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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well this didn't take very long to play out. GOP accusing the White House of withholding information on Ft Hood.

How completely crazy is this thing?

Top Republican says White House hiding info on Fort Hood

Well they said hiding Laughing Freaking Nut jobs.
Looks like PC Spin is the new angle of easing the pain of airing dirty laundry in public.

The ranking Republican on the House intelligence committee on Tuesday night accused the White House of withholding information on the Fort Hood attack.

Rep. Pete Hoekstra (Mich.) said administration officials delayed briefing members of Congress about the alleged gunman, raising "red flags" about what the White House was hiding.

"When they withhold information, you always start asking questions," Hoekstra told Fox News. "That's what raises red flags. What do they know that they don't want us to know?"

Hoekstra linked President Barack Obama's handling of Fort Hood to a chain of other GOP criticisms of the president, including the administration's treatment of detainees and an investigation into possible CIA abuse.

Lions, Tigers, and Bears OH MY Laughing

"It is a political correctness that is making it unable for us to identify the real threat of homegrown terrorism," he alleged.

Hoekstra warned that "we have similar Hasans" in the country. The Michigan Republican has called for his committee to investigate the incident. Chairman Silvestre Reyes (D-Texas) has so far declined, preferring to wait for the conclusion of the joint FBI-Army investigation.

I wonder if the World has similar Ted Bundy's about, or Jeffrey Dahmer's under anyone's nose. How about crazy High School students with .223 Bushmasters and home made bombs?

These Fucks are pissing on us with their arrogant IGNORANCE.

They are now calling this Chap a Lazy worker and a poor student: Question: How the hell did he get straight A's and membership to the Deans list? Achieved a Doctorate. Get Fucking real for once in your miserable life already.

This Military RAH RAH Club must be one exclusive WHITE club, chock full of a bunch of dumbass Robots. Why would they be afraid of a Lazy Muslim Shrink? Laughing Laughing Why not acknowledge the retired BLACK COP who put Hasan down?

Still nobody outside of retired Military has the balls to ask WHY no one jumped the guy when he reloaded. Easily the biggest red flag of all!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: There is some doubt Reply with quote

According to this story: http://www.roanoke.com/new/roanoke/wb/225422
in spite of (as noted by Hombre) his impeccable academic record, professors cannot recall this student. There are many science students who are quiet, but that doesn't mean profs don't get to know them. These are not breeze-shooting classes where assertive personalties rule the day (as most people are familiar with in the courses called "gut" that get you through college). So to believe that this summa cum laude graduate who was an honor student (Advanced Placement - i.e. college level - in high school) from his earliest years made no impression argues that there must be a reason for that. Given that he lived in the Intelligence Nest of the US one possible explanation is that his transcripts were hacked up to take him into something funny from his enlisted man days (a la Oswald). But while this may be true, it does not have to be true. Perhaps he is just being disowned by people. Anyway, this article is so loaded with information that it seems to have been put together by someone other than a total troll, some energetic type. Maybe.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:59 am    Post subject: PS Reply with quote

With regard to the above reference to the article: do not imagine that the US is a monolith. You can count on infighting in getting out a message, so that the message itself morphs over time.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: PS Reply with quote

musings wrote:
With regard to the above reference to the article: do not imagine that the US is a monolith. You can count on infighting in getting out a message, so that the message itself morphs over time.

Yes, and that parallels a theme I was going to do in a separate thread post - that sometimes we tend to see everything "conspiratorial" as part of an overriding NWO agenda.

There are small (and large) battles still fought, e.g., along ideological lines. Sometimes those are independent of a puppet masters' oversight, and sometimes they are allowed or even augmented by the PTB, because they further the intended global agenda. One 'version' of 9/11 fits nicely into that - the 'first level' of that onion reveals evil Neocons with advance knowledge 'allowing' the attacks to succeed. Nowadays, when I encounter an entrenched Liberal friend who never before bought 9/11 as an inside job, they have often reached this first level. "I have no problem believing Bush had something to do with it" is often the sentiment.

With the massive number of globalism-based benefits derived, it's obvious that 9/11 was way bigger than 'an angry moment by PNAC' and/or the disgruntled military-intel network that we had with the JFK hit. There, I believe, was almost a purely ideologically driven op - even though, it's resulting war expansion was certainly in harmony with the NWO's eventual plans - to use the mighty US military to help bulldoze non-Western friendly markets in the Middle East. Perhaps a case of "do what you need to do, we'll stay out of the way." (Now where have I heard that before... oh yeah, spoken by the State Dept to Saddam right after he found out the Kuwaiti's were slant-drilling into his oils fields.)

This "shocking NEW (lol) imperialistic American aggression" is simply the tool used to level the playing field. And the shrewdest use of the US military will be for it to be stretched as thin as possible, and "used up" in the process. Then broken down, both externally (attrition) and internally (scandals, "political correctness run amok", etc), so that it's power and resources can be successfully assimilated into the coming Global Army (picture NATO on steroids). Very similar to how the US political system is VERY obviously being broken down as well, as every Alex Jones or Aaron Russo "underground" film has so clearly detailed, that "the two parties are street gangs owned by the same people." Well, Duh. But this is an important component of the overall scheme - the economy must collapse, and the people must be convinced that they have been supporting a broken political setup, and it's time for more (total) global oversight.

So, getting back to intel ops - in my book (which will never be published), smaller-time hits and ops go on all the time, and the global PTB stay away unless someone oversteps a boundary of some sort. But I would also assume that anyone in a sufficient position of power would know ahead of time what is considered a bad move and what is considered "making your bone." That kind of foresight is how you get into a "position of power." Cool

Just thinkin' out loud again....
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: 'Way bigger than an angry moment was 9/11 Reply with quote

I just picked up a slightly aged Business Week in my dentist's office. The story which drew me was about how the oil companies are moving back into Iraq, agreeing to what had seemed just months ago to be an overly self-interested deal from the Iraqi government (which is like an Indian tribe dealing with the casino-building Mafia, and deciding they want 1% more of a cut). The idea is that they want to undermine OPEC and the Saudis (how Godfather can you get). The rest of the Business Weeks were about wary consumers fearing to run up their credit cards (thus inconveniencing the retailers, who have to come up with two-hour sales during the Super Bowl to draw in the impulsive), about the possible failure of the dollar, and about the implosion of the commercial real estate market (not because it is falling "naturally" but because the terms of financing are being recast to bring about the collapse). All very heady stuff.

So I guess those who benefit from their oil interests (like Peter Galbraith in Kurdish Iraq, who designed their deal with Baghdad to benefit his own interests) may be very happy indeed that there was a 9/11 to get their foot in the door. The conspiracy does not have to have been huge to start it. Most people were not in on the original deal. But they do not want to know who did it, because they are getting too much out of it.

If Galbraith plays his cards right and cuts the right people in on his coup, then he'll be able to keep what's left in his poke.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so its Webster Tarpley?

Doesn't mean we shouldn't read it........

Obvious question - Did Hasan think it was a drill like everyone else - or was he part of the drill??

Have a gander at this... http://actindependent.org/HasanPatsy.pdf

Major Hasan Of Fort Hood A Patsy In A Drill Gone Live?
by Webster G. Tarpley Sunday, Nov. 15, 2009 at 5:07 AM

In the wake of the massacre at Fort Hood Texas , two principal theories have emerged to explain the conduct of the accused shooter, identified by the U.S. Army as Major Nidal Malik Hasan, an Army psychiatrist of Jordanian-Palestinian ancestry.
One of these theories is embraced by left liberals and other supporters and acolytes of the Obama regime, and argues that Major Hasan is a sincere and devout Muslim who was the victim of a tragic contradiction between his religious faith and the logic of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, both the heritage of the odious Bush-Cheney regime. According to this version, Hasan must be viewed as a troubled and tormented individual who snapped, breaking down psychologically under the stress of his awful predicament. Here is how Obama summed up this approach: Even within the extraordinary military that we have and I think everybody understands how outstanding the young men and women in uniform are under the most severe stress there are going to be instances in which an individual cracks. (New York Times, 10 Nov and ember 2009) Calling Major Hasan a terrorist amounts, in this view, to racism and vindictive prejudice.
The other theory is the one advocated by assorted neocons, reactionaries, Islamophobes and others generally hostile to Obama. This account maintains that Major Hasan was a homegrown, self-starting Islamic terrorist, trumpeting his devotion to jihad and suicide bombing, seeking to make contact with Al Qaeda, and generally filled with hate for America , for freedom, and for his fellow soldiers. In this view, it is only the pervasive political correctness and multicultural obsession of the subversive-riddled and soft on terrorism Obama regime that prevented Major Hasan from being neutralized before he could act, and which prevents Obama and his Democratic allies from telling the truth after the fact.
These views are both superficial, nave, and inadequate.[1] They amount to two prongs of an articulated campaign of media hysteria and mass manipulation designed on the one hand to prod the dithering Wall Street puppet Obama who is having second thoughts about his own political survival into an early decision in favor of massive escalation of the war in Afghanistan for the purpose of hastening the breakup of Pakistan, and thus threatening China. On the other hand, the delirium of Islamophobic hatred being ginned up against Major Hasan by the usual cast of reactionary radio ogres (Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Levin) seeks to accentuate and strengthen the racist and xenophobic elements in the militant anti-Obama opposition, in particular among the Tea Party movement. The decision to put the infamous Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his confreres on trail in New York City, plus the recent government seizure of numerous US mosques and other buildings on the grounds that they are Iranian assets, also contribute to a growing mood of anti-Moslem hysteria. This atmosphere is accentuated by the reckless and irresponsible actions of some Moslem groups which happen to be foundation-funded, and must thus be considered as part of the apparatus of US domestic social control.
The media narrative which is now being consolidated a week after the shootings is full of contradictions, embarrassed silences, and absurdities. A third and distinct approach to this case is therefore required, one which regards Major Hasan as a manipulated patsy in the context of a relatively sophisticated operation mounted by forces within the US intelligence community, using methods and assets which by now ought to have become familiar. Major Hasan can be seen as a mixture of Lee Harvey Oswald, legendary 9/11 suicide pilot Mohammed Atta, and Cho Seung-Hui (the alleged April 2007 Virginia Tech shooter). He also has elements of reputed Robert Kennedy assassin Sirhan Sirhan, and of John Hinckley Jr., who was involved in an attempt to kill President Reagan both of whom survived the operations in which they were implicated. He thus represents a new cocktail of patsy ingredients. Until now, Islamic terrorists had come in collectivist groups, and not alone. Major Hasan by contrast is a troubled loner in the tradition of Oswald, at the same time that he embodies the religious fanaticism of Atta, along with some of his peccadilloes. Major Hasan is that novelty, a troubled Islamic fundamentalist loner, even though this is something of a contradiction in terms. Like Cho, Major Hasan emerges from the psychiatric clinic, in his case as a practicing psychiatrist, but as a shrink with egregious symptoms of his own. Like all patsies, Major Hasan combines the flamboyant and bombastic proclamation of his personal creed with a seeming immunity from bureaucratic countermeasures which would normally be automatic in shutting him down. Hasan is revealed as a fanatic, a misfit, and a quasi-psychotic or psychotic mental case in his own right who could not subsist without protectors in high places of the US intelligence community.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


The Beautiful Truth Show - 16th November, 2009

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Radical imam Anwar al-Aulaqi:
Fort Hood gunman Nidal Hasan 'trusted' me,
but I didn't spark rampage


Monday, November 16th 2009, 10:12 AM

A radical Yemeni cleric who helped turn the Fort Hood gunman into a devout Muslim said he played no role in Maj. Nidal Hasan's bloody rampage.

Imam Anwar al-Aulaqi said Hasan "trusted" him and that the two developed an e-mail correspondence, according to an account in the Washington Post Monday.

But al-Aulaqi said he neither pressured nor ordered Hasan to carry out the Nov. 5 attack at the Texas Army base, where he allegedly killed 13 people in a barrage of bullets.

Yet he called Hasan a "hero" and said of the attack, "I blessed the act because it was against a military target. And the soldiers who were killed were not normal soldiers, but those who were trained and prepared to go to Afghanistan and Iraq."

The American-born cleric, said to be in his late 30s, made the fiery statements in an interview with a Yemeni journalist, portions of which were published in the Washington Post.

Al-Aulaqi said he thought he played a role in transforming Hasan into a devout Muslim eight years ago, when the Army psychiatrist listened to his lectures at the Dar al-Hijra mosque in Northern Virginia. The two corresponded in a dozen or so emails over the past year, he said.

U.S. intelligence agencies intercepted some of the emails but the FBI concluded they posed no danger and did not launch an investigation.

"The bullets of the fighters of Afghanistan and Iraq are a reflection of the feelings of the Muslims towards America," al-Aulaqi wrote on his website on Dec. 23, 2008, days after he said Hasan first e-mailed him, according to the NEFA Foundation, a private South Carolina group that monitors extremist Web sites.

Print, video and audio files of the radical imam's words reportedly have been found on computers of terrorism suspects in the U.S. in 2007 and 2008 and in Canada in 2006.

The cleric refused to be interviewed by an American journalist, but told his story to Yemeni journalist Hider Shaea, who shared it with the Washington Post.

Shaea said he was allowed to review the e-mails between Hasan and al-Aulaqi, but did not provide them to The Post.

The thick-bearded al-Aulaqi, who was born in New Mexico, served as an imam at two mosques attended by three of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers, Virginia's Dar al-Hijra and another in California.

U.S. officials have accused him of working with al-Qaeda networks in the Persian Gulf after leaving Northern Virginia. In mid-2006, he was detained in Yemen, his ancestral homeland, at the request of U.S. authorities. He was released in December 2007.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm about 15:00 through,
this is a great audio so far guys.

Quite the circus...

Hasan and the Mystery Teen

Nidal Hasan Had Light Patient Workload Versus Other Docs

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the audio, Fintan, I appreciate you keeping the multiple shooters scenario alive. It has totally dropped out of the news here. Sad to say there is little doubt this is another orchestrated event designed to stir up racial unrest...their favorite game. Glad you see what I see and are willing to ask the obvious questions.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting observation. Always amazing how some try to convince others that they didn't really witness what they thought that they did.

I pity the ass who tries that line of bullshit on me.

Many are at the breaking point, enough is enough already.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another military-intel mass murder psych op conducted on government - not private - property. Same as columbine, va tech, etc.

Another mass murder by the masters (aka "the elite") to manipulate/control the minds of the slaves (aka "tax-slavers", "the masses", etc).

How long can it continue?

That is the $64 trillion question!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oddly, I wonder if it is of any significance that Virginia Tech is once again one of the common threads between these, in recent years, mass murders. Also makes you wonder how they will deal with this guy. Keeping your eye on what happens to him now or what he "says" is a key point. Hombre, WELL said, I agree completely.
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