Audio: THE QUANTUM MIRROR Part 1: Here Comes Everybody!

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Jimbo
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I tried to get a Neal Adam's discussion going on my usual forum and was mostly shot down by my for the most part intelligent fellow board members. I said how awed I was and posted links to Adam's amazing videos and a number of them responded by saying how could a mere comic book illustrator be smarter than so many real scientists and that science has spoken and that plate tectonics are it. Now, I am not a science guy by any stretch but I found Adam's ideas of the expanding earth mind blowing, to tell the truth. I couldn't wait to tell my online friends and now they think I'm nuts.

Maybe it is me (and Fintan). Do any of you have an opinion about Adam's work?
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Well, tell 'em this is not a theory developed by Neal Adams.
It was pioneered by Australia's most famous geologist Samuel Warren
Carey
, and colleagues in the middle of the last century. It was the
subject of a scientific battle back then --which Carey et. al. lost.
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Despite the eventual acceptance of the plate expansion and subduction
paradigm over Carey's theory, he is widely regarded as making
substantial contributions to the field of tectonics and considerable
influence in the initial acceptance of continental drift over a static model.

In 1946, he became the founding professor of geology at the University
of Tasmania. He retired from this position 30 years later in 1976. In the
Australia Day Honours list of 1977, Carey was awarded the Officer of the
Order of Australia for his services to the field of geology. He, and a small
number of other researchers, continued to support and investigate
expanding earth models.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Warren_Carey
All this was before the era of computer anination, and if Carey
had access to that technology to depict his theory, he would have won
that debate. Neal Adams has served us all very well by rendering the
3D graphics, which are compelling.

In trying to get through to people about this the only thing I can suggest
is to refuse to let them evade the way the continents clearly fit together
on a smaller Earth. That's the bottom line on this. So how do THEY explain
that undeniable fact --which clearly applies to the Earth, the Moon
and Mars.

The onus is on them to explain how Earth's broken pieces of
continental crockery can be glued back together into a perfect Vase
by shrinking the planet! Their willful blindness to unambiguous, visible
3D facts is their problem, not yours.

Here's a website which goes into the issue in full detail:
Here's another site:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/6520/

Here's a site with an Online version of Carey's book on this:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/ ... 8098/3.htm

Here's more Expanding Earth links & resources:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/ ... 8098/2.htm

If any of these sites don't come up because of Geocities traffic limits,then
paste the URL into Google and view the Google cache version instead


This audio is about more than just Expanding Earth - which I mentioned
only in passing, and I've set up a discussion thread for it in the Understanding
Our Reality
section of the forum HERE. But your experience does show
something very interesting.

That is:
people will deny the evidence of their own eyes if the authority figures
on whom they have a dependency relationship tell them it's not there!
Minds are like parachutes.
They only function when open.
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maybe thing were different back then



http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... s-fly.html

Giant Pterosaurs Couldn't Fly, Study Suggests
Tony McNicol in Tokyo
for National Geographic News
April 28, 2009

Giant pterosaurs, colossal winged reptiles that lived alongside the dinosaurs, have long been considered the heaviest animals ever to take to the skies.

But new research suggests that the notion of giant pterosaurs soaring over Earth simply doesn't fly.




Based on the weights and body sizes of modern birds, a new study finds that animals heavier than 90 pounds (41 kilograms) with wingspans greater than 16.7 feet (5.1 meters) wouldn't be able to flap fast enough to stay aloft.

The conclusion casts serious doubt on the flying ability of large pterosaurs such as Quetzalcoatlus, thought to be one of the largest airborne animals of all time.

The late-Cretaceous creature may have weighed up to 551 pounds (250 kilograms) and had up to a 34.1-foot (10.4-meter) wingspan—nearly as wide as a schoolbus is long.

"I think that the giant pterosaurs could not stay aloft in an environment similar to the present," said study leader Katsufumi Sato, an associate professor at the University of Tokyo's Ocean Research Institute.

Even if they could stay up, the bulky beasts would have had trouble getting off the ground in the first place, Sato said.

"Takeoff is the hardest task. I suppose they could not take off using only muscular efforts."

Setting Limits

Sato, who is also a National Geographic Society emerging explorer, journeyed to the southern Indian Ocean to study the world's largest bird, the wandering albatross, and four smaller bird species. (The National Geographic Society owns National Geographic News.)

All five species are considered to be soaring birds—flyers that use a strategy of gliding punctuated by sporadic flapping, as pterosaurs are generally thought to have flown.

The researcher outfitted 26 birds with tiny accelerometers, which collected data on their flapping speeds from takeoff to landing.

Comparing the data across species, Sato found that the flapping speeds required for a bird to take off and then stay cruising are linked to its body size.





He and his team calculate that 22 pounds (10 kilograms)—the weight of a large wandering albatross—is the "pragmatic limit" for safe and sustainable flight in variable wind conditions.

Sato's findings, appearing tomorrow in the journal PLoS ONE, also suggest that, in theory, a soaring flyer can weigh no more than 90 pounds (41 kilograms) with a wingspan no wider than 16.7 feet (5.1 meters).

Swimming Pterosaurs?

Other scientists are not quite convinced that Sato's research means large pterosaurs couldn't get airborne.

"One possibility is that Sato's findings don't really apply to pterosaurs or even to all birds," suggested Davin Unwin, a paleobiologist at the University of Leicester in the U.K.

For example, Argentavis, a giant bird thought to have existed six million years ago, had a wingspan of 20 feet (6 meters) and seems to have been able to fly, Unwin said.

What's more, Unwin said, giant pterosaur fossils all seem to have extraordinarily thin bone walls, which could mean the animals were lighter than their size would suggest.

Makoto Manabe, a senior scientist at the National Museum of Nature and Science in Tokyo, also thinks it's possible that pterosaurs were simply lighter than we currently think.

Or, if pterosaurs couldn't fly, Manabe wonders whether they might have been swimmers, "using their wings as fins like penguins."

"Having said that," he added, "their wings do not look very efficient at swimming."

According to study leader Sato, it's possible heavy pterosaurs overcame their difficulties during takeoff by launching themselves from high places such as trees or cliffs.

But if pterosaurs really were capable of sustained flight, "we must think about the possibility of drastic change in other environmental factors, such as much lighter gravity or much denser air over geological time," he said.

Biggest Critic

In general, Sato thinks the reactions from paleontologists have been "not so negative," despite the fact that his conclusions would bring huge pterosaurs abruptly down to Earth.

He is expecting his biggest critic to be much closer to home.

"My six-year-old son, Takuto, is a dinosaur freak," he said, "and will never agree with my findings."
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Fecking Great!!
only jus got to listen to in full.
very exciting stuff and perfect timing too. :wink:

viral truth inevitable mass infection revelation

I kid u not i'd been listening to falling down repeatedly
in the last year, some other great songs on that album
too (DIG OUT YOUR SOUL)

i think its time to finally read finnegans wake too
since i attended three irish wakes in the month of april.

Synchronicitiy! Hell yeh! keeps bashing me around recently,
u get use to it after a while tho.
I can see through you.
Some people see you.
To me you're just see-thru
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LelaBear wrote:
Among many of the things this program has me thinking about is the distiction between the terms "immortal" and "eternal".
Eternity is a place and immortality is a state of being.
The grand design, reflected in the face of Chaos.
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Jimbo wrote:I tried to get a Neal Adam's discussion going on my usual forum and was mostly shot down by my for the most part intelligent fellow board members. I said how awed I was and posted links to Adam's amazing videos and a number of them responded by saying how could a mere comic book illustrator be smarter than so many real scientists and that science has spoken and that plate tectonics are it. Now, I am not a science guy by any stretch but I found Adam's ideas of the expanding earth mind blowing, to tell the truth. I couldn't wait to tell my online friends and now they think I'm nuts.

Maybe it is me (and Fintan). Do any of you have an opinion about Adam's work?
I hear ya. Ditto for me.
The grand design, reflected in the face of Chaos.
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I was inspired to make a new video based on Fintan's newest treeincarnation audio release, called Here Comes Everybody. I noticed it is on the front page now, but I am also going to post it here for your consideration.
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Also wanted to share the interview segment with John Lennon and Yoko Ono commenting on the myth of overpopulation:
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For those who are interested, here is a link to the Red Ice Creations inteview with Neal Kramer which I have used in previous videos to correlate Fintan's research:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/20 ... 080904.php
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The Video is Xclnt!

And in response to listener request, here is the full
8min. version of the new Theme Music for the
Quantum Mirror series on TreeIncarNation.com

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http://breakfornews.com/audio/Fragma-To ... NRemix.mp3
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Great to have the music track, Fintan. I'll put it to good use...I'm sure I could pull another video out of your latest release, so many juicy topics to explore. Sure was fun to do that one, thanks for the inspiration!
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Great video lela. That line by Lennon is classic as well..."Oh I don't care"

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Experience subtends the trinity of existence. Observation, realization and integration. The first requires awareness, the second, will and the third, intelligence.
The mirror plane? The symmetry that our bodies demonstrate as manifestation of the universal principle of balance? Just another example of the polarization of our energy and ourselves and how we must bring the opposites into the center such that their potential is realized and their possibilities are condensed.
Mind over matter? The supremacy of intelligence over all other forms of organization.
The next and last level, the source, our source.
The grand design, reflected in the face of Chaos.
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