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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

martial law and postponement of the 2008 presidential election

With all due respect, puffdaddy, I personally think you're buying into the fear too much.

That scenario is completely unlikely in my humble opinion. Martial law and postponement of a presidential election are such a break from the norm that it risks unleashing an actual backlash. That said, the fact that you fear that scenario is precisely what they are counting on to maintain control.

But maybe I'm wrong too.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Bird Flu 2007 - An NWO Production Reply with quote

You are probably correct and I have thought about it lots, but I do have a hunch that something bad is about to happen regarding the "bird-flu" I know people who have stockpiled all kinds of food and supplies and preparing for the next disaster. (You know I wouldn't be paranoid if they weren't out to get me.)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: H5N1: Exercise & Real Life Outbreak Reply with quote

Developments on the Bernard Matthews Farm H5N1 case :

Government ministers defiant over handling of UK bird flu outbreak
February 5, 2007

Virus identical to case found in Hungary
February 7, 2007

Bernard Matthews faces ‘illegal’ imports inquiry
February 9, 2007

Operation at bird flu farm almost over
February 9, 2007

'Flu will claim 1,000 lives across country'
February 9, 2007

Bird flu farm 'continued exports'
February 12, 2007

Britain may have sent bird flu back to Europe
February 12, 2007

Turkey plant can reopen after bird flu, says UK
February 13, 2007

DEFRA: Suffolk bird flu outbreak cull now complete

Developments regarding Operation Winter Willow :

UK government at forefront in preparation for outbreak of influenza
February 6, 2007

NHS puts plans in place for Scotland to tackle pandemic
By Judith Duffy, Health Correspondent

Exercise Winter Willow - Pandemic Influenza

Part of the national exercise Operation Winter Willow is held in Suffolk, where Bernard Matthews Farm is also located, although these exercises are scheduled later in February :

Exercise Winter Willow

Exercise Winter Willow is a nationale influenza exercise. It is being labelled nationally as the largesti exercise since the Cold War. It will involve national, regional and local play.

The aims of the exercise is to enhance the UK's ability to manage the effects of a flu pandemic by exercising the response policies and decision making processes at, and between, these three levels.

In Suffolk, it is being held on 16 and 21 Feb 2007.

For more information, please contact Debra Lawrence, Health Emergency Planning Manager, Suffolk Primary Care Trust, debra.lawrence@suffolkpct.nhs.uk

Tel: 01473 329574


Other H5N1 resources :

H5N1: News and Resources about Avian Flu
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:35 am    Post subject: Mostly Young Are Dying Reply with quote

Ok, much of these stats need to be taken with a large grain of salt.
Nevertheless, the data would seem to show that the mortality rate is
higher the younger you are. The reason this is interesting is that this
type of mortality profile was seen in the infamous 1918 flu epidemic.

Some belive that was due to the immune system overreacting to certain
viral infections --and the stronger (=younger) the immune system, the
stronger the overreaction.

Interesting to see that a similar thing may be at play today.
We would need to look into this more, I am just taking note for now.

Most bird flu victims under 40, WHO analysis finds

Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:16 AM IST

by Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Ninety percent of the people infected with bird flu have been under the age of 40, and 60 percent of them have died, according to the latest analysis from the World Health Organization.

But the WHO researchers stressed their analysis did not suggest why this might be and noted there are several theories on why the H5N1 virus seems to attack younger people.

The H5N1 avian influenza virus has infected 272 people in 10 countries since it re-emerged in 2003. It has killed 166 of them.

It remains mostly a virus of birds and has killed or forced the culling of more than 200 million chickens, ducks, geese, turkeys and other fowl.

But its occasional attack on a human being has researchers worried. They fear it could mutate into a form more like seasonal flu, in which case it would be spread around the world by people and could kill millions.

So WHO is watching it very carefully and keeping statistics on every case. This kind of work, called epidemiology, can help scientists understand diseases, who they infect and who is most in danger.

WHO's Weekly Epidemiological Record, published on its Internet Web site at http://www.who.int, analyzes all laboratory-confirmed human cases of H5N1 infection reported between late November 2003 and late November 2006.

The analysis said the median age of people confirmed infected was 18 years old and ranged from 3 months to 75 years.

"Just over half of all cases (52 percent or 132 out of 256) were aged under 20 years, and 89 percent were aged under 40 years."

This could be because it usually requires intense contact with a sick bird for a person to become infected, and in most countries, it is younger people, often children, who tend to poultry.

But there could be other reasons, such as immune system response to infection, scientists say.

The WHO researchers found that H5N1 has killed 60 percent of its victims and found big differences in fatality by age.

"The highest case fatality rate (76 percent) was found among those aged 10 to 19 years; the lowest case fatality rate (40 percent) was found among those aged over 50 years," the report reads.

Bird flu killed 44 percent of victims under the age of 5 and 66 percent of those aged 30 to 39.

WHO scientists plan a meeting in Turkey next month to talk about why such differences may exist.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even though Defra announced to test wild birds after the Matthews farm outbreak, it turns out they failed to do so :

Defra investigators fails to test live wild birds for flu despite risk of infection
Gulls feeding on waste meat at infected farm could spread H5N1 to other poultry farms, officials admit
By Geoffrey Lean
Published: 18 February 2007

Bird flu investigators have failed to perform tests to see if gulls and other wild birds are spreading the deadly H5N1 virus from the stricken Bernard Matthews farm in Suffolk, although they accept that it is a threat.

Officials admitted late last week that they have not tested a live wild bird in Britain since the outbreak began three weeks ago. This appears to contradict repeated assurances from the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) that "wild bird surveillance" in the area has been "enhanced".[/quote]

Regarding the Winter Willow exercise :


It is feared that a flu pandemic could kill 400,000 people in the UK

Health teams in flu pandemic test
20 February 2007, 05:19 GMT

Hundreds of health officials from across Britain are due to take part in an exercise later to see how a flu pandemic would be dealt with.
Officials will stay in a bunker at the Department of Health, in London, as part of the logistical exercise.

The strategic trial is thought to be the biggest emergency planning event since the end of the Cold War. Officials estimate that a flu pandemic would affect one in four people and cause 400,000 deaths in the UK.

In the trial scenario, the first infected person is a businessman from Surrey who recently returned from South East Asia.

The operation is an attempt to estimate the way in which certain aspects of the country's infrastructure, such as health, transport, education and food distribution would keep working during an outbreak. Health officials fear that a new strain of flu will spread globally at some point in the future.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

British fictional pandemic flu diary published on youtube on February 10th :

Spring 2008


The bird flu pandemic started late summer 2007. It caught us all by surprise. hundreds of millions are dead. i started this diary so one day, people will know what happened.

Day 1: Quarantine

I got home from work today to find a road block on the main road and my whole village has been closed off.

Day 2: Bird Flu

It turns out to be bird flu, a local guy caught it a couple of days ago so it looks like I am stuck here for a while.

Day 3: Bad Day

An army guy came round to get my census form today, thing is something potentially kind of really bad happened.

Day 4: Pandemic

It looks like it's not just Ridgewood!

Day 5: Infected?

I'm feeling a bit crap today, it's only like a cold but it's still worrying considering what's going on.

Day 6: Happy Valentines?

It's not been the best valentines dat for me!

Day 7: It's Not Looking Good

The UK has entered a state of "full pandemic" and I don't think I am getting any better.


Chris gave me his log in, just in case.
Nikki (Ridgewood Friend)

Some interesting video materials on H5N1 from FluLab in the US :

News simulations for use in Pandemic Influenza Tabletop Exercises for businesses and communities at the 2nd International Bird Flu Summit, Washington, DC, May 24-25, 2006.

Bird Flu Scenario News: Arrival in US
Bird Flu Scenario News: Disease Spreading in the US
Bird Flu Scenario News: Pandemic Hits United States

Sample Public Service Announcements ("What do YOU do to prevent the FLU ?") :

Get a Flu Shot
Cover your Cough
Wash my Hands
Stay Home When Sick

FluLab lectures and briefings :

Avian Influenza: Preparing for the Pandemic
Who Gets the Bird Flu Vaccine?


Bird Flu Media Briefing, Part 1
Bird Flu Media Briefing, Part 2
Bird Flu Media Briefing, Part 3
Bird Flu Media Briefing, Part 4
Bird Flu Media Briefing, Part 5

Bird Flu Technical Briefing, Part 1
Bird Flu Technical Briefing, Part 2
Bird Flu Technical Briefing, Part 3
Bird Flu Technical Briefing, Part 4
Bird Flu Technical Briefing, Part 5
Bird Flu Technical Briefing, Part 6
Bird Flu Technical Briefing, Part 7

See also FluLab Reference Library (www.FluLab.com)

Materials distributed by FluLab, founding sponsor of the Bird Flu Summit series.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:22 am    Post subject: Tragedy swirls around Tamiflu Reply with quote

Tuesday, March 20, 2007
Tragedy swirls around Tamiflu

Staff writer

On Feb. 4, 2004, on a cold, snowy day in Gero, Gifu Prefecture, Haruhiko Nokiba's 17-year-old son fell sick. The fevered teen visited a local doctor, tested negative for a flu virus but was prescribed an antiviral drug called Symmetrel. He took a capsule that evening and another the following morning, but he still felt unwell and feverish, so on Feb. 5 he saw a doctor again. This time he tested positive for type A influenza. He was given another, more recently approved antiviral called Tamiflu.

The son, whose name Nokiba would not reveal, came back home, had udon noodles for lunch and, just around noon, took his first capsule of Tamiflu. Nokiba, who is a salesman for a local hotel, had a meeting that afternoon, so at around 2 p.m. he checked his son's room, saw him sound asleep and left home.

Then something bizarre happened. At around 3:45 p.m., police later learned, the teen bolted out the backdoor of the family's detached house, barefoot and in pajamas. He left a line of footsteps in the thick snow as he trotted down a hill, crossed a railway track, climbed over a crash barrier and leaped onto a busy road, where the driver of an oncoming 10-ton truck saw him and slammed on the brakes. But he was not fast enough. The teen was run over and died on the spot.

Police concluded that it was a "traffic accident," while locals rumored that it was a suicide. But Nokiba felt strongly that his son would have never killed himself. "He had no major problems in school at the time," Nokiba told The Japan Times recently. "He played basketball at the school and his team had just had a game a week before, in which he was a starting player. He was gentle and had many friends. I know my son."

Nokiba requested an investigation into the death by a semigovernmental agency that collects information on drugs. A year and a half later, he received a notice from the agency, which said that the teen's "suicide" was linked to the first drug he took. Nokiba found it suspicious because there was no mention whatsoever of Tamiflu, the drug his son took shortly before running out of the house.

Today, Nokiba says he is convinced that it was Tamiflu that made his son act so weirdly. His conviction is growing, as a series of other mysterious deaths have emerged in recent years, including cases of youths having taken the drug who have jumped to their deaths from high-rise apartment buildings.

The antiviral drug Tamiflu, marketed in Japan by Chugai Pharmaceutical Co. has been suspected of playing a role in the deaths of 54 people in Japan. Below, a Roche employee at a plant in Basel, Switzerland, checks capsules of the drug as they are manufactured. YOSHIAKI MIURA PHOTO

Popular in Japan
Tamiflu, or oseltamivir phosphate, manufactured by Swiss-based Roche Group and marketed in Japan by its subsidiary Chugai Pharmaceutical Co., is enormously popular in Japan, where a total of 35 million people have taken it for flu treatment since its approval in 2001 -- accounting for more than 70 percent of its global consumption, according to the Health, Labor and Welfare Ministry.

But the blockbuster drug is under a cloud of doubt. Between 2000 and October 2006, 54 people, including 16 children, died after taking Tamiflu, health ministry statistics show.

The ministry, in May 2004, did make it mandatory for Chugai Pharmaceutical to mention "neuropsychiatric symptoms" in its leaflets, such as disturbances in consciousness, abnormal behavior, delirium, hallucination, delusion and convulsion as side effects. But the ministry for years did little more, despite tougher action demanded by Nokiba and others who have been concerned with the drug's safety, on grounds that "no causal relationships" have been found between Tamiflu and abnormal behavior. It has argued that influenza itself might also be linked.

Doubts grow
The government has based its safety arguments on a report compiled at the ministry's request last year by a researchers' group headed by Yokohama City University Professor Shumpei Yokota. Dr. Yokota, who is a pediatrician, and seven other experts, surveyed some 2,800 doctors who treated children with a flu. They concluded last fall that the rates of abnormal behavior exhibited between those who took Tamiflu and those who didn't were not statistically different.

Then came revelations last week that Dr. Yokota had been paid a total of 10 million yen by Chugai Pharmaceutical -- the seller of Tamiflu -- between 2001 and 2006, casting doubt on the credibility of the research. Yokota told a news conference that the "research grants" from Chugai did not influence the report's outcome.

Officials of Yokohama City University said that the money -- part of 48.6 million yen he received from about 10 drug makers during the 6-year period -- was properly accounted for by the university. "It was not the kind of money the professor could use freely as an individual," Shinji Imai, an administrator at the university, said. But he said that Yokota's office has been allowed to use the grants for a wide range of purposes, such as to buy office supplies and equipment, finance travel expenses for academic trips and salaries for assistants.

Even before news broke of the payments, observers of Yokota's work said the report was riddled with flaws. Dr. Rokuro Hama, chairman of the Osaka-based NPOJIP, a pharmaco-vigilance group, said the survey failed to take into account the fact that, with Tamiflu, most abnormal behaviors have taken place within six hours of the first or second dose. The survey compared the rates of abnormal behavior between Tamiflu users and nonusers over a seven-day period, concluding that their rate difference -- 10.6 percent among nonusers and 11.9 percent among users -- was too small to prove Tamiflu guilty.

Hama argued that if you compared the frequency of abnormal behavior in the daytime of the first day the patients got sick, it is almost four times higher among Tamiflu users than nonusers. He also pointed to a U.S. Food and Drug Administration memorandum in September 2006 that looked into cases mostly from Japan and said that FDA researchers "cannot rule out the possible contribution of oseltamivir to the adverse consequence over and above the adverse symptoms which may result from the natural history of influenza-illness."

Ministry hits back
Responding to a barrage of criticism, Yasushi Jotatsu, a health ministry official in charge of drug safety, said Hama's comparison cannot explain a large amount of abnormal behavior seen in other time slots. He said the FDA document was just a "discussion paper," noting that many of the views expressed in the memorandum didn't make it to the agency's final conclusion in November 2006, which required Roche to revise its product label to mention "an increased risk of self-injury and confusion after taking Tamiflu." Japan adopted the same warning level in May 2004, he said.

Jotatsu admitted, however, that the report was not comprehensive enough to evaluate the actions of children right before and after taking Tamiflu, saying the ministry is asking Yokota to conduct another, more detailed survey this year, covering at least 10,000 people.

Even so, the ministry finally issued a warning to doctors on Feb. 28 this year, after two more teenagers -- a 14-year-old girl in Gamagori, Aichi Prefecture, and another 14-year-old boy in Sendai, Miyagi Prefecture -- jumped to their deaths from condominium buildings in which they lived after taking Tamiflu earlier that month. While still negative on the drug's link to the deaths, the ministry urged doctors to tell families of flu patients to keep their eye on minors, at least during the first two days, "regardless of whether or not the patients are prescribed Tamiflu."

Is Tamiflu safe enough to be given to your child? Maybe not for a regular flu virus, said Dr. Kazuhiko Kabe, a pediatrician and chief of the newborn infants department at Aiiku Hospital in Tokyo. While many experts consider Tamiflu, at the moment, the No. 1 choice for a possible pandemic triggered by bird flu, he is not sure if it is safe or effective enough for such an outbreak.

But he said people in Japan have used Tamiflu way too frequently, whereas in the U.S., for example, people would not normally visit a doctor every time they have flu-like symptoms or get tested for influenza. "Japanese people blindly believe that, if you come down with flu, you must take Tamiflu," Kabe said. "That's just abnormal."

An excessive fear of flu might be explained by the exceptionally high prevalence in Japan of influenza-assoc- iated encephalopathy -- inflammation of the brain caused by viral infection -- among children, which can cause deaths and severe brain damage, Kabe said. Such complications have been found to occur at a much higher rate among Japanese and Taiwanese than people from other nations (the mechanism of the illness is yet to be fully understood). But Kabe said that most people can get over flu if they take good rest and endure three days of high fever. "Not all flu patients develop encephalopathy."

Kabe has not prescribed Tamiflu this season for most patients, considering the rising number of sudden deaths. But informing parents about the pitfalls of using Tamiflu has been a challenge because faith in the drug remains strong among the public, despite the news reports of abnormal behavior, he said.

"My gut feeling tells me that Tamiflu was probably linked, albeit maybe not directly, in those reported cases. (But) there is a lot of demand for it from patients, and I bet some people have gone elsewhere to have the drug prescribed."
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March 21, 2007
Japan warns against bird flu drug for teens
TOKYO (Reuters) - The Japanese government has ordered the importer of the bird flu drug Tamiflu to warn doctors against giving it to teenagers, the Health Ministry said on Wednesday.

The warning is to be applied after two more teenagers were found to have injured themselves falling from buildings after taking the drug, produced by Swiss drugmaker Roche Holding AG, according to a ministry news release.

Two young people fell to their deaths last month, triggering concerns that Tamiflu, seen as effective against a possible pandemic triggered by bird flu, may induce psychiatric symptoms.

The drug is imported to Japan by Chugai Pharmaceutical.

"As well as changing the warning distributed with the drug, we have directed Chugai Pharmaceutical to raise awareness among medical professionals of the risk of abnormal behaviour after taking Tamiflu," the release said.

The new warning is to include the words: "Except in cases judged to be high risk, avoid prescribing this drug to minors over the age of 10."

The text will also instruct doctors to tell those caring for younger children taking Tamiflu not to leave the patients alone.

No one was available for comment at Health Ministry, which made the announcement in the early hours of Wednesday, a holiday in Japan, media said.

The move came after Roche said on Tuesday that new data from Japan and the United States indicated that there was no established causal link between Tamiflu and psychiatric symptoms.

"We have advised Roche of the warning," said a spokesman for Chugai Pharmaceuticals.

"Since patients taking Tamiflu have exhibited abnormal behaviour and fallen from buildings, we must accept this procedure. We want to raise awareness as quickly as possible," he added.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject: Smallpox Reply with quote

related: Smallpox scare (just found)

The Strange Case of Brian Brannman
Posted on March 28, 2007, 5:00pm | Jeff Taylor

Or -- "That's no drunk! That's a rear admiral!"

Recall that big smallpox scare last week. A flight from New Orleans to Charlotte briefly riveted world attention after a man on board a US Airways plane claimed to have smallpox.

Homeland Security went on scramble, the FBI was called in, 113 passengers were kept on the plane for hours, and the mysterious smallpox man was whisked to a hospital isolation room by a moon-suited hazmat team.

Smallpox is such a threat as a terror weapon that in 2002 President Bush announced a targeted vaccination program for first-responders and government leaders. Of course. This reversed about 25 years of public health policy, which held the deadly disease to be eradicated .

Meanwhile in Charlotte, the story next morphed into a drunken man who had made the smallpox claim as a hoax of some sort. Drunk Man did not have smallpox, nor did he expose others on the plane to smallpox. Still very odd, but not downright scary.

Yesterday the story got weird. Turns out the man who made the smallpox claim is Rear Adm. Brian Brannman of the U.S. Navy.

Brannman was returning from some sort of medical conference in New Orleans on the flight. Brannman has been the director of the Director of the Navy Medical Service Corps since 2004. Until January Brannman was double-hatted as also the head of the Navy's massive medical center in San Diego.

His military bio cites "the Legion of Merit (two awards), the Defense Meritorious Service Medal, the Meritorious Service Medal (four awards), the Navy Commendation Medal (two awards), the Navy Achievement Medal, the Armed Forces Service Medal, and various service and unit awards."

In short, nothing in Brannman's 28-year military career marks him as someone who would shout "Smallpox!" in a crowded airplane.

Now things get spooky. The investigation into Brannman's conduct on the plane is over.

The U.S. Attorney in Charlotte will not file charges against Brannman for disrupting the flight, let alone bring any kind of terroristic threat charge. The case is, officially, closed.

WBTV, so far the only media outlet reporting on Brannman's role in the incident, cites unnamed sources as saying Brannman suffered from "real mental problems" which contributed to the smallpox scare.

Perhaps. But mental issues or confusion or jokes have not been an effective shield against a federal prosecutor bringing charges in these kinds of incidents, especially since 9/11. If hoaxers or mental patients even make it to a courtroom, that is.

Rigo Alpizar was shot dead in December 2005 by air marshals after he had a panic attack and tried to bolt from a plane in Miami. Federal agents said he shouted something about a bomb. So they shot him.

Among the outstanding questions still to be answered regarding Brannman is the not small matter of access to smallpox. Does or did, Adm. Brannman have any access to the deadly disease in the course of his duties? Is there any kind of official policy on what kind of threats are ipso facto credible or does it completely turn on who you are? Was the incident some sort of first-responder test? Will Brannman continue in his current role with the Navy?

Or should we just go put our heads on our desks?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where is the line?
Are these jerks going to play these games over and over to desensitize the public?
This is a weird tale! If the guy had been exposed to smallpox, how is it possible that he would blow out, and call for aid?(Did he?)
Are agents of biochemical"defense" on the planes and trains and automobiles of this great nation?
Naww, the government would not put the citizens in peril that way, would they?

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This well-known guy from NotMilk.com has a strong opinion about something outside his field - bird flu. A Dr Michael Greger has made quite an impression on him. Here is his newsletter from this week telling his subscribers he wants to KILL all the birds on this planet ...

Obliterating The Fowl

Humans do not habitually die from the bird flu virus. Ducks are
carriers of that virus called H5N1. Ducks occasionally spread
the virus to chickens. When that happens, health authorities do
everything in their power to destroy every chicken within a
minimum of 1 kilometer radius of the outbreak. During this phase,
the virus can change or mutate. Occasionally, the virus mutates
into a form which can kill humans. If it is not immediately
controlled, a pandemic the likes of which killed 50 million
persons in 1918 becomes possible.

A few days ago (May 7, 2007), an Indonesian woman died from
bird flu. To scientists and epidemiologists, a single death
rings alarm bells which trigger an extreme response of
manpower, dollars, and unimaginable resources to those in
the know.

On the day of his coronation in 1589, 35-year-old Henry IV
of France said,

"If God grants me the usual length of life, I hope to make
France so prosperous that every peasant will have a chicken
in his pot on Sunday."

Although King Henry was posthumously awarded the title of "Henry
The Great," after his murder by a fanatic Catholic, historians
credit King Henry with having brought religious freedom to his
Protestant subjects and a prosperity to his people who received
a "chicken in every pot" for their Sunday dinners.

Three hundred and forty years later, President Herbert Hoover
borrowed King Henry's famous slogan and added a car to every
garage, and soon enough chicken stores sprouted a short drive
away from just about every garage in America, and so began a
series of illnesses, obesity, and a promise of plagues to come
that were destined to kill more people than all of man's wars.

Today there is only one solution to prevent the inevitable
pandemic that will kill 1 billion or more of the earth's human
population. Kill all that which is foul. Kill all of the fowl.
Eradicate the ducks and geese and chickens, which bring nuggets
of pleasure to fast food diners and cardiologists who treat fast
food diners. A pandemic is coming, and there is no "if" to that
conclusion, just when.

There was a time when I believed that the bird virus was a
giant myth and hoax launched by pharmaceutical companies with
White House connections. They would make zillions of dollars
stockpiling antidotes for each American. Let everybody else die.
We Americans and our way of life would outlive the world's
barbarians. We would be ready to battle the virus, they would not.
In the words of our supreme Commander in Chief, "Bring it on."

Two books for your consideration:

"Bird Flu: A Virus of Our Own Hatching" by Dr. Michael Greger,
the youngest, brightest, funniest, most passionate, fuzziest
veganist physician in America.

"The Great Bird Flu Hoax: The Truth They Don't Want You to Know"
by Dr. Joseph Mercola, the man who endorses the consumption of
saturated animal fat as a health food. Hates soy. Loves raw
cow's milk. Hates vegetarians. Loves carnivores. Eats obese
vegans for dessert topped with whipped cream, caramel syrup,
and nuts.

The summer of animal rights conferences is right around the corner
and this year's controversy numero uno shall be, "Do we slaughter
millions and billions of ducks and chickens at the source so that
the influenza virus does not mutate, or shall we extend compassion
to the avian poop machines who may soon bury your neighbors and

I've already cast my vote. Once on the side of the big, fat
hoaxsters, I now stand firmly behind Dr. Michael Greger, hoping
that his book, complete with 3,800+ references wins a Pulitzer
Prize for investigative journalism. Greger is a genius.
His website:


I say, do it humanely, but rid this planet of everything fowl while
we have the opportunity. Before the lungs of 50 million bipeds
from within. Who will be left to clean up the mess? Will there be
enough body bags, coffins, and toilet paper? I doubt it.

Alternatives? Wheat gluten and soy analogues make great
substitutes for diseased bird flesh, and as of yet, there
have been no sightings of the dreaded tofu flu.

Sorry to be the messenger of such gosh-awful news. Read Michael
Greger's book and get back to me before the mourning.

I recently had the opportunity to interview Dr. Michael Greger
on Tina Volpe's Wake Up America radio program. Scroll down to
May 7th. 2007 to listen to the archived show:


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the link to Michael Greger's eBook on Bird Flu:


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:26 am    Post subject: Hmmmm... Reply with quote

I could swear that Australia just snuck through some laws to do with an outbreak. Giving the government the power to force people to get checked out by a doctor. Of course that will mean manditory vaccinations, but oh that will just be considered standard practice to immunize everyone, for their own good you know!

So yeah, I reckon you are right Fintan, probably about the start of the mayan 5th night, in nov. this year.

We had our federal minister for health on the box telling us that it wouldn't effect anyone now, it's only their in case of an outbreak of some sort.

So the laws are now in place, in Australia anyway, so we are good to go on the bird flu. Wonderful ... sheesh.

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