Affair of the Hermae

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[Rosalinda]

The European oligarchical system, where you have landlords run
the world. This is called the "oligarchical system": A group of
wealthy families run society, the way they ran ancient Sparta,
where the helots were hunted down for pleasure, by the young bad
guys of the wealthy families; where the poor were persecuted and
treated as animals; where society was based on treating human beings as animals.

Take Quesnay, for example: What he said
was, the property title, the title of nobility to property and
land, for mining and farming, was the magical thing which
produced wealth. And the people on the estate, engaged in
production of mining and agricultural production, were no
different than cows! Who should be fed enough hay in order to
continue to produce and meat. But, the fruit of production, the
{gain in wealth}, had been produced by that lazy bum with a
title, sitting in his estate, and it was this magical {title} to
that estate, which secreted this surplus value, this wealth.

That's the oligarchical system.

That was the system of Sparta. That was the system created
in European history by the Apollo Cult of Delphi, which created
Rome. This is what created the Roman Empire; this is what
created the Byzantine Empire; this is what created the form of
empire of the Middle Ages, where the Venetians were running these
bums called the Crusaders, the Norman chivalry, in running a
system of persecution of Muslims--Hey what d'ya know about that?
Back then? The anti-Islamic movement? Medieval! The Crusaders,
who were not Christian. They were out to crucify everybody.
And they were working for... the Venetian bankers!
This was the Medieval system that led to the dark age.
This was what was restored in Europe, again,
the Fall of Constantinople, where the Venetians took power again.

This is what led to the formation of British Empire,
the Anglo-Dutch Liberal system,

...which is the same thing!

They reintroduced slavery.

Now, again, they've reintroduced the anti-Islamic movement,
have a war against Islam! Same thing all over again.

So therefore, the system is
to manage the planet, by treating the majority
of the human population of the planet {as animal life}:
which you can cull, kill, or maintain a pet--and then eat
--as you do a pet cow in a barn.

The oligarchical system.

What was achieved in the Renaissance was the kind of idea
represented by Solon of Athens, represented by Plato:

the idea that the totality of the people--the people contain something
which is not an animal. The people contain a spiritual, intellectual power,
which distinguishes man from the beast.

And therefore, human beings can not be treated as animals!

And society exists for the benefit of humanity, for {future} humanity,
and future humanity is the {children of all of people living now!}

So therefore, {real} politics is not democracy.

Real politics is {care} for the welfare of all of the people,
for the benefit of future humanity. It is the respect for the sovereignty of cultures.

Because different people have different cultural backgrounds,
they can function only in terms of their language,
their culture which they communicate in.

Therefore, people organize themselves in language-cultures,
or cultures of tradition. Why? Because they {think} in those
terms. If you want to have representative government,
you have to give the people the access to the system which is {theirs},
in which they do their thinking, in which they can develop ideas.
And therefore, at the same time, you must then have a
fraternity among relations of different cultures on the planet.

[Rosalinda]

the inside of culture has been hidden from humans
anyhting that is earlier than 12-13,000 years ago.

one insight humans have is from from Central Asia,
the Bal Gangadhar Tilak came along, who did a study,
based actually on German studies in astronomy from the 19th century,
and decoding some of the Vedic hymns.

And the Vedic hymns had in them
a collection of holidays and the holidays
were prescribed on the basis of solar astronomical cycles.
So therefore, humans could adduce the calendar
and we could adduce the date of some of the Vedic hymns
from this information.

In the same way, human have determined that people,
were using magnetic compass orientation for transatlantic voyages

It's in some of these calendars, the fact
of these long-wave cycles of that period;
the significance of long-wave cycles for
ancient cultures is not widely known.

[Rosalinda]

So we have insight
into some of the things about the mind of man,

....how it was developed, how it worked,
going back even a couple hundred thousand years ago,
especially more specifically 50-60,000 years ago.

{But!} We do not have records of the conversations and correlated actions
of ordinary people within the culture in that period.

Our knowledge of culture is essentially about 6,000 or 7,000 years ago,
in terms of what we know about cultures.

So therefore, we don't really {know}, in any significant detail,
the mechanisms by which some of the things developed.
But we do know they developed, and we do know some things.

[Hocus Locus]

Amidst history's mist, turgid frost
Voicemail is missing, emails lost
Bytes and bits fade
Information is toast

"Welcome!" to this future dark age!
"You have mail!" you silly ghost!

~~recovered data fragment from optical disc, late 20th century, all other works by this author presumed lost in 2015 tsunami or 2031 firestorm.

_____

WE ARE LIVING IN A FUTURE DARK AGE.

ON THIS DAY, when we seek answers as to what people were thinking 3,000 years ago,

We visit the pyramids of egypt, read the proud inscriptions of stone, lovingly preserved, which tell us of distant kings and slaves and conquest of astronomy and dreams.

Today we build from steel, concrete, and glass. Our digital media is designed to last 20 years -- perhaps 100 years, tops. It is plastic, mostly photo sensitive. Most working data is etched invisibly as miniscule loci of magnetic polarity-shifts, packed together on thin substrate on aluminum platters spinning in near-vacuum.

Our scientisis are squinting through electron tunneling microscopes, gently prodding single molecules with tiny movements like a dung beetle rolling its treasure up a hill.

We could etch the Bible on the head of a pin, so small there would be plenty of room for several angels, besides.

I have a book printed in 1902 whose binding is firm, pages a smooth firm, uniform mustard color.

I have a book printed in 1992, whose brilliant white smooth pages have long since turned rough, pages are almost brown, the leafs easily detaching from the spine at the gentlest tug.

I originally wrote this some 12 years go, I distinctly remember typing these words; but I am typing them again because searches through hundreds of files in dozens of accumulated directories yielded not one occurence of a remembered phrase.

Several times in the last 10 years, I have suffered complete disk crashes; once the data was recovered at great cost, once a fileset months-old was restored from tape; most of the time, everything was mirrored on adjacent disks, some things are gone forever.

Nothing is being carved in stone. It is my wish that upon my spiritual dissolution, my remains cleansed by fire, ashes where you may, no stone or crypt, I would rather join the ashes of campfires, drawn again up into the veins of trees, through their leafs, glimpse the sun again. No stone to record my name -- what use would it be without the tales I have told?

Tell me rather a silly story in a tiny village, than read ten million empty names.

AND THUS... 3,000 YEARS FROM THIS DAY, when people are curious to know what life was like in the past,

They will visit the pyramids of egypt, read the proud inscriptions of stone, lovingly preserved, telling them of distant kings and slaves and conquest of astronomy and dreams.

The rest of the world will be a strangely twisted heap of wonder and disaster... none will find words there.

Let my name be told to the wind, which is more than it deserves.

But please, kind stranger, tell my stories to your children, so some may remember threre was once one such as I.

~Hocus Locus

[Rosalinda]

The future dark age we are living in is in no way inevitable.

It is like the man swimming in the flood who cried out, "Please!"
pointing to the Noah's Ark just approaching.

The man's wife, shook her head vehemently, repeatedly.

"I never believed that that thing would float, and I don't believe it now!"

[Rosalinda]

They drowned, quite naturally, and, in their last gurgling breath,
blamed all that was happening to them on the "inevitable."

One guy swimming nearby, did not drown; he smuggled himself
and his wife onto the ark, disguised as donkeys, he repeating, merrily,

"You know, I never believed in any of this," as he kicked his wife into silence.

Both, together with their descendants, have remained donkeys down to the present day.

As the pair's descendants say, still today,

"Better to make an ass of oneself,
than stick with popular opinion just a wee bit too long."

[Rosalinda]

The oligarchical model,
is known to us to be associated with several locations, especially Mesopotamia.
Now, the Mesopotamian culture was not a Semitic culture.
Semitic culture developed in Mesopotamia later.
The first thing, it was a culture
that came from the pre-Aryan population of India,
which, in the period of the great glaciation,
which is about 25,000 years ago or so,
that in this period, you had ice--not uniformly, but ice;
many ice cubes, big ones,
on top of the North American and European continent.
Then you had, up to the mountain range,
the Subcontinent of Asia, had people in it.
And the rivers were very mighty!
And the coastline, the water level was about 400 feet lower than it is today,
so the land was bigger, because the coastline was bigger.
You had gigantic rivers, coming down from the mountains,
in the glaciated areas, into port cities which are now underwater, 50, 100, so forth feet.
Because in this period, you had a maritime culture,
because with all the ice cubes sitting on the northern hemisphere,
if you were going to move around, you had to move by ship.
You would find that in the summertime you were quite comfortable up in the North Pole.
But in the wintertime, you had to get out of there.
and what'd you live on? You lived on a fishing culture.
And gradually human culture moved, as the glaciation spread,
human culture began to move into large river mouths,
and moved upriver. Humans went from eating ocean fish,
to eating other fish, from the rivers. And you had developments
around the mouths of large rivers. Then gradually,
you had a movement upstream, and so forth.

That being the case, that's your culture.

That's what we know about culture.

In this process, in Mesopotamia and adjoining areas,
you had the emergence of what is called an oligarchical culture,
which is known then
by terms which is equivalent to the word "oligarchical model."

The oligarchical model was that which was preached by the Delphi Cult of Apollo,

[Rosalinda]

That's what we know about culture.

In this process, in Mesopotamia and adjoining areas,
you had the emergence of what is called an oligarchical culture,
which is known then by terms which is equivalent to
the word "oligarchical model."

The oligarchical model was that which was preached by the Delphi Cult of Apollo,
which was a Satan cult; it was also an Adam and Eve cult--yeah!

Gaia was Eve,
the goddess of the cult.

The god of cult, who was killed, the penis cult,
was called Python--who got chopped up by Apollo,

who came in from Asia.

And they chopped up this big penis-- called Python,

this is Adam; Adam and Eve.

So they have a pit there, which is the gravesite of Python,
who had been chopped into pieces.
So then you had, the cult was the Cult of Pythia.
Pythia was a woman,
who sat behind a collection of balls,
in a receptacle. And she sat there--she's an idiot.
First she was a young woman,
and then when they got raped a few times, they put an old woman there,
for Pythia; and she would pull a ball out of this vase,
and this ball would be the answer to somebody's question
of "what's my future?"

Then you would have the priests of Apollo on the other end
of this gravesite,
the opposite side of the gravesite from Pythia.
And they would interpret the ball.

You ever hear about this kind of stuff before? Modern economists?

Then, at that point, if you paid more money, then Pythia would utter a poem,
which was a piece of meaningless gibberish.

Then you would take some more money out of your purse
and go over and talk to the priest of Apollo, on the other side:

"Hey, what is this thing mean, huh? What's the spin on this?"

So, they paid for it, and they'd get an answer.

Which is usually the wrong answer.

Now, this thing was also not only this kind of center, but it was also close to the coast,
and it was the center of maritime trade at the time, in the Mediterranean.

[Rosalinda]

The delphic temples were treasuries of money in the form of silver
and gold, and this is where the modern idea of money originated.

Now, this thing was also not only this kind of center,
the original temple was also close to the coast,
and it was the center of maritime trade at the time, in the Mediterranean.

It was also the place that created Romans.

Now, Romans didn't exist; Romans were created. They were a
synthetic people created by these people from the Cult of Apollo.

They went to a river, the Tiber, in the middle of Italy,
in the middle of Etruscan territory, and they took seven hills,
which was called Rome, and they built fortifications on the seven
hills.
And they wanted to breed, so they went out
and got some women and raped them, got them pregnant.
And these became Romans--a pregnant effort.

So, out of this process, you have now, this Cult of Apollo,
becomes the center of what's called the oligarchical model.

And they were also a maritime trading operation,
and an operation of international usury, like Venice was later.

So you had a system of empire, based on the oligarchical model,
whose power resided in the use of control of naval power,
or maritime power, in tradition of the Peoples of the Sea,
from which European civilization had come.

[zak247]

[Rosalinda]

Thucydides definitely underlines the importance of the destruction of the
hermae as a contributing factor or a coincidental factor or a mysterious
influence upon the preparations to launch the military expedition to Sicily
that would result in the destruction of two athenian armies and eventual
defeat and destruction of Athens herself. Here is what Thucydides says:

In the midst of these preparations all the stone Hermae in the city of Athens, that is to say the customary square figures, so common in the doorways of private houses and temples, had in one night most of them their faces mutilated. No one knew who had done it, but large public rewards were offered to find the authors; and it was further voted that any one who knew of any other act of impiety having been committed should come and give information without fear of consequences, whether he were citizen, alien, or slave. The matter was taken up the more seriously, as it was thought to be ominous for the expedition, and part of a conspiracy to bring about a revolution and to upset the democracy.

Information was given accordingly by some resident aliens and body servants, not about the Hermae but about some previous mutilations of other images perpetrated by young men in a drunken frolic, and of mock celebrations of the mysteries, averred to take place in private houses. Alcibiades being implicated in this charge, it was taken hold of by those who could least endure him, because he stood in the way of their obtaining the undisturbed direction of the people, and who thought that if he were once removed the first place would be theirs. These accordingly magnified the matter and loudly proclaimed that the affair of the mysteries and the mutilation of the Hermae were part and parcel of a scheme to overthrow the democracy, and that nothing of all this had been done without Alcibiades; the proofs alleged being the general and undemocratic licence of his life and habits

[Rosalinda]

Solon's ancient Athens, whose legacy the foolish Pericles
had inherited and destroyed, ruined itself and much more besides,
in the notorious Peloponnesian War. The real cause for the ruin
of Athens was the spread of Sophistry among a young-adult
generation comparable in their "new way of thinking" to the
generation of Baby Boomers of the upper twenty-percentile of
income-brackets in U.S.A. and western and central Europe today.
Today, that formerly young-adult generation, is running North America
and most of Europe's nations, a generation which, like a modern Pied Piper,
is now leading the world into a state of world affairs even worse than the doom of Athens.

[indigitydogdignation]

I'll confess to having read a tiny portion of what's been written on this thread - very interesting writing on the whole though. I've been chewing too much tobacco lately, my mind is usually wanting for vitamin c, my world is flattened and I've lost my affinity for prose.

It's nice to hear someone referring to the 'gold standard' as a psy-op, because it's certainly one of the oldest. The gold standard never actually existed, can't exist per-se in an economy that's growing (or grown) faster than the accumulation of the metal, not without massively over-extending credit beyond the point of actual reserves. There's nothing new about this prediciment, the 'gold standard' has always operated on a fractional-reserve basis, one in which paper was lent against non-existant gold with the demand that interest be repaid in gold. This is the primary means by which the European bankers consolidated so much wealth, and the means by which the United States government was bankrupted back in the 1930s.
The film "Money Masters" sums up the larger issues quite well. ....in case someone here hasn't seen it yet: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4525354984028001507&q=money+masters

The beginning is a little tiresome - give it time.

[Rosalinda]

The gold standard psych-op can be traced to the Temples of Delphi where

gold and silver were kept in treasuries and became the basis for a myth

that money derives its value from the storehouse of precious metals.

The Delphi Temple featured a Pythian priestess who was routinely bribed

in order to babble one thing or another of temporal interest to someone.

Then the petitioner takes the Pythian nonsense over across a cemetery

(the original Temple of Apollo at Delphi was built on a large graveyard)

to an old geezer in a shack who one pays or bribes to interpret the augury

Temples of Delphi sprang up at every trading port of the Aegean Sea and Asia Minor

Actually, it was the Delphi Temple operation that founded Rome which was located

in a hilly area strategically located in the territory of the Etruscan people

who had a relatively very advanced artistic tradition, society, and culture.

Roman coins were issued as seals of the myth that value is in a treasury.