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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:22 pm    Post subject: North Korea the Aggressor? A Reality Check Reply with quote

I remember reading years ago that the US killed a third of all Koreans and destroyed every third house during the Korean War which they started.

But hey they must be the bad guys still because they hate our way of life like Al Qaeda right?

"Not only did the allies drop more bombs on Korea than in the Pacific theater during World War II – 635,000 tons, versus 503,000 tons – more of what fell was napalm … ‘
Two buildings left standing
In the North Korean capitol, Pyongyang, just two buildings were reported as still standing".


Not really interested whether Vets today is a CIA front the information is still real.
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North Korea an Aggressor? A Reality Check
By GPD on August 30, 2017
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Pravda
North Korea the Aggressor? A Reality Check
” … war in our time is always indiscriminate, a war against innocents, a war against children.” (Howard Zinn, 1922-2010.)
“All war represents a failure of diplomacy.” (Tony Benn, MP. 1925-2014.)
“No country too poor, too small, too far away, not to be threat, a threat to the American way of life.” (William Blum, “Rogue State.”)
The mention of one tiny country appears to strike at the rationality and sanity of those who should know far better. On Sunday, 6th August, for example, The Guardian headed an editorial: “The Guardian view on sanctions: an essential tool.” Clearly the average of five thousands souls a month, the majority children, dying of “embargo related causes” in Iraq, year after grinding year – genocide in the name of the UN – for over a decade has long been forgotten by the broadsheet of the left.
This time of course, the target is North Korea upon whom the United Nations Security Council has voted unanimously to freeze, strangulate and deny essentials, normality, humanity. Diplomacy as ever, not even a consideration. The Guardian, however, incredibly, declared the decimating sanctions: “A rare triumph of diplomacy …” (Guardian 6th August 2017.)
As US Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, the US’ top “diplomat” and his North Korean counterpart Ri Yong-ho headed for the annual Ministerial meeting of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) in Manila on 5thAugust, a State Department spokesperson said of Tillerson: “The Secretary has no plans to meet the North Korean Foreign Minister in Manila, and I don’t expect to see that happen”
Trump’s buried opportunities
Pathetic. In April, approaching his hundredth day in office, Trump said of North Korea: “We’d love to solve things diplomatically but it’s very difficult.” No it is not. Talk, walk in the other’s psychological shoes. Then, there they were at the same venue but the Trump Administration clearly does not alone live in a land of missed opportunities, but of opportunities deliberately buried in landfill miles deep. This in spite of his having said in the same statement: “There is a chance that we could end up having a major, major conflict with North Korea. Absolutely.”
A bit of perspective: 27th July 2017 marked sixty four years since the armistice agreement that ended the devastating three year Korean war, however there has never been a peace treaty, thus technically the Korean war has never ended. Given that and American’s penchant for wiping out countries with small populations which pose them no threat (think most recently, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya) no wonder North Korea wishes to look as if it has some heavy protective gear behind the front door, so to speak.
Tiny North Korea has a population of just 25.37 million and landmass of 120,540 km² (square kilometres.) The US has a population of 323.1 million and a landmass of 9.834 MILLION km² (square kilometres.) Further, since 1945, the US is believed to have produced some 70,000 nuclear weapons – though now down to a “mere” near 7,000 – but North Korea is a threat?
America has fifteen military bases in South Korea – down from a staggering fifty four – bristling with every kind of weapons of mass destruction. Two bases are right on the North Korean border and another nearly as close. See full details of each, with map at (1.)
North Korea also has the collective memory of the horror wrought by the US in the three year conflict on a country then with a population of just 9.6 million souls. US General Curtis Lemay in the aftermath stated: “After destroying North Korea’s seventy eight cities and thousands of her villages, and killing countless numbers of her civilians … Over a period of three years or so we killed off – what – twenty percent of the population.”
“It is now believed that the population north of the imposed 38th Parallel lost nearly a third its population of 8 – 9 million people during the 37-month long ‘hot’ war, 1950 – 1953, perhaps an unprecedented percentage of mortality suffered by one nation due to the belligerence of another.”
In context: “During The Second World War the United Kingdom lost 0.94% of its population, France lost 1.35%, China lost 1.89% and the US lost 0.32%. During the Korean war, North Korea lost close to 30 % of its population.” (Emphasis added.)
“We went over there and fought the war and eventually burned down every town in North Korea anyway, some way or another …”, boasted Lemay.
Gen. Douglas MacArthur said during a Congressional hearing in 1951 that he had never seen such devastation.
“I shrink with horror that I cannot express in words … at this continuous slaughter of men in Korea,” MacArthur said. “I have seen, I guess, as much blood and disaster as any living man, and it just curdled my stomach, the last time I was there.” (CNN, 28th July 2017.) Horrified as he was, he did not mention the incinerated women, children, infants in the same breath.
Moreover, as Robert M. Neer wrote in “Napalm, an American Biography”:
‘ “Practically every U.S. fighter plane that has flown into Korean air carried at least two napalm bombs,” Chemical Officer Townsend wrote in January 1951. About 21,000 gallons of napalm hit Korea every day in 1950. As combat intensified after China’s intervention, that number more than tripled (…) a total of 32,357 tons of napalm fell on Korea, about double that dropped on Japan in 1945. Not only did the allies drop more bombs on Korea than in the Pacific theater during World War II – 635,000 tons, versus 503,000 tons – more of what fell was napalm … ‘
Two buildings left standing
In the North Korean capitol, Pyongyang, just two buildings were reported as still standing.
In the unending history of US warmongering, North Korea is surely the smallest population they had ever attacked until their assault on tiny Grenada in October 1983, population then just 91,000 (compulsory silly name: “Operation Urgent Fury.)
North Korea has been taunted by the US since it lay in ruins after the armistice sixty five years ago, yet as ever, the US Administration paints the vast, self appointed “leader of the free world” as the victim.
As Fort-Russ pointed out succinctly (7th August 2017): “The Korean Peninsula is in a state of crisis not only due to constant US threats towards North Korea, but also due to various provocative actions, such as Washington conducting joint military exercises with Seoul amid tensions, and which Pyongyang considered a threat to its national security.”
This month “massive land, sea and air exercises” involving “tens of thousands of troops” from the US and South Korea began on 21st of August and continue until 31st. ‘In the past, the practices are believed to have included “decapitation strikes” – trial operations for an attempt to kill Kim Jong-un and his top Generals …’, according to the Guardian (11th August 2017.) The obligatory stupid name chosen for this dangerous, belligerent, money burning, sabre rattling nonsense is Ulchi-Freedom Guardian. It is an annual occurrence since first initiated back in 1976.
US B-1B bombers flying from Guam recently carried out exercises in South Korea and “practiced attack capabilities by releasing inert weapons at the Pilsung Range.” In a further provocative (and illegal) move, US bombers were again reported to overfly North Korea, another of many such bullying, threatening actions, reportedly eleven just since May this year.
Yet in spite of all, North Korea is the “aggressor.”
“The nuclear warheads of United States of America are stored in some twenty one locations, which include thirteen U.S. states and five European countries … some are on board U.S. submarines. There are some “zombie” nuclear warheads as well, and they are kept in reserve, and as many as 3,000 of these are still awaiting their dismantlement. (The US) also extends its “nuclear umbrella” to such other countries as South Korea, Japan, and Australia.” (worldatlas.com)
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov who also attended the ASEAN meeting in Manila, did of course, do what proper diplomats do and talked with his North Korean counterpart Ri Yong-ho. Minister Lavrov’s opinion was summed up by a Fort Russ News observer as:
“The Korean Peninsula is in a state of crisis not only due to constant US threats towards North Korea, but also due to various provocative actions, such as Washington conducting joint military exercises with Seoul amid tensions, and which Pyongyang considered a threat to its national security.”
The “provocative actions” also include the threatening over-flights by US ‘planes flying from Guam. However when North Korea said if this continued they would consider firing missiles in to the ocean near Guam – not as was reported by some hystericals as threatening to bomb Guam – Agent Orange who occasionally pops in to the White House between golf rounds and eating chocolate cake whilst muddling up which country he has dropped fifty nine Tomahawk Cruise missiles on, responded that tiny North Korea will again be: “… met with fire and fury and frankly power, the likes of which the world has never seen before.”
It was barely noticed that North Korea qualified the threat of a shot across the bows by stating pretty reasonably:
(The US) “should immediately stop its reckless military provocation against the State of the DPRK so that the latter would not be forced to make an unavoidable military choice.” (3)
As Cheryl Rofer continued, instead of endless threats, US diplomacy could have many routes:
“We could have sent a message to North Korea via the recent Canadian visit to free one of their citizens. We could send a message through the Swedish embassy to North Korea, which often represents US interests. We could arrange some diplomatic action on which China might take the lead. There are many possibilities, any of which might show North Korea that we are willing to back off from practices that scare them if they will consider backing off on some of their actions. That would not include their nuclear program explicitly at this time, but it would leave the way open for later.”
There are in fact, twenty four diplomatic missions in all, in North Korea through which the US could request to communicate – or Trump could even behave like a grown up and pick up the telephone.
Siegfried Hecker is the last known American official to inspect North Korea’s nuclear facilities. He says that treating Kim Jong-un as though he is on the verge of attacking the U.S. is both inaccurate and dangerous.
“Some like to depict Kim as being crazy – a madman – and that makes the public believe that the guy is undeterrable. He’s not crazy and he’s not suicidal. And he’s not even unpredictable. The real threat is we’re going to stumble into a nuclear war on the Korean Peninsula.”
Trump made his crass “fire and fury” threat on the eve of the sixty second commemoration of the US nuclear attack on Nagasaki, the nauseating irony seemingly un-noticed by him.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/08/30/north-korea-an-aggressor-a-reality-check/

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting and not at all surprising.

For those who believe in the existence of nuclear weapons (I do not) 'North Korea-scare' is a great psych-op!

I wonder what the NWO plan is here? Invasion? Does N Korea lack a private central bank that is part of the global usury banking 'system'?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MichaelC wrote:
Interesting and not at all surprising.

For those who believe in the existence of nuclear weapons (I do not) 'North Korea-scare' is a great psych-op!

I wonder what the NWO plan is here? Invasion? Does N Korea lack a private central bank that is part of the global usury banking 'system'?


Perhaps N Korea may be the proof that Nukes exist Michael?

They are comparable with the likes of Iraq & Libya in size & population etc...

So if they don't get laid to waste again one might argue Nukes do in fact exist.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We will soon see if N. Korea has nukes.

If they are attacked they will release everything they have.

What needs to happen is the US to pull up a chair and talk to them properly. Then pull out of the south, and help both sides peacefully...Ain't going to happen.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:23 am    Post subject: US sanctions on N Korea similar to Japan before P Harbour Reply with quote

My point here is that MSM have removed any historical context from the narrative. They never mention the Genocide of the Koreans.

If the US killed a third of your entire nation it would be "Normal" or at least understandable that you hated them.

Yet they are presented as crazy.

The US sanctions on N Korea are similar to that of Japan before Pearl Harbour.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really sure about the origin of 'communist' N Korea. Was it started and still owned by the same international usury banking criminals who took Russia in 1917 and still own it? Then why did these same criminals, through their stooges(aka US government) attack N Korea in 1950?

It is all very confusing.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:35 pm    Post subject: North Korea: What can actually be done? Reply with quote


North Korea: What can actually be done to deal with a nuclear Pyongyang?

From the first tweak of the seismograph it was clear this was no ordinary tremor — it signalled the most powerful bomb of all.

The North Korean TV newsreader announced with a flourish this was the state's first hydrogen bomb. If that now means Pyongyang has the weapon and the delivery system that could wipe out a Los Angeles, a San Francisco or a Sydney in a flash, then the world is now a different place.

Nuclear weapons are supposed to be a deterrent — make yourself so dangerous no-one will ever dare challenge you.

Clearly the thinking for three generations of Kim is that the regime is made safe if everyone fears you. And the clear impression you are crazy helps too — no-one wants to aggravate a disturbed mind.

But what to do? US President Donald Trump has described the test as hostile and dangerous and said Pyongyang "only understands one thing".
More...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-03/north-korea-is-it-time-to-accept-it-will-remain-a-nuclear-threat/8868138

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think back to the 'red scares' of the 1950s and 1960s and the 'atom bomb scares' from same period.

The Master criminals are running out of new tricks to deceive you and so are recycling some some old tired CIA disinfo rags from 50 years ago on the theory that the present generation would not remember the past.

Don't buy it.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MichaelC wrote:
Why did these same criminals, through their stooges(aka US government) attack N Korea in 1950?

It is all very confusing.


1/Arms sales.(via fear)

2/Immigration.(White Genocide)

MichaelC wrote:
Think back to the 'red scares' of the 1950s and 1960s and the 'atom bomb scares' from same period.

The Master criminals are running out of new tricks to deceive you and so are recycling some some old tired CIA disinfo rags from 50 years ago on the theory that the present generation would not remember the past.

Don't buy it.


If N Korea is a Nuclear Power and because of this it protects its people then one could argue that "Nukes Exist & Nukes are Good"

Maybe in years to come the world will have its own Constitution.

With the 2nd amendment being the right of every nation to have Nukes.

I think there would be less wars for sure. :-)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.google.es/search?q=nuclear+weapons+hoax&safe=off&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj3rePjuJbWAhWHbVAKHdI6APsQ_AUIDCgD&biw=1040&bih=668
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MichaelC wrote:
https://www.google.es/search?q=nuclear+weapons+hoax&safe=off&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj3rePjuJbWAhWHbVAKHdI6APsQ_AUIDCgD&biw=1040&bih=668

I don't believe the other "Earth is flat" CIA Hoax for a Minute Michael.
https://www.google.es/search?safe=off&dcr=0&biw=1280&bih=604&tbm=vid&q=flat+earth&oq=flat+earth&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l4.43821.99808.0.100024.31.20.0.0.0.0.204.1671.4j9j1.14.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..19.12.1480...0i5i30k1j0i8i30k1.wMVoz3uNYTc

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone researched the banking system in N Korea?

It could explain a lot of things..........
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