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skinters



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

je-demande wrote:
skinters wrote:
je-demande wrote:
skinters wrote:
je-demande wrote:
I am not saying every mass shooting is a hoax


Yeah you do.

Name a mass shooting that you think was not a hoax.



Please tidy your Room and leave this Kinna stuff to the grown ups.


Just admit you've been found out here on the forum as nothing more than a hack conspiracy theorist, and a bad one at that. I'm going call out your bs every opportunity I get.


"Admit"? Hehe!! so now you're a Cathy Newman echo chamber! Bravo!


Admit it, you think every mass shooting is a hoax.

Oh by the way not only is Richie Allen an idiot like you say, he's also hand In glove with Alex Jones....any more Bs you would care to offer up?.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I find it odd that no empty head teenagers who live on their mobiles DIDN'T upload any photos of dead classmates. Maybe all the popular kids got popped. Maybe the geeks...who knows, who cares really. They are cannon fodder for distract politics. Distract from the MOB running the USA at the present moment. And then we have to hear about the poor Jew; 8% of the local pop'l but about 50% or more of the student body at this 'school'...poor us. Another tired dead horse.

Not one photo of a bullet ridden classmate on snap-chat or Instagram? Really.

Maybe some people died...like I said who cares.

But this is very interesting:
https://player.vimeo.com/video/256864311 (iframe embed code does not work here; they do not have video up on YouTube channel yet)

A CNN intern posing as a student activist, posing as a survivor in the closet somewhere in complete dark....but turns his phone on while hiding in a closet???

And the second asshole mouthpiece whose father appears to be an agency cutout, pedophile creep-show. These are CNN's mouthpieces for this event. Sad commentary CNN - do your homework/or you are in fact a spook network. Oh nobody watches CNN anymore but it refuses to go away.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably meaningless, but at the White House listening town hall meeting one student (the kid with a beard) was sobbing about losing his friends but I saw no tears nor was his nose running, like he was acting.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not one photo of a bullet ridden classmate on snap-chat or Instagram? Really.



Look how photos of the Vegas shooter went down. It's not him, the blood looks wrong, the spent shells got not blood on them, and scattered funny.

You guys wanting to see dead bodies still don't believe them when you see them.

You expect kids scared shitless to stop, and take pictures of dead classmates?. Put your self in that situation, I know I could, and there's no way in hell id take any pictures, and then have the stupidity to load them up on the internet. How do you think people would react to that, and you for doing it?.

I'll ask the question je-asshat failed to answer,

Do you think this shooting is a hoax, and the whole school is in on it?. I think you already know the answer, but can't step out of your own conspiracy box to see it.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jimbo wrote:
Probably meaningless, but at the White House listening town hall meeting one student (the kid with a beard) was sobbing about losing his friends but I saw no tears nor was his nose running, like he was acting.


I've lost People in the past, and never cried over it.

Do you think it was a hoax, and the whole school was in on it?.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skinters wrote:
Jimbo wrote:
Probably meaningless, but at the White House listening town hall meeting one student (the kid with a beard) was sobbing about losing his friends but I saw no tears nor was his nose running, like he was acting.


I've lost People in the past, and never cried over it.

Do you think it was a hoax, and the whole school was in on it?.


No, but to a conspiracy-minded guy like me when a person talks of sad shit with hiccups, sighs and mournful looks, as if he were crying and there are no tears, and having seen the Sandy Hook fake tears Dad, I just thought I'd fuck up shit with this one observation. Carry on with your sewing back the of the dissection.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skinters wrote:
je-demande wrote:
skinters wrote:
je-demande wrote:
skinters wrote:
je-demande wrote:
I am not saying every mass shooting is a hoax


Yeah you do.

Name a mass shooting that you think was not a hoax.



Please tidy your Room and leave this Kinna stuff to the grown ups.


Just admit you've been found out here on the forum as nothing more than a hack conspiracy theorist, and a bad one at that. I'm going call out your bs every opportunity I get.


"Admit"? Hehe!! so now you're a Cathy Newman echo chamber! Bravo!


Admit it, you think every mass shooting is a hoax.

Oh by the way not only is Richie Allen an idiot like you say, he's also hand In glove with Alex Jones....any more Bs you would care to offer up?.


So what you're saying is you have homo erotic fantasies about conspiracy theorists and you project those fantasies unto anyone who calls a mass shooting a hoax and then troll them to get their attention, ok say no more I get it!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I'm over on the BBC site perusing the Syria news and there's a video with a warning that the video contains disturbing images. I didn't want to watch. Probably has a dead body or two, lots of bullet holes and bomb craters but it is all shown to let us news consumers have a better idea of what is happening. (Assad bad!) That's okay, right? But, for some reason showing violent, disturbing images and movies from Las Vegas, Florida, Manchester, etc., are insensitive toward the victims and families.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Missing Surveillance Video. Ensconced in a locale boasting a $600,000 media property value. Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School is among the most modern and well-funded in Florida. Like other schools throughout the state, the campus was equipped with a comprehensive video monitoring system of buildings' interior passages and exterior walkways. The Broward County School District is withholding video taken during the February 14, 2018 mass shooting at the school that could reveal exactly how the event transpired. It appears that some video may have been obtained by the Miami Herald, which posted it with the headline, "Video Shows Blood-Smeared Floor, Body Inside Douglas Classroom." The article has since been removed from the newspaper's website.


2. Scripted Lines? A Stoneman Douglas high school junior and ROTC member, Colton Haab, who sought to participate in a CNN TownHall broadcast on February 21, claimed the cable network provided him with a list of "scripted questions." "I expected to be able to ask my questions and give my opinions on my questions," Haab explained to local ABC affiliate, WPLG-TV. "CNN had originally asked me to write a speech and questions, and it ended up being all scripted."

Shortly thereafter Haab stated on FoxNews that based on his experience he believed all of the questions asked by Stoneman Douglas students and community members at the CNN TownHall were scripted.

3. Manufactured Dissent? Stoneman Douglas High students impacted by the event were rapidly mobilized by Democratic political leaders to advocate for the Party's foremost rallying cries-strengthened gun control laws. News media including CNN and state and federal Democratic Party operatives, including Florida Representative and former Democratic Party National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz, advised key Stoneman students in organizing the #NeverAgain movement and arranging protests, including a lobbying trip to Tallahassee to meet with Florida legislators. Parkland, however, is represented by Democratic Representative Ted Deutch, another staunch gun control advocate.
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According to the New Yorker, Wasserman Schultz and her aides touched base with Stoneman junior and NeverAgain leader-in-training Jaclyn Corin on February 15-one day after the shooting. "Conversations with state representatives followed, and preliminary arrangements were made to bus a hundred Douglas students and fifteen chaperones to Tallahassee to address the state legislature. Yesterday, I asked Corin if she had been politically active before the shooting. 'Not even a little bit,' she said."

Corin appears especially astute having absolutely no previous experience in issue-oriented politics. "The action has been so quick," the 17-year-old told the Naples Daily News. "And that's necessary because this is a fresh and open wound and we can't let it close up. We need to do something about it before it just disappears like it always has."

4. Experts Speak Out. Those with military and school administrative experience have begun to step forward and question various troubling elements of the Stoneman Douglas shooting. For example, John Bouchell, a militarily trained weapons expert, security expert and school administrator based in Florida tweeted at length about how Parkland differed greatly from his own experiences defending his school during an active shooter event.

5. Reports of Multiple Shooters. In numerous interviews, Stoneman Douglas students asserted there was more than one shooter in Building 12 as the event proceeded. Parkland student Jalen Martin claims the United States Secret Service visited the high school's campus weeks before the incident, altering the active shooter response protocol. Is this why Douglas school resource officer and Sheriff's Deputy Scot Peterson remained outside the classroom building as the carnage ensued? Another student claimed she saw and spoke to alleged shooter Nikolas Cruz in Building 12 during the event [and heard shots emanating from elsewhere.] A Stoneman Douglas teacher told MSNBC faculty were informed there would be an active shooter drill sometime during the spring semester, but were left in the dark as to the actual date or time of the exercise.

6. Crime Scene Demolition. Less than two days after the tragic shooting Broward County Schools Superintendent Robert Runcie proposed demolishing Building 12--the crime scene itself. The Florida State Legislature almost immediately agreed to help fund the teardown. One must ask why, just hours after the brutal deaths of 17 youths, plans for evidence destruction and a new memorial are even being pondered. "Just looking at that building and talking about it now, I have goosebumps out to my head [sic]," Runcie said. "I don't know how teachers, students could get back in that building. I don't even know how we're going to open the whole campus, period." Stoneman Douglas will join a long line of mass casualty event scenes, including Columbine, Aurora, and Sandy Hook, that have been destroyed.

7. Abandoned Law Enforcement Protocols. On the afternoon of February 14, Stoneman Douglas school resource officer and Broward Sheriff's Deputy Scot Peterson heard gunshots in Building 12 and rushed there but waited outside for four minutes as the massacre ensued. Broward Sheriff Scott Israel, who could not explain Peterson's behavior, acknowledged Peterson's inaction was captured in campus surveillance video and suspended the deputy without pay.

Israel thereafter told the press, "We're not going to disclose the video at this time and we may never disclose the video." Two additional deputies under Israel's command Edward Eason and Guntis Treijs, were placed on administrative duties pending further investigation. Both deputies participated in 23 calls for service to Cruz's home and may not have followed protocol...."I'm completely disgusted," said Broward County Commissioner Michael Udine, a former mayor of Parkland whose daughter attends Stoneman Douglas. "There is nobody in authority talking to each other and every organization that had a chance to stop this completely failed our children from top to bottom."

8. Fight to Establish Official Narrative. There is a very well-defined struggle to establish and defend the official government/law enforcement narrative of the Stoneman Douglas mass shooting and prevent any questioning of this storyline. This campaign is being led in part by cable news giant and Time Warner subsidiary CNN. Alternative media have been banished from YouTube for sharing differing views and analyses of the Parkland shooting and earlier mass casualty events. A recent "Community Guidelines" policy change provides for the Google subsidiary to eliminate any videos it perceives as "targeting the victims of tragedies," thus de facto censoring many important critical analyses of such events.

On February 23 CNN directly petitioned YouTube to shut down a channel run by libertarian commentator Alex Jones, claiming that its alternative reportage and commentary on the Parkland shooting runs afoul of YouTube's policies....Such advocacy toward eliminating a media competitor and defending an official government narrative of such a controversial and still-unfolding event is especially concerning.

In another instance, Isaac Green, a thoughtful and popular commentator running the Anti-School YouTube channel who proffered an array of unconventional perspectives on Stoneman Douglas and political controversies, had all of his videos removed by YouTube. Shortly thereafter Google locked Green out of his account entirely.

9. FBI Involvement. Ongoing internal investigations on law enforcement responses to the threats Cruz posed already reveal how the FBI alongside local law enforcement repeatedly failed to follow up on reports of the supposed assailant's unusual behavior, weapons ownership, and disturbing online media posts. The FBI's failure in this regard was condemned by Florida Governor Rick Scott and the US Justice Department. The bureau admitted an individual close to Cruz phoned the FBI's Public Access Line on January 5 to report information concerning Cruz's gun ownership, desire to kill people, unpredictable behavior and ominous social media posts. The party also stated that Cruz could likely carry out a mass shooting. The information was never forwarded to the FBI's Miami office and investigated further.
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(Crisis actor boot camp)

Or was it? According to investigative journalist Trevor Aaronson, throughout the so-called "War on Terror" the FBI has been directly involved in cultivating terrorists through its network of informants, and often encouraging their activities. "Our nation's top law enforcement agency, traditionally focused on investigating crimes after they occur," writes Aaronson, "now operates more as an intelligence organization that tries to preempt crimes before they occur. But how many of these would-be terrorists would have acted were it not for an FBI agent provocateur helping them?" Was Cruz manipulated to take up arms against his Stoneman Douglas peers? Or, was he somehow maneuvered to the scene, as the observations of one eyewitness suggests, while other more capable gunmen carried out the slaughter?

10. Antipsychotic Drugs. According to the Florida Department of Children and Families, Nikolas Cruz was receiving mental health services from Henderson Behavioral Health and accordingly "taking medication" for alleged psychiatric ailments. In 2016 Cruz's adoptive mother Lynda Cruz stated that her son suffered from depression, ADHD, and autism, suggesting how Cruz was regularly consuming a cocktail of potent drugs that may have impacted his behavior and judgment prior to the shooting. The psychoactive drugs used to treat depression and ADHD have profoundly complex and potentially debilitating side effects when taken separately that are only compounded if administered in unison. These include agitation, hyperactivity, psychosis, and are further linked to suicidal and homicidal actions.

Given the mass media's heavy dependence on drug company advertising, the role that psychiatric drugs may play in mass shootings is almost always downplayed in reportage on such events. "The drugs aren't the only causative factor," journalist and author Jon Rappoport observes, "but they produce what I call the Johnny Appleseed effect throughout society. Sprinkle enough of the drugs among enough people and you get otherwise unexplainable violence popping up--in schools, in workplaces. The psychiatric plague eats out the country from the inside."
https://www.henrymakow.com/2018/02/Ten-Reasons-Parkland-Narrative-Stinks.html

https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=MR6K594OU5M2

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

je-demande wrote:
skinters wrote:
je-demande wrote:
skinters wrote:
je-demande wrote:
skinters wrote:
je-demande wrote:
I am not saying every mass shooting is a hoax


Yeah you do.

Name a mass shooting that you think was not a hoax.



Please tidy your Room and leave this Kinna stuff to the grown ups.


Just admit you've been found out here on the forum as nothing more than a hack conspiracy theorist, and a bad one at that. I'm going call out your bs every opportunity I get.


"Admit"? Hehe!! so now you're a Cathy Newman echo chamber! Bravo!


Admit it, you think every mass shooting is a hoax.

Oh by the way not only is Richie Allen an idiot like you say, he's also hand In glove with Alex Jones....any more Bs you would care to offer up?.


So what you're saying is you have homo erotic fantasies about conspiracy theorists and you project those fantasies unto anyone who calls a mass shooting a hoax and then troll them to get their attention, ok say no more I get it!


I know all the conspiracies. I also know false flag events etc exsist, and happen often. Im also able to take each account on its own merit, and not think everything is a hoax. What's so difficult in answering a simple question?. Why obsfucate, and be defensive?.

To be honest I don't give a shit what you think, but when you say you don't think all mass shootings are hoax, and when asked to name one that you think was not a hoax you can't. So your position is a closed book on the topic, and that's all I'm saying.

Further what's the point in asking questions or having an opinion only not have them challenged. Maybe you could learn something about yourself along the way.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jimbo wrote:
skinters wrote:
Jimbo wrote:
Probably meaningless, but at the White House listening town hall meeting one student (the kid with a beard) was sobbing about losing his friends but I saw no tears nor was his nose running, like he was acting.


I've lost People in the past, and never cried over it.

Do you think it was a hoax, and the whole school was in on it?.


No, but to a conspiracy-minded guy like me when a person talks of sad shit with hiccups, sighs and mournful looks, as if he were crying and there are no tears, and having seen the Sandy Hook fake tears Dad, I just thought I'd fuck up shit with this one observation. Carry on with your sewing back the of the dissection.


I can slip on the conspiracy hat myself, but I'm also self critical, and honest with what's in front of me.

There's a part of me that's fucked off with the same old tired everything is a hoax angle. I'm not going to pretend somethings there when it's not.

Jimbo wrote:
That's okay, right? But, for some reason showing violent, disturbing images and movies from Las Vegas, Florida, Manchester, etc., are insensitive toward the victims and families.


We don't on the whole give a fuck about brown people dying over there so yeah why not use it to fulfill any political aims.

Even after saying in an earlier post you don't think it's a hoax you can't seem to switch off mate?.

The whole school would have had to be in on it. That fact smashes any 'evidence' people think they have it's a hoax.
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