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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:43 pm    Post subject: CA Prepares Mandatory HIV Reporting Reply with quote

NB - AIDS groups have dropped their opposition to mandatory
reporting of HIV cases.

Change in HIV reports in works
Sabin Russell, Chronicle Medical Writer
Monday, February 20, 2006

California lawmakers this week are preparing to ditch a rule that for
two decades has been a pillar of California AIDS policy: that the
names of those who test positive for HIV would not be reported to the

The rule afforded an extra measure of privacy and protection from
discrimination for those who were infected with HIV -- the virus that
causes AIDS -- for the average of 10 years it takes the disease to
progress to life-threatening illness.

But on Tuesday, the Assembly Health Committee will hold hearings on a
bill requiring doctors to report to county health officials the names
of those who have a positive HIV test. The names will be collected
and held in a secure computer by the state.

The measure has already passed the Senate, and is expected to win
quick approval in the Assembly and from Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
It has the backing of AIDS advocacy groups that for years fiercely
resisted any move toward what is known as names reporting.

An obvious reason for the turnabout is a looming threat from the
federal government to cut off hundreds of millions of dollars in AIDS
assistance to states that do not adopt names reporting. State
lawmakers estimate California could lose $50 million a year without
the change.

Advocates are also conceding, however, that the policy meant to
protect privacy and encourage gay men to get tested for HIV had
outlived its usefulness in an epidemic that bears little resemblance
to its earliest days.

"The rationale for holding this position dissolved over time," said
Mark Cloutier, executive director of the San Francisco AIDS
Foundation, which endorsed the name-based bill last fall, after years
of opposition to the concept.

Like other states, California has, since the beginning of the
epidemic, collected the names of those whose HIV disease has
progressed to AIDS. There is no evidence that the confidentiality of
that list has ever been breached.

"My view against names reporting has changed quite dramatically,"
said Tom Coates, an AIDS prevention expert at the UCLA David Geffen
School of Medicine. "People used to think it would deter people from
getting tested. But the experiment's been done, and it hasn't
happened. ... It's time not to worry about it any more.''

The anticipated transition of California to the name-reporting system
marks another step away from what has been called "AIDS
exceptionalism," where the epidemic is treated preferentially and
differently from other public health priorities.

Increasingly, HIV/AIDS cases are being addressed in the public health
system just like other sexually transmitted diseases. In San
Francisco, for example, city health workers are expanding a program
to notify the sexual partners of patients newly diagnosed with HIV
infection -- using the same "contact tracing" techniques developed in
the 1940s to reduce the spread of syphilis.

"Many people, myself included, supported AIDS exceptions in the
1980s, when AIDS was an incurable disease,'' said Michael Weinstein,
president of the AIDS Healthcare Foundation in Los Angeles, which
has been advocating names-based reporting for five years. "With AIDS
being a treatable illness, it's time to rethink that."

The emergence of effective combination drug therapies in the
mid-1990s changed the meaning of an HIV diagnosis. It created for the
first time a powerful incentive to be tested.

But the real drive to change to name-based reporting is a
congressional mandate. At the start of the fiscal year 2007 in
October, money from the federal Ryan White CARE Act must be
distributed to states based on the number of HIV diagnoses -- not the
number of recorded AIDS cases.

The catch for California is that the official tally of HIV cases that
will be used for distribution of Ryan White money is kept by the
federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, which
insists it will only count cases that are reported to a state by name.

"We've wanted the HIV data to help policymakers understand who needs
care and to come up with appropriate dollars,'' said Dr. Robert
Janssen, the CDC's division director for HIV/AIDS Prevention.

Janssen said that without collecting the names of HIV-infected
patients, it is virtually impossible to avoid errors such as double
reporting of the same case. On the East Coast, where many states
occupy relatively small geographical areas, the Center for Disease
Control found a 20 percent duplication rate. "That is not equitable
or accurate,'' Janssen said.

When the center first called for a name-based system in December
1999, most of the states with the largest number of AIDS cases --
such as New York, California and Illinois -- did not report the names
of HIV cases, and faced strong political opposition to doing so.

So systems to collect HIV cases using a code instead of a name were
developed. After lengthy wrangling in the state Legislature,
California began implementing its code-based system in 2002.

Now, however, the CDC has declared the code-based systems from
multiple states unworkable. "If you have a complicated code, one
person can become two persons, or multiple persons,'' Janssen said.

Support for California's code-based system has also eroded within the
state. "It overtaxed the county health departments, and led to a
backlog in the reporting of cases," said Michael Montgomery, chief of
the Office of AIDS at the California Department of Health Services.

With the $1.4 million spent annually on the coded system, Montgomery
said it will take California at least three years to convert to the
name-based system. "We have to clean out from the registry all
existing HIV data, and start all over again. The counties will have
to redo it. It will be a big undertaking,'' Montgomery said.

Although the legislation mandating name-based reporting is expected
to breeze through Sacramento, state officials acknowledge that the
data won't be ready for the federal government's fiscal 2007
deadline. In theory, Ryan White money that cities and counties have
relied upon for AIDS programs could still be lost.

"I do think there is a danger,'' said Montgomery. "We are talking to
the California congressional delegation, asking them to protect
states that are in the process of converting.''

E-mail Sabin Russell at srussell@sfchronicle.com.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please pick up a copy of the March 2006 issue of Harpers magazine which has a 15 page expose by Celia Farber on HIV/AIDS (The AIDS Machine and the Corruption of Science, by Celia Farber) , focussing on a very corrupt AIDS drug trial in Uganda sponsored by the National Institutes of Health. You can also email Harpers to thanks them at:letters@harpers.org
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:16 pm    Post subject: Can mandatory testing be far behind? Reply with quote

So, I wonder what happens when some people begin to avoid taking the
test 'cos they don't want to end up on some central gov. database?

And the authorities start whipping up fears and demanding some solution?


Can mandatory testing be far behind?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The AIDS orgs are desperate for funding so they will endorse almost anything that comes down the pipline it seems. They use to at least pretend they are into civil liberties... now they just want the funds that are drying up because AIDS is no longer a priority. I agree mandatory testing is next.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a recent educational speech on the 10th of May 2006, by Stephen Lewis for the American Counseling Association or ACA.


I'ts funny that Stephen has about 10 different "classic" African AIDS stories of which he has usually included a combination of about 3 in every speech he's given in the last 6 years.
At about 25 minutes into the speech, he discusses the importance of HIV testing and counceling(brainwashing). I think it would be safe to assume that the majority of people in the audience are young female counselors or students, who have grown up idolising Oprah Winfrey and Dr Phil. At about 28 minutes he talks about a new programme to offer universal optional testing and counseling to every citizen in the country of Lesotho



The government of Lesotho has also started a proactive initiative called “know your status” to test every person in the country for HIV if the person wants to be tested. The testing program is being funded by the Clinton Foundation and aims to start in June of 2006.

I'm sure that all the AIDS activists will be relieved to find that all the predictions of the depopulation of African countries due to AIDS, at least for Lesotho, will finaly be realised in about another 5 - 10 years. The lack of population reduction certainly must be embarrassing for them at the moment, considering all the predictions of doom made about Africa for the last 15 to 20 years. I'm sure they'll find that sadly, alas, their response to the deadly anal pandemic will be just too late. This will make it even more important to provide universal testing for the rest of Africa.

I think I heard Stephen say something about "Counselors Without Borders".


OMG, another CIA "Without Borders" project. If my memory serves me correctly, I remember the mainstream media promoting the importance and necessity of counselors in regard to natural disasters etc. This is getting spooky.

As far as the U.S.A. is concerned, there will never be compulsary HIV testing, (except maybe in prison) but it will become more widely available. If it was mandatory, too many of the wrong people will become "positive". They'll just continue to use PsyOps aimed at the gays, blacks and liberals, which are quite effective.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just wondering when Stephen Lewis will finaly be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephen Lewis has already been knighted by the queen and there was an online petition to get him nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. It crazy that this monster is considered a noble man out to save the world. :roll:
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just go over this list of Nobel Peace Prize winners, especially for the last 30 years or so.


Stephen Lewis is a perfect candidate.
I'm surprised I couldn't find L. Ron Hubbard in the list.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was looking at that Nobel Peace Prize list, about the only name on the list, of the top 30 which I didn't know to be evil or corrupt, was Mother Tereasa. I've never thought much of Mother Tereasa. Until now, I always just assumed that she was a nice old lady.

By chance, the night I posted that peace prize list, there was a documentry on the TV about Mother Tereasa. There were countless mainstream journalists and world leaders commenting on how great and "inspirational" she was. This caught my attention and aroused some suspicion, so I continued to watch. Then I saw her kissing the hand of Pope John Paul II, who had a pretty bad reputation for sucking cock for the CIA. This in it's self isn't too surprising since she was a Catholic, but it was still quite sickening.
The next thing I saw was them talking about how "inspirational" she was in overcoming the stigma of HIV. She was the first major HIV/AIDS advocate in India.

Why am I not surprised??????

Looks like Richard Gere's taken over that job since here death I suppose.

So, I did a little searching, and came across a very interesting critical article on Mother Tereasa. It also has some very interesting references to Jesus, or "Issa". I found this article very informative, and it didn't carry the bias which I have with regard to AIDS. Maybe Richard Gere will one day become a saint, if it's possible for a Buddhist.


Some follow up reading~


I wonder if this has any connection with the great interest the Nazis had in this region. They did promote Jesus as some kind of great Aryan. The mainsteam media and historians always promote the Nazi's interest in this field as Satanic, or to be about their roots in the occult. Anyway, I'm not an expert at history or theology, so I can't come to any solid conclusion at the moment. It's amazing what you can find, once you have a small piece of truth.

Back to mandatory testing. I was just thinking about my opinion with regard to the U.S.A. I was thinking that mandatory testing would be impossible since too many people would become suspicious with all the false positives. Maybe I underestimate the psychological power of a mass suicide cult. If there were mandatory testing, I can just imagine the great increase in demand for psychologists, or counselors to help all the HIV+ blacks deal with their denial due to the great "stigma" associated with the deadly anal virus. 'specially the ones claiming to be virgins. Apparently the blacks in the U.S. are also in denial about homosexuality in thier community. lol


So creepy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try watching this episode from the award winning series, "Live With It"

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just thought these google videos might be interesting to some people


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mother Tereasa makes me wanna gag. She use to bend over and tell starving people god loves them... Why not tell them about how AIDS inc. is working to destroy their country. Why not give them the gift of truth.
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