Sandy Hook Shootings Investigation Latest

[skinters]

New batch of Sandy Hook actors. Establishing the right edge of the discourse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAYLr6u2FyY

Why do you suspect this pro gun guy as being an actor ?.

Trying to understand the way you looking at this one.

[Andrew]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... RNxI4&NR=1

Its a film of a drill, all acting, teachers, police, shooters, reporters, kids ........

Published on Jan 23, 2013

After you see this video that I borrowed from (E Morgan Schuster), you'll have a greater understanding of how these drills really play out. Now, lets go back to Dec 14th. Do you remember when Sandy Hook first hit the news? I do. It was hours after the fact but there was a reason for that. FEMA was only 20 minutes away, having classes on "kids in crisis" or something close to that. They waited a while before putting it out to the public that there had been a shooting. They had to get their story straight about what happened but they messed up sop bad, it's pathetic! 2 guns, 2 pistols and one bush master and now it's 4 pistols and the long gun was found in the trunk. The car doesn't even belong to Adam Lanza or his mother, she never was a teacher at the school, a mother was texted by CBS? I really don't get that one but she said it, not me. It started out as kindergartener's that were shot but then it changed to 1st graders. Adam shot his father in NJ but then he didn't. Who's to say that Adam's mother was even shot? The school and his mothers home are sealed by the court for 90 days. By then, everyone will be over it or, that's what they think. No video has been released. Nothing at all. On 1/22/13 there was a college shooting in Texas and it was on tv just minutes after the shooting but that's because it wasn't staged and it wasn't a hoax. Two people shot each other and the custodian got shot too I think and that's it. No deaths. Anyway, pay attention to what the man says in this video at (20:26) and it's the same thing that happened at Sandy Hook. It was a somewhat controlled situation but all of these people are actors at Sandy Hook. This could happen at my sons school and I would fall for it. Something everyone should think about. Why aren't parents lashing out at all of us that are posting the "hoax" videos? One mother had to beg and plead to have her daughters picture removed from several Face Book pages, saying she was dead when really, she don't even live in CT. at all. Her daughter Lilly actually had R.I.P. on 8 different pages and the picture was taken in 2009 I believe. This world is really whack lol.

[RedMahna]

skinters -

Its easy in hindsight to say what we would have like to see a photo of ie a nice juicy close up of the front just after the shooting.

I personally would have thought twice of trying to gatecrash a scene like that.

If the road leading up was blocked off you would have to pull right back up make your way through the woods.

Knowing that there had been a shooting with possible suspects in the area i would never have tried it.

i'll give ya that. but doesn't everyone have a freaking cell phone these days? no one thought of taking a shot or two for twitter like peeps do in say Libya during a firestorm between govt and rebels? and here i thought it is now a genetic knee-jerk reaction to snap pics.

i could be wrong, but i prolly would have taken pics were i on the scene day of event...

red

[skinters]

Theres a few problems i have with this being a 'drill' in its entirety.

Trying to get it plausible in my mind.I mean i have to look how i would recruit people to do such a thing.

It would take several hundred people to organize and be part of.

The logistics would be a fooking nightmare to organise and keep quiet.

These people involved have relatives ,mothers , fathers whole families that would be privy to it all...it boggles the mind.

I do believe that there are undercover elements, but only in part.Elements used to divert and confuse the situation.

The whole idea of this being some sort of reality drill don't sit right somehow.

i'll give ya that. but doesn't everyone have a freaking cell phone these days? no one thought of taking a shot or two for twitter like peeps do in say Libya during a firestorm between govt and rebels? and here i thought it is now a genetic knee-jerk reaction to snap pics.

i could be wrong, but i prolly would have taken pics were i on the scene day of event...

red

Yeah thats something else i want to look into...very strange.

I can only say the amount of times ive had my phone and NOT taking pics of something i should of springs to mind...its something to seriously look into.

[RedMahna]

true, i don't typically snap cell pics for everything and actually i think the entire phone pic/video thing in general (including govt and biz surveillence) has been getting very near creepy/paranoia/distrust/tattletale levels... yet, something as serious as a shooting, if i have my wits about me, i might want to take some visual records of it.

we can't speak for terrified victims, but perhaps amongst the responders, could not someone have had a moment to document what they'd seen? yes, yes, they were likely told not to.

well, i dunno...

red

[Andrew]

It would take several hundred people to organize and be part of.

The logistics would be a fooking nightmare to organise and keep quiet.

How do you work that out, if its a similar type of drill as pointed out in that "educational" film.

Only a few would need to be in on it and the rest none the wiser and just believe the hype.

[skinters]

yet, something as serious as a shooting, if i have my wits about me, i might want to take some visual records of it.

we can't speak for terrified victims, but perhaps amongst the responders, could not someone have had a moment to document what they'd seen? yes, yes, they were likely told not to.

well, i dunno...

red

With you 100%.

I'm just looking it how i would maybe react .The theory i have can only indicate to it being a real situation in that...you have blood n guts over the road and there you are snapping away...i have to think that if it was real people wouldn't want to be seen as macabre or insensitive..i dont think that wholly but it does spring to mind...

I have to take in all the angles and deal with them equally in turn.

It would take several hundred people to organize and be part of.

The logistics would be a fooking nightmare to organise and keep quiet.

How do you work that out, if its a similar type of drill as pointed out in that "educational" film.

Only a few would need to be in on it and the rest none the wiser and just believe the hype.

I was looking at it in you thinking that sandy was a hoax...a hoax in the way everyone there on the day was an actor.

I'm not trying to undermine you mate...just we differ on how it may have gone down.

[Andrew]

I was looking at it in you thinking that sandy was a hoax...a hoax in the way everyone there on the day was an actor.

Why do you think every one on the day would be an actor?


Just like a regular fire drill, it involves all the people in the whole building, but most of the people would be none the wiser if it was a drill or real a real fire. Until what they are told afterwards.

If they were sent home and told not to return because there was a fire and it damaged some chemical tank (a hoax). How many would have to be in on that, even if it was a building with thousands of people.

[skinters]

I was looking at it in you thinking that sandy was a hoax...a hoax in the way everyone there on the day was an actor.

Why do you think every one on the day would be an actor?

No mate.

I was looking at it in the way YOU thinking it was all done with actors.

[Andrew]

I was looking at it in you thinking that sandy was a hoax...a hoax in the way everyone there on the day was an actor.

Why do you think every one on the day would be an actor?

No mate.

I was looking at it in the way YOU thinking it was all done with actors

I don't think that and I don't think others who see it as a hoax think they were all actors (in on it; just a few).

Other than in the the way:

"Just like a regular fire drill, it involves all the people in the whole building, but most of the people would be none the wiser if it was a drill or real a real fire. Until what they are told afterwards.

If they were sent home and told not to return because there was a fire and it damaged some chemical tank (a hoax). How many would have to be in on that, even if it was a building with thousands of people."

It gets reported that it "happened", it will be cleared up next week and the workers return to work. No ones none the wiser.

Simple type of trick.

I just can't see how you think that all those people involved in the scenario above would have to be in on it.

[skinters]

Well you confused me so i can see how that might work lol.

I just got your last edit here,

I just can't see how you think that all those people involved in the scenario above would have to be in on it.

I dont think you have read my posts mate.

I DONT think that this is a set up drill wise.

I think there are those involved who were there to confuse and divert.

I look at those believing in it being a 'hoax'...as in all of them were actors or it was some sort of grand drill.

Its strange...9/11 'inside job'

Sandy hook 'hoax'

Whats next i wonder.

[Andrew]

I look at those believing in it being a 'hoax'...as in all of them were actors or it was some sort of grand drill.

Why? (why just one or the other)? Even in this simple scenario below, with it reported nationally, the workers, and the whole nation could be fooled by just one or two people in on it.

I don't think that and I don't think others who see it as a hoax think they were all actors (in on it; just a few).

Other than in the the way:

"Just like a regular fire drill, it involves all the people in the whole building, but most of the people would be none the wiser if it was a drill or real a real fire. Until what they are told afterwards.

If they were sent home and told not to return because there was a fire and it damaged some chemical tank (a hoax). How many would have to be in on that, even if it was a building with thousands of people."

It gets reported that it "happened", it will be cleared up next week and the workers return to work. No ones none the wiser.

Simple type of trick.

I just can't see how you think that all those people involved in the scenario above would have to be in on it.