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je-demande wrote:
Fintan wrote: I don't buy the crisis actors idea
...

I think saying either everyone or no-one is a crisis actor is a bit of a stretch.

I mean are you saying they don't use actors in these drills one of which took reportedly took place two days before the shootings?

"What we do know is TWO days before the shooting in Las Vegas, a mass casualty military exercise involving nearly identical numbers of patients took place".

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.c ... -mass.html
This guy seems to have a superficial gun shot wound as seen in this vid at about :55 seconds.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz7H075dhpc[/youtube]

Fintan and Kathy, I still support the multiple shooter angle as is really obvious in this vid:

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e88_1507253728

listen closely starting at the 2:00 minute mark.

Also I still think that 1 shooter was located around the right side of the stage as pointed out by several of the concert crowd in a couple of the cell phone vids. I want folks to go back to the 1st vid I posted and look at the smoke cloud as it rises from behind the sign, it is not from cooking, it appears at the same time as the shooting starts from the left/fence side of the sidewalk! What is also confirmed is that most of the injured where located on the left side of the stage as discussed in the police scanner audio here:

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=378_1506956902

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hawkwind wrote: This guy seems to have a superficial gun shot wound as seen in this vid at about :55 seconds. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz7H075dhpc[/youtube]
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Ok here's my thing...

If there's lots of rounds flying about then theres gonna be ricochets. Getting hit with a ricochet and getting a minor wound and some concussion would be kinda normal in the circumstances.

But if 500 odd were injured and 59 Killed from such a distance Its painfully clear Paddock wasn't using a 177 Gas Gun consistant with the wound the Mighty (ffs don't cut or wreck my hair) Thor is shrugging off.

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hawkwind wrote:Fintan and Kathy, I still support the multiple shooter angle as is really obvious in this vid:

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e88_1507253728

listen closely starting at the 2:00 minute mark.
Yep - I hear it!
Worth recording and checking the waveform visually.
Will do.
Also I still think that 1 shooter was located around the right side of the stage as pointed out by several of the concert crowd in a couple of the cell phone vids. I want folks to go back to the 1st vid I posted and look at the smoke cloud as it rises from behind the sign, it is not from cooking, it appears at the same time as the shooting starts from the left/fence side of the sidewalk! What is also confirmed is that most of the injured where located on the left side of the stage as discussed in the police scanner audio here:
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=378_1506956902

- Hawk
Ok - agreed. Lots of evidence which
points to the right hand side of the stage.

But that's the only additional shooter I can be sure of.
I know there are claims of more - but not convincing.

Two shooters - one high - one low.
My working hypothesis.
:!:

Meanwhile, back at
the Spin Factory:


MGM Resorts, owners of the Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay hotel insisted security guard Jesus Campos appear ONLY on Ellen and not be grilled by TV hard-hitters, fearing Campos might not keep his story straight under the pressure of the TV lights and hard questioning. His answers to timeline questions could result in massive lawsuits from victims of the massacre.

Union boss David Hickey who was helping set up the deal, told DailyMail.com: "It certainly wasn’t my choice that he should appear on that circus."

In her interview, Ellen didn't once press Campos on the official timeline of the shooting, which has changed three times since the massacre. MGM has disputed the official timeline, which insinuated they may have waited six minutes to call cops.

Police later changed the timeline again, saying that Campos immediately called in the shooting as soon as he was injured --soon after the mass shooting had begun.
[Ellen: Jesus, you’re the security officer, and you were called to check on a door that was, I guess that when a door is left open a certain amount of time, you’re supposed to go check on it, right?]

(Jesus) Yes, we get a notifications making sure that uh, to secure them, or if they’ve already been secured then making that uh, that check on the doors.

[Ellen: Okay, so you were going up the fire escape to get there?]

(Jesus) Via the stairwell, from I was coming from the 31st up to the 32nd. Uh, when I approached the door, it didn’t open, and it was blocked off, so I had to re-route.

[Ellen: Is that a normal thing? That the door, the fire escape, the stairwell, would be blocked off?]

(Jesus) No. They’re always supposed to remain open. And so umm, afterward I dropped down, and came back through the hallway, and then I approached the room, got into the door, there was a metal bracket holding the door in place.

[Ellen: Right, so what we’re talking about here, just so everybody is clear. Okay, so, this is where the, the hotel room where is, where the shooter was. This is the stairway where, and this doorway here was blocked, and you didn’t know that till you came up and, and through the elevator, and went through this door and saw that there was something blocking that door. And when you saw that, did you think, that’s weird, why would somebody put brackets on a door?]

(Jesus) Yeah, that’s just out of the ordinary.

[Ellen: That was the beginning?]

(Jesus) Yeah.

[Ellen: Okay. Then you walk out of this and this just slammed?]

(Jesus) Well, when I was in between that area, I was calling security dispatch to get transferred to engineering, they didn’t know anything about it, so they dispatched an engineer to go verify what that was. [And that’s when you got called? (Stephen) Yes] And at that time I heard what I assumed it was drilling sounds. And I believed that they were in the area working somehow.

[Ellen: So, you thought the drilling, they were gunshots, but you thought it was just drilling sounds.]

(Jesus) At first I think it was just drilling sounds.

[Ellen: Right. So then, at what point do you get shot? What happens here?]

(Jesus) As that door is closing and it’s so heavy it’ll slam. I was walking down this way, and I believe that’s what caught the shooter’s attention. As I was walking down, I heard rapid fire, and at first I took cover. I felt a burning sensation. I went to go lift my pant leg up and I saw the blood. And that’s when I called it in on my radio that shots had been fired. And I was going to say that I was hit, but I got on over my cell phone just to clear that radio traffic for they can coordinate the rest of the call.

[Ellen: …So, he shot. You didn’t even know he shot through this door, right?]

(Jesus)Yeah, from behind the door. I don’t know how he was shooting, but he shot out.

[Ellen: Right. So, you didn’t even know it was coming from here. So Steven, at this point, so you’re called up. You just think that you’re coming to look at a door that’s been blocked in the firewell, right?]

(Stephen) Yeah, I didn’t think anything out of the ordinary at the time. I came from a higher floor and came down on a different hallway service elevator and I walked out and I rounded the corner for the 100 hallway, and that’s when I, you know it’s quiet at this time, and the doors are set back as you can see in that, about a foot, and Jesus was toward the end of the hallway, but I didn’t know at that time. I thought I saw someone, like, pop out of the cubby, and I kept walking, and once I got more than half way is when I saw Jesus and I started to hear shooting, and I thought, at the time I didn’t know it was shooting, I thought it was a jackhammer, and as an engineer, I’m like we’re not working up here this late at night, we wouldn’t be doing that. And it was, I believe outside, it wasn’t in the hallway yet. And that’s when Jesus, he uh, he leaned out, and said, “take cover, take cover” and yelled at me, and within milliseconds, if he didn’t say that, I would have got hit.

[Ellen: Because he was still shooting. So, you would have been hit had he not told you…]

(Stephen) Yeah, I wasn’t fully in cover and they were passing behind my head, and I could feel the pressure…

[Ellen: You could feel the pressure going past you just even being out of the way.]

(Stephen) Yes.

[Ellen: And were guests coming out of the doorways?]

(Jesus) Umm, there was a female that came out, and I told her to go back inside it wasn’t safe. Shortly after, that’s when Stephen was approaching, and I told him to stay back and get cover. And that’s when more rounds were dispersed.

[Ellen: Right. Wow. So, really, he saved your life. He saved also the woman who came out the door to go into the hallway. First of all, thank you so much for being here. I know you’ve had so many people asking for you to tell the story and to talk about this, and I understand your reluctance because you just want this to be over, so you’re talking about it now and you’re not going to talk about it again and I don’t blame you because why relive this over and over again, but it’s helpful for people to understand what a hero you are, because you, being shot in the leg, saved so many people’s lives, and instead of you just getting out of there, you saved Stephen’s life, you saved that woman’s life, and who knows how many other people, and uh… so we just wanted to celebrate you. That’s why you’re here today, because we wanted to thank you for what you’ve done. Even after this happened, instead of going to the hospital, you stayed to give police all the information they needed to piece these things together. And also, what else did you want to mention?]

(Jesus) I just wanted to mention all the people that assisted that night. Whether it was metro, the FBI, the community especially coming together to help everyone in need, the first responders, even the people that got called in to assist in the hospitals, and just everything is, put the pieces together, on how everyone came together to help that night in the darkest hour.
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Google Las Vegas shooting bullet holes. No pix from the Pollack case. Then Google Syria bullet holes. Puuu-lenty!

I did, however see two bullet holes in the oil tanks. Tanks a lot.
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Watching Lionel interview over on Infowars and one point he was making was how if 500 were injured how come there are so few interviews with these surviving hospitalized victims. He says it's probably because too many will attest to multiple shooters on video. But I Googled Las Vegas wounded interviews and did find a couple - not zero- videos with women in hospital beds giving pretty believable testimonies. One was from Canadian news. The other was some other outfit but not CNN, and co. Of course they said nothing about how many shooters. There may be more videos but but those two were too wrenching for me to watch more. Not sure if this dearth of videos is fruitful clue in our case to find the deeper and darker facts of this incident.
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Jimbo wrote:There may be more videos but but those two were too wrenching for me to watch more.
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For those that think that there were no casualties (ie crisis actors/no one really died), I found this picture.

Surprising that this is the only picture out there that I have found that shows actual wounded/dead people considering the number of cell phones that would be taking pictures.

https://imgur.com/arPWIA8
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but would all those bodies just be lying there un-attended?
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I don't know the timing of the photo, but perhaps this was taken just after everyone cleared out and medical help has not yet arrived.
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