.html )

Now you got all them in your sights too and you're sniffing: Fake..?..

Next Madsen: Well when I burned him on the Democratic Underground
Forum in the middle of the post-2004-election-stealing hoopla, the
agency should have pulled him. No question. Somebody goofed bad.

The DU people took one look at my article:
( http://www.breakfornews.com/articles/MadsenVoteFraudTaleSpin.htm )

...and they went Whoaaa. "This guy is ex-NSA!" Then they read how his
story of a multi-million-dollar check to an offshore Bush trust fund being
used to steal the election was a red herring and they went Whoaaa again.

And finally, being as how they were reeling from the Bush "victory" and
trying to figure how they got screwed soooo bad..... when they read that
Madsen had helped to decoy them into expecting an October Surprise
attack on Iran --just days before the election (when Bush actually was
going to steal the vote like in 2000 ) they went Whoaaa for a third tiime.
( http://www.lebanonwire.com/0410/04102002LW.asp )

Then they went back to Whoaaa number 1, and they said "ex-NSA, Eh?"

And they dumped him faster than a pneumatic trash van empties bins.
I was there. I wrote the article. I saw him go down in flames.

But did the agency pull him? Nope. Dumb asses kept him at the station.

Now when you see Kurt Nimmo and the rest of the CIA Fakes linking to
his stuff and him still pawning off the same Iran Invasion shit that
got him canned before.... you're the one going Whoaaa.
( http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=179 )

And now between Madsen and Ivashov -you're wondering... WTF ???

And you're figuring that if Ivashov is hanging out with all these guys like
Andreas von Buelow, Christopher Bollyn, Phil Berg, Thierry Meyssan,
Webster Tarpley and David Shayler..... who've been on Alex Jones....

And if Nimmo is pushing Madsen's 'Iran Invasion' stuff AND Ivashov -both!
And he is tight with Jack Blood and Mike Rivero.... and Rivero is on Jack
Blood and Jack blood hosts the AJ show... and they all buy Hopsicker and
Keller... and AntiWar.com pushes the Iran Invasion stuff too... and Sibel
Edmonds is on Antiwar.com... and she agrees with Hopsicker about Atta &
Drugs... and ...... and... and round and round the clique it goes....

And suddenly you're on to it! The whole crew are CIA Fakes.

Like I say... the weakest links are always a problem.
Compounded in this case by Intel Brass ineptitude.

Ah well... their loss - our gain.


They are winding down the 9/11 CIA Fakes UnTruth Movement. Pressures
of the day job, you see. I jest. Actually, it because the gameplan has
always been to have blanket coverage until Bush got back in again, then
scale down so the issue fades away before Hillary arrives. Otherwise, she
might be under pressure to do something about the official "inquiry."

So now they are intensifying the staged mudslinging which they have been
using to determinedly destroy each others' credibility for the last two years.

From when the covert campaign began with Daniel Hopsicker outing John
Grey of 9/11 Truth as a tool of Adnan Khashoggi, all the way through the
Pod People Vs Rivero to the low grade mire of the Wing TV attack dogs, it
been an escalating and carefully planned campaign designed to reach a
climax now --as they prepare to retire to the "day jobs".

Nice to have you along for the ride ye sundry masses of 9/11 skeptics.

Hope you liked the tasty skirt thrown your way in the shape of Sibel
Edmonds and Amanda Keller. Hope you are by now totally confused and
disillusioned by this COINTELPRO-style tabloid 9/11 disinfo crew. You
should be. A lot of money and planning has gone into it all. The crime of
the century deserved a huge crew of CIA Fakes. We told you about that
last year.
( http://www.breakfornews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm )

Then there's the ever-so-conveniently-placed millionaire backer of the
9/11 Fakes Tour and other outreach mechanisms designed to establish
the street-cred and media-cred of the CIA Fakes. Jimmy Walter is a pivotal
figure, otherwise how could the agency possibly chanel the vast funds
needed to mount such a concerted campaign. Of course, when you think
about it, the presence of such as Walter is a dead giveaway in itself.

And let's not forget John Kerry's hard labor to throw a psychological spanner
in your works at the climactic moment. Followed by Bev Harris' public
implosion on the Randi Rhodes show to shatter the votefraud movement.

Most were so stunned by the Bush "win" that it's been downhill ever
since. That's the power of a well-executed Psychological Operation (PsyOp).
It knocks the stuffing out of political and social resistance --whether in a
military or civilian context. John Kerry was an essential part of ensuring
the 9/11 Op has eight clear Bush years for the full coverup to run it's course.
( http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/03/what-have-john-kerry-and-giuliana.html )

Then, just as icing on the cake --Katrina just about finished you off.

Time to go back to sleep now. 9/11 was just a bad dream. It never
really happened. It was just a mirage.

You are meant to forget that around three thousand people lost their lives,
along with another 100,000 dead in Iraq and Afghanistan --enabled by
that seminal PsyOp on September 11th, 2001.

What about Justice, you say? They don't need no stinkin' Justice.

They are off to a well deserved sleep, bellies swollen from gnawing on the
detritus of the Internet trailer park. From website to website they have
cross-promoted each other while spinning the fabric of subtle half-truths
and deceptions.

Trace the hyperlinks. Round and round they go. Always keeping it
in the clique. You link to me and I link to you. And he links to us.
And we link to him. Then you guest on my show and I guest on yours.
Now you attack him and I attack her. And what comes around goes
around, as round and round we go.

That's how you find a nest of rats. You follow one rat, and it leads you
back to the rest. Every time. There is a cast of characters. An "in" crowd.
You can trace the incestuous links between them for yourself with a little
net research.

Their task is not to squelch the 9/11 issue. But to populate it with the "in"
crowd --while promoting the confused, conflicting, designer-conspiracy,
tabloid-laden "Orgy of Evidence" planted into the events by the CIA.
9/11 Minority Report : 'An Orgy Of Evidence'
Why the 9/11 Movement was created and fostered
by the very people who carried out the attacks...

And when they are finished being "in," they take themselves out.

See them all. So cute. So nicely snuggled together in their cosy nest:

General Ivashov, Alex Jones, Paul Joseph Watson, Kurt Nimmo, Andreas von Buelow,
Wayne Madsen, Jack Blood, Mike Rivero, Christopher Bollyn, Phil Berg, Thierry Meyssan,
Webster Tarpley, David Shayler, Michael Meacher, Daryl Bradford Smith, Victor Thorn,
Daniel Hopsicker, Phil Jayhan, Sibel Edmonds, Amanda Keller, Karl Shwarz, Jeff Rense,
Nico Haupt, Jim Marrs, John Kaminski, Bev Harris, Mike Ruppert, Michel Chossudovsky,
and the guy with the bucks to front for the CIA's 9/11 Fakes Tour - Jimmy Walter....

I could go on, but I sense that --like an audience at the end of a movie,
some of you are reluctant to stay to see the full credits roll up the screen
to name all the players and behind-the-scenes staff.

Yes, it was all a scripted Wag the Dog movie. One we first began to write
about in the weeks after the events of 9/11.
( Wag The WTC II : The Blockbuster http://breakfornews.com/wag/the_blockbuster.htm )

But don't leave. Something new is about to happen. You're going to
enjoy this more.

The celluloid actors are departing. But now comes the exciting bit. Now the
audience are about to take to the stage themselves. There's a play about
to begin. It's audience participation to the max. You will be the new actors.
Real flesh and blood ones.

It's about something bigger than Justice. It's about Truth.
It's about Freedom.

And this time, there's no script.

In fact, it's entirely up to you.

Latest: Audio by Fintan Dunne
on this topic is now online.
DSL mp3: Listen or 56K mp3 Listen


Author's Notes: If you want to really know the truth of 9/11,
those hyperlinks in this article are not there just for decoration.
Check them out! Plus here's some more informative reading:

Our Good Friends in the CIA - NOT !

Giving Conspiracy Theory a Bad Name

Mickey Atta and the Big McWhoppers

Alex Jones, Hopsicker & the 9/11 CIA Fakes

True Lies of 9/11: Amanda & Atta

Disinfo: The Iran Invasion Drivel

Good Cops, Bad Cops and the Stolen Election

The CIA, The Left & Tabloid 9/11

Ellsberg, Sibel Edmonds & The Secret Team

'Two Hardware Stores' as 9/11 Goes 'Nuts'

Ops in Disarray Over London Bombs Probe

Cynthia's Big LIHOP Day Out

Mainstream Ridicules Visor Terror Drill Hype

Alex Jones is Wrong on London Terror Drill

9/11 : The Aliens Did It !

Gannon and the Inevitable Downfall of Rove

Seymour Hersh and the Mythical 'Strike on Iran'

What Have John Kerry and Giuliana Sgrena Got in Common?

This article is not an entire, comprehensive listing of the participants
in the 9/11 coverup, but it's another perspective to add to our previous
'CIA Internet Fakes' analysis, and our investigative articles on
See Also: http://breakfornews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm
Fintan Dunne 28th January, 2006

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:08 pm    Post subject: Rat-tards Reply with quote


Just f*cking brilliant!

You may say your operation is too small to really be making a difference, but I can't help but think the 'return to the day job' resignation of the fake mouthpieces has been hastened by your bullshi*t slicing analysis.

It's obvious from the constant plagiarizing, that they read everything you write. I think you took the fun right out of it for those boys (and girls). They must hate getting burned at their own games. I'm glad you're on our team - between you and McGowan, we've got a lock on cynical jocularity and brainy metaphorical hyperbole.

They are off to a well deserved sleep, bellies swollen from gnawing on the detritus of the Internet trailer park.

Lol! Well played throughout; from publishing 'Wag the WTC' & 'The Blockbuster' - to patiently sitting there interviewing b-movie characters you already knew to be intel rats, to ripping the mask off of all of them at once, and finally watching chew on each other as they slink away and disappear into the cracks.

That was over 100 WEBSITES folks! I've been looking, believe me, for some really good retort from ANY of them - some sort of counter argument other than, "I know you are, but what am I?", or "Fintan obviously got his nose from the Mossad!" It was like kindergarten. They exposed themselves by their reactions - most tellingly by refusing to react or even acknowledge.

'Just too ridiculous to warrant a response' usually means right on.

Yeah, I'll tell you who is secretly funding Break for News ... ME! Me, and all the other subscribers and neemwellers who actually do have real life 'day jobs'. The people whose life and labor goes into the tax dollars that are spent removing limbs from Iraqi children.

I think you deserve to pat yourself on the shoulder, Fintan, then please continue looking over it.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter whether Fintan is 'right' or 'wrong' - he's presenting facts. Sure, he's drawn the obvious conclusion, but the data is all right there. Take a step back, people, and look at it for yourself - examine the facts, and make your own conclusion. Don't hesitate to question Fintan's research, double check it, and raise your voice should you arrive at different conclusions. But leave his nose out of it. Smile

My own personal research led me here, not anybody's opinion, and certainly not a link from infowars or whatwewantyoutothinkreallyhappened.com. I came for the facts, but I stayed for the fun... and the forum and hopefully, the friendship of others also traumatized into awareness.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: 911 Reply with quote

Hi Fintan


so glad you noticed

i had the distinct feeling i was being
blackballed by the 911 truth movement
the day Simon Aranovitz [you missed him...!]
did his 'truth radio' show...


i am aware my own pages do refer in part to some of these fools
but some of the words make sense even if the people don't
[if you see what i mean]

as an interesting process in questioning reality

i spent a while chatting on skype to various members
Nico Haupt & Phil Jayhan...Simon A

who were seemingly more interested in making big
bucks from a movie or merchandising
[of course all about expanding consciousness
& awareness of 911 dude!]

or in the case of Simon A
were busy being a personal assistant to
that Jimmy Walters fellah...



i saw through the viral marketing
the way to concretize the

'911 myth' as conspiracy plot
a new vietnam movie

hamburger hill

apocalypse now


remember aileen wournous?

same deal

thanks for your work F

hows kathy?

ope u r ok
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:06 pm    Post subject: re Madsen Reply with quote

i had an e-mail exchange and was
regularly communicating with wayne

during the london bombings

he was desperate for info


as a test i tried a fake story on him

saying that an area of london
was well known to be fascist

i knew it wasn't

he printed it verbatum

and received an e-mail, which he fwd-ed
questioning my integrity

ex FBI muckraker was my first impression

i guess i want to see the best in people...
his fellowship peice was quite interesting... too

but i think you've a good point

its an op...alright
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:10 pm    Post subject: wm Reply with quote

just remembered Wayne Madsen
had a death threat last year sometime

all over the net

exactly the same op isn't it...

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:22 pm    Post subject: death threats Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC Rumsfeld is not happy... Confused


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"just remembered Wayne Madsen had a death threat last year sometime
all over the net.... exactly the same op isn't it... "

Yeah CaptW.... the ol' death threat publicity stunt fear op psyop slop.

Didn't know Simon A was a personal assistant to Jimmy Walter...

Small world eh? Confused

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Your analysis is excellent" --Alex Jones to Fintan Dunne

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: clarification Reply with quote

Simon A worked in the capacity of
PAID Personal assistant to Jimmy Walters
for the UK shows

he told me...he wasn't too happy
with the way Jimmy had to
'personally approve' EVERYTHING

colours & exact wording for the posters
the billing - who appears [and any last minute changes]
media advertising - filming the event

every single detail was a George SOROS like operation

when i tried to suggest that it would be better to
just get Jimmy Walters to be a beneficiary
to a more independent bunch of self determined
groups...that each would maintain their own characteristic

I was basically told the 'Jimmy wouldn't like it' Mantra
Walters has a wedge of funds and thus control
They were all like flies round shit

to be fair to Nico Haupt
he also had problems with

we both mistrust his walden 3 philosophy
based on BF Skinners Huxley-esque
Neo futurist behaviorist utopian techno-society

something which actually led me to the conclusion that
911 was part of something MUCH bigger

the instigation of such a global SMART society
[think 'minority report'] which is being brought about
in exactly the same way that Sir Christopher Wren
came to build so many cathedrals in London after that not
so accidental fire in 1666

My problem with Nico Haupt is his cliquey approach
there is no information loop

Like myself [capt wardrobe] -
Killtown and others were often
left out of the loop
when things started to develop
in the London Bombing

I personally found chatting with these
people [not often]
very interesting - to see how they
all treated it like a school club
always trying to out do each other with
new ideas for flash movies or 'pod'
LIHOP / MIHOP / CCTV theories

all the best
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:49 pm    Post subject: Problem's with Nico Reply with quote


My first problem with Nico is that he personally invented and established
the MIHOP/LIHOP division in the 9/11 movement. In other words he
polarized the wide range of existing views into two opposing camps.
(Divide and Conquer...)

My next problem is that through his 9/11 Skeptics blog he had a guiding
hand on the info flow.

Yes, he had problems with Jimmy Walter.... esp. when he was thrown out
of a 9/11 event in NYC by Jimmy's security people. Excuse me for being
a cynical, albeit seasoned observer, but that was a little too staged for me.

I could go on... and on...

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capt w

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: yep Reply with quote

yep i'll buy that for a dollar!

i remember the MIHOP LIHOP
times very well

just for the record - as it were
i don't feel the need to bail anyone
out on these issues

Latest: BBC News 24 weather reports a
cold front

what is going on?


he he


gotta laugh haven't ya

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