James, I can say with pretty close to absolute certainty that the SNP will not be getting my vote next time around and I know numerous people who feel exactly the same way.
I hear you Man and sympathise - the SNP hierarchy seems too comfortable with "devolved" (and thus retained) power and appear to have NO urgency to change that situation. It looks like they may go the way of "Scottish" Labour before them, who used to "weigh their votes instead of counting them" and they might be in for a nasty shock!
There has been much talk of setting up a new 'Pro-Indy' party by WingsOverScotland among others and indeed one has made a committment to launching in the near future this week -
https://indylive.radio/blog/colette-wal ... and-party/
https://www.barrheadboy.com/scottish-pr ... te-walker/
The d’Hondt method for the Additional Member System of 73 constituencies (FPTP) and 56 ‘list’ or ‘regional’ make it difficult to near impossible to reach the magic number of 65 seats for an overall majority - by "Unionist" design, of course, to specifically STOP the SNP and Scottish Independence.
Many talk of trying to "game" the system but the representatives of the new "Independence for Scotland Party" are correct to claim they have a democratic right to stand on the "List Vote" only, in the hope of gaining seats lost to the million+ votes that go to the SNP which only result in 3 or 4 seats at most and are instead undeservingly "won" by troughing, useless Unionists who have no interest in Scotland whatsoever.
There's an on-going debate as to whether splitting the "indy-vote" would be effective for gaining the "indy-majority" or whether it would in fact endanger it - some for/some against ...
Most notably - scotgoespop.blogspot.com
and the careerist SNP hierarchy & MPs AGAINST and ....
Equally notably - wingsoverscotland.com
and many, many YES Movement supporters who are sick and tired of waiting for the SNP led Scottish Government to finally DO SOMETHING about getting Independence FOR
James Kelly of "Scotgoespop" is very good at polling etc. but ...... I just don't trust him. I suspect him of being a deep cover plant. He's much more subtle than others ...
[Another of the supposed "Pro-Indy" alt media that suspect (in fact I'm almost certain) is Mike Small of bellacaledonia.org.uk although they both post good articles now and again (like the MSM
James Kelly takes great pleasure now that Rev Stuart of WINGS has been banned from Twitter to spout his bile without recrimination as his latest article demonstrates ... although not without momentary comments to the contrario -
Landmark Wings poll finds that the SNP's popularity is crucial to preserving the coalition of support for independence
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.com/2020/05 ... -snps.html
One of the reasons I knew in advance there was a Wings poll on its way was that people who had been interviewed by Panelbase mentioned there were "a lot of oddly-worded questions about the trans issue". But it turns out that the oddly-worded questions weren't just confined to one subject. Check out this monster -
UnknownMay 11, 2020 at 6:24 PM
It's not 2011 any more, voting patterns have changed, Labour have lost the central belt to the SNP and the Lib Dems have collapsed. You need to stick to either the condition of likely, i.e. the SNP won't win list seats in all but two or three of the regions and a pro indy fringe party won't win 5% of the vote on the list. Or alternatively possible, the SNP will repeat the 2011 result (all but impossible without a sea change in voting based on current polling) and the pro indy fringe party will win 5% of the vote.
You can't have it both ways.
To gain list seats, based on current polling, The SNP either have to win over 10-15% of the unionist vote or a new pro indy party has to gain 5% of the yes vote. Out of the two options I think I know which one is more likely.
Now lets play you delete (as always) and I repost (for the first time) have fun now!
The idea of a "List Vote" ONLY party is discussed in detail by WingsOverScotland here -
But back to Holyrood Elections 2021 and whether to vote SNP 1-2 or vote SNP 1 and "Pro-Indy" Party 2 (eg IPS) or indeed whether to vote SNP at all?!
Where did it all start and what happened? ...
The Rise of the SNP
https://grousebeater.wordpress.com/2020 ... f-the-snp/
I was certain we would lose the first independence referendum, so certain that I placed a £100 bet in William Hill at 7 to 1, to win the vote. I did the patriotic thing, the futile sacrifice. And why not, as Arnold Brown is want to say. Colonised over 300 years, the chances of the ill and the sick getting up off their mattresses to vote the invaders home was no more than fantasy. After all, we hardly had more than a year of a national debate to turn Britishness into nationness. No amount of frantic idealism was going to reverse 300 years of imposed English values overnight.
Be prepared – next year, maybe
Is that the time already?
Now, in 2020, the SNP has reached a crossroads. Having ignored three mandates and as many opportunities to use them, given to them by the electorate to process a second referendum on autonomy, discontent has created a clamour for the constitutional change the SNP so often promised.
The SNP is once again faced by the old enemy, an implacable, far-right Tory Party in power at Westminster determined to treat Scotland as a province, but give it less respect than Northern Ireland, indeed, less respect than Gibraltar.
England’s nationalist upsurge has its goal to regain its own parliament and embrace delusions of empire with inflated occasions of pomp and circumstance. Simultaneously, when it ought to have been at its most politically vigorous, the SNP is mired in badly thought through policies, cases of sleaze and conspiracy it could have avoided, and dragged out of the European Union against its will by the British sta
The SNP sees itself out of step with the concerns and anxieties of the people who put it in power. Dissent mounts. Formerly avid supporters bleed away who see the SNP as risk averse, clumsy and unreliable. Self-determination is superseded by self-flagellation.
Historians studying Scotland state the Union is dead. Scots acknowledge the Union is wholly unfit for the 21st century, but the SNP, hell-bent on chasing more mundane political matters, appears unable or unwilling to do what it was elected to do, give Scotland back to its people.
NOTE: This is a work in progress.
Others tire of playing parliament poker and opt for another way and to declare a #ScottishUDI
... but it won't be the SNP doing that! -
https://peterabell.scot/2020/05/14/to-a ... n-cultist/
https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/2020 ... na-cherry/
Opinion: Kevin McKenna: Has push for independence been sidelined by Hate Crime and Gender Recognition fanatics?
is one who has been vociferous in recent weeks for the independence case to be pressed home. Yet, such sentiments seem to be considered dangerous by the SNP’s presidium and so the ubiquitous anonymous ‘party source’ was duly despatched not merely to contradict her but to ridicule her too.
Such is the way with the party that preaches respect for women. Is it these views that have so upset the party hierarchy – they’re not exactly surprising – or is it her support for Mr Salmond
and her perceived unease about the proposed Hate Crime Bill and the Government’s equally obnoxious proposed Gender Recognition reforms?
A more immediate concern now arises about what sort of country the Scottish Government wants to shape before and after independence. This is when the picture begins to darken considerably. There is something sinister being hatched here underneath our noses.
It’s becoming apparent to many in the wider Yes movement that the Scottish Government has been hollowed out by a group of fanatics who are influencing and making policies by stealth and subterfuge to suit their narrow agenda.
A wide-ranging poll conducted this week for Wings Over Scotland
by Panelbase has already produced one astounding conclusion: that the number of SNP voters who’d be willing to sacrifice power for the sacred goal of independence has dropped from 82% to 59%.
It bears out my worst fears for the future of the independence movement: that the party which alone is defined by this has now become so dazzled by the trinkets of high office that it’s fast losing the stomach for the fight.
Instead, it seems, party managers would rather Scotland be used as a pilot for an experiment in gender tyranny reinforced by an Orwellian surveillance programme. They have made independence subservient to a different agenda.
And finally just to add injury to insult the Scottish Government are now bailing out the "Scottish" mainstream Newspapers - the very ones who attack them constantly, their literal, literary enemy!
Government chiefs reveal £3m ad boost for Scottish newspapers
https://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/2020 ... ewspapers/
It is not acceptable for public cash to be handed out to the newspaper sector in Scotland under the guise of government adverts which will have questionable impact. There are citizen websites that are more widely read and trusted than these newspapers.
The YES Movement dispairs and not surprisingly it is becoming harder and harder for many to hold their nose and give their vote to the SNP one last time (but will it really be the last time, they've said that so many times before) in the hope that this time it will finally mean something ....
Hold! Hold! Hoooooold! ....
Maybe it will take the dismantling and reforming of the SNP before Independence is finally realised and that might be after 2025!
Only time will tell