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MichaelC



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The French, along with most of Europe, made a pact with Satan (aka ECB.IMF, et al.) for "free everything for the rest of your life" by mortgaging their lives and property to the interest banks. All enabled by the bankers stooges, aka 'elected' officials. Now the bills are coming due and Satan is collecting his interest payments.
Probably this is the reason that the French military-intel, planing well in advance, organized the "terrorist" attacks of a couple of years ago..... to put France on a permanent military alert status.
The people have always had it in their power to stop this, cancel the public 'debt', abolish the ECB and forbid governments from borrowing money at interest, instead each country issuing it's own interest-free money. A dream perhaps but still possible.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The people have always had it in their power to stop this,
cancel the public 'debt', abolish the ECB and forbid governments
from borrowing money at interest, instead each country issuing
it's own interest-free money. A dream perhaps but still possible.


Well, whatever the outcome, the positive is that
the people on the protests are heartily sick of
the current order:

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Bruno Binelli, 66, a retired carpenter from Lyon, said: “I’m not in any political party. I often vote Front National, but I’m not Front National. It’s not my mentality – and besides, I’m Italian by origin – but I do it out of protest, to say things are not good, and if you continue like this we will end up electing someone from the extreme right.

“But they don’t listen to us. Macron listens to nothing. He’s suddenly concerned about ecology, but it’s a lie: it’s a pretext to make us pay more tax. We no longer know what kind of car to buy: petrol, diesel, electric, who knows? I have a little diesel van and I don’t have the money to buy a new one, especially as I’m about to retire. We have the feeling those from the countryside are forgotten.”

Many talked of desperation at trying to make ends meet. As they passed the designer stores off the Champs Élysées, their complaints over inequality appeared to strike a chord: TV pundits spoke of an “insurrection of the people against the elites”.

Polls suggest almost 80 per cent of French people support the yellow vests – so called because protestors wear the high-viz jackets which French motorists have to carry in their car. Even more think Mr Macron should abandon plans to impose even higher taxes on petrol and diesel.

“We’re here because we’ve had enough,” Joel Mouilleseaux, a 24-year-old student told the The Guardian. “It’s always the same people who have to pay for the madness of others.

“We have to work to pay, work some more to pay some more and it’s been like that for years. It’s been like it since I was born, president after president, and now we’re saying 'That’s enough'.

“I want to be heard, listened to and have a response.”



Another, Sylvie Poireau, a 46-year-old from a small town outside Paris, told the Daily Telegraph: "We’re made to pay higher taxes while they’ve scrapped the wealth tax on the rich. My daughter’s handicapped and I struggle at the end of every month to buy food.”

F​ar-left leader Jean-Luc Mélenchon warned about the potential consequences of not taking the yellow vests, known as the “gilet jaunes”, seriously: “History shows that when taxes are not accepted, that starts revolutions in France.”


Here's a translation from the French 'Le Monde' reporting on events:

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Rain of tear gas on the Place de l'Etoile

While the violent minority was behind, ready to fight with the CRS, the head of the procession reached the Place de l'Etoile, disturbing the traffic of cars. It was then that a shower of tear gas fell on the square, suffocating the entire neighborhood, including customers of restaurants and luxury hotels, as well as the passengers of the metro, evacuated in an emergency. Many people unaware of the manifestation of "yellow vests" came out in shock, crying. It was only 12:30.

All the "yellow vests" that Le Monde interviewed accused the CRS of too early and excessive repression. This, in their opinion, has aggravated the situation. All consider themselves in their good right to express their anger in Paris, and that even on avenues where the prefecture had not authorized their presence. "Even our protests they want to dictate where to do them? They already dictate us all our lives and they would dictate to us even how to be dissatisfied? says Jessica, 35, unemployed mother of two children. But if you manifest quietly in a nice little place, you think we will be heard? "


Further on, 42-year-old Isabelle, a caregiver who came directly after her night in the hospital, still testifies: "We have the right to be seen and heard! It's the CRS who are looking for us! It will not make us give up, on the contrary. We are more and more motivated and it will make us more and more angry. "It only fuels hatred," says Maxime, 21, a train driver. They gas us but we are pacifists. I hope that Macron will eventually listen to us and change the political axis. "

Some of those who were there dreamed of a new take of the Bastille, others of a new May 68. But all shared the observation of a Fifth Republic breathless, where to vote for people who "do not represent them and do not listen to them ", no longer makes sense.

"The power is dead of fear"

Captivated by the smoke that rises in the distance, Laurent, the computer scientist, whispers to himself: "It's incredible, I do not know how he managed to do that ..." He? "Macron! Honestly Holland he has increased everything and anything but he was friendly, cushy. There, in addition, Macron is contemptuous, threatening, insulting. It's over! Like Patrice, he thinks that "the power is dead of fear" in front of a movement become "uncontrollable". He suggests to his friends to return: "It will degenerate when it goes dark. "

Indeed, the rioters became more and more numerous, and active, after dark. Shop fronts were broken, looting took place, notably rue François-I, where the Givenchy shop was looted. In total, the police will make 62 arrests in Paris, out of 130 at the national level.



On the departure, we still cross Sandrine, 48, former commercial assistant today in disability. "In front of us we have a wall, nobody listens to us . And I hear ministers say we would be there because Le Pen said it? It's anything! We do not need political parties to know what we have to do. Just look at our bank account and we know what we have left on the 15th of the month! Still today in the streets of Paris, the "yellow vests" showed an incredible agreement despite sometimes opposing votes. A bit like this sacred union of these workers, who forget their disagreements when it comes to fighting the closure of their factory.

With her friend Christine, a dental assistant, she plans to return soon. "I saw that Macron was going to talk Tuesday on TV. But I expect nothing, said Christine. Will we be given help? But it's not the help we want, it's just living worthy of our salary.

New teargas hits them as they make their way onto the subway. Hiding her face, Christine tells Sandrine: "Next time, I bring masks! "

Until around 9 pm there was still a lot of tension on the avenue and around it. After midnight, calm returned. Traffic reopened partly on the avenue.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The satanists (aka ECB/IMF/FED, etc) have been whining for a 'carbon tax' forever. Has zero to do with ecology since the whole man made global warming thing is a $cam. The reason they want the carbon tax is to ensure payment of interest to them on the massive and exponentially growing public 'debts'.
BTW, Spain now pays 60 million euros each day in interest on public 'debt'.
That buys a lot of Rothschild mansions!


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is much more than the protests about fuel tax. Its the growing dissatisfaction of macrons policies in general.

I have absolutely no sympathy for the demonstrators. If you vote in a left wing leader you get left wing policies.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Salvini Takes Control of Europe’s Future

NOVEMBER 24, 2018 / TOM LUONGO

Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini just declared himself the leader of the Europe’s future. He refuses to budge one inch in negotiations with the European Union over Italy’s budget now threatening to take down the government.

And in doing this he not only speaks for Italians, he is now speaking for that growing part of the European population who sees what the EU is morphing into and recoiling in horror.

Protests in France over Emmanuel Macron’s new tax on diesel have turned violent. The British leadership has completely betrayed the people over Brexit. They may win this battle but the animosity towards the Britain’s leadership will only grow more virulent over time.

As the core leadership in France and Germany fades in popularity, held in place because of domestic political squabbling, Angela Merkel and Macron are ratcheting up the rhetoric against the rising nationalism Salvini represents and are now pushing hard for their Federation of Europe before both of them leave the scene in the next few years, at best.

If they lose their battles with Salvini and Hungary’s Viktor Orban they may be run out of office with pitchforks and firebrands.

Bernard Connelly, author of the brilliant expose The Rotten Heart of Europe (which should be required reading) asks the salient question about Brexit no one associated with Project Fear can confront.

If separation from the EU is so complicated, why was no one talking about blockades and economic catastrophe before the Scottish Independence referendum in 2014?

The answer is simple. No one in power expected the referendum to pass and when it didn’t the issue ended.


Now, back to Italy. Salvini can do make these bold threats because his Lega keeps rising in opinion polls every time he makes them.

From Zerohedge:

    Since then, Salvini has continued to pull ahead of Luigi Di Maio, the country’s other deputy premier, as the public face of hardline opposition to the EU. Salvini’s League party rose to 36.2% in voter intentions in November, the fourth straight poll showing an increase, according to an Ipsos survey in newspaper Corriere della Sera. Five Star, which emerged as the biggest single party in March’s general election, slipped to 27.7% this month, from 28.7% in October.


And that puts Salvini exactly where he wants to be, in the driver’s seat, directing the show down with Brussels over Italy’s future.

But it’s not just Italy’s future he’s playing for anymore. He knows that Italy is now the standard bearer for resistance to the EU’s particularly odious strain of technocracy. He soft-pedaled the issue of Italeave on the campaign trail because it was good politics.

Once in office he and his partner M5S’s Luigi Di Maio then went full-steam ahead with an economic package that was equal parts campaign promises fulfilled and a thumb in Merkel’s eye.

Salvini declared with Orban to develop a “League of Leagues” to storm the Bastille of the European Parliament in May’s elections.

And the more he does this the more popular he becomes.

But, more importantly, the more he and Di Maio stick to their guns the more Italians come to see Brussels as the enemy of their future. And make no mistake, they are looking at how Theresa “Gypsum Lady” May is delivering a Brexit of everyone’s nightmares to Britons and becoming more willing to face the dreaded ‘uncertainty’ breaking with the EU represents.

So Salvini threatening to take down the government he is currently the de facto leader of is a declaration of war against Brussels and the rest of the Italian political establishment who will try to work against him in budget and debt talks.

Lega is currently the junior partner in Italy’s government. Snap elections could easily see the party top 40% of the vote and have an almost insurmountable popular mandate for taking the confrontational approach to Brussels while scaring his coalition partners, M5S, into following him.

This is a major gambit by Salvini, and if he is successful he will become a lightning rod for Euroskeptics across Europe to break with Merkelism and the consolidation of power around Germany within the EU.


Italy’s debt problems are not solvable within the euro. Salvini understands this. The biggest impediment to his plans are the Italian people themselves. They have to come to the conclusion that the short-term pain of leaving the euro is worth the long-term benefits.

I don’t know if Salvini has made that case clearly enough for them to this point, but this is absolutely what he will have to do. It is something Theresa May refused to endorse any version of which is why she allowed Brexit talks to produce an agreement that was worse than the one Britain already has as a full-member of the EU.

The Goldman Angle

And here is where I’m going to shift gears on you a bit. Because it’s something we have to keep an eye one. There’s something serious brewing within Goldman-Sachs. Martin Armstrong has been all over the potential wipeout of Goldman as part of the European sovereign debt crisis.

Because we have 3 countries now bringing charges and/or suits against Goldman Sachs, it appears that this will mark the beginning of the end for the firm. When the Euro cracks, they will also be blamed for their role in Greece and the rest of Europe. Don’t forget that Mario Draghi is also ex-Goldman Sachs. When the Euro cracks, there will be a microscope applied to every communication that was ever carried out between Draghi and Goldman Sachs. Every trade they have pulled off will be inspected with its tentacles into the European bond market.

The now multi-country scandal involving Malaysia’s 1MDB fund and senior members of Goldman leaving positions of power, from former CEO Lloyd Blankfein to former Trump economic advisor Gary Cohn Europe’s future is tied directly to Goldman’s access to and abuse of power over the past generation.

And now the resignation of Andrea Vella Goldman’s co-head of Asian Investment Banking. The rot within (Goverment) Goldman Sachs runs deep. The destruction of Greec was all about protecting Goldman.

And even if there is no Goldman angle directly related to Italy’s debt and banking situation, which I very much doubt, remember formerPrime Minister Mario Monte, who was installed to stop Silvio Berlusconi from taking Italy out of the euro back in 2011.

I agree with Armstrong that it would be good for President Trump to rid his cabinet of any vestiges of Goldman’s gang, especially Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin, lest he get caught up in this, guilt-by-association style.

Because don’t think for one second that Salvini doesn’t know what the real story behind Italy’s debt is and who is hurt worst by exposing it to the vicissitudes of the market. At this point he’s daring Draghi to stop supporting Italian bond yields.

Let yields rise. Let’s find out who is behind the insolvent Italian banks swimming naked as the tide rolls out, liquidity dries up and the whole European debt market seizes up.

And if it’s Goldman again then then expect the biggest fight yet for the future of the EU. If Salvini plays it right, Italeave not Brexit becomes the clarion call for ending the Davos Crowd’s push for global control.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would be wonderful if Italy would leave the EU/euro ("leave means LEAVE"!), cancel its public 'debt' to the usurers, issue it's own interest-free money, and begin a new life as a proud and sovereign nation.
BTW, if I am not mistaken scriptures state that one owes no repayment to usurers?
Usury = lending of money at interest.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The British leadership has completely betrayed the people over Brexit.


Thats one helluva statement to make without knowing the obvious difficulties involved with leaving the EU.

Whats the alternative?.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="skinters"]
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The British leadership has completely betrayed the people over Brexit.


Thats one helluva statement to make without knowing the obvious difficulties involved with leaving the EU.

Whats the alternative?.[/quote

I don't understand, please explain....what are the "difficulties"?
I seem to recall the people in the UK doing just fine pre-EU. (As did the people in every other EU nation)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a glance at the anti-Brexit voices (NWO elite) should be enough to convince anyone.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="MichaelC"]
skinters wrote:
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The British leadership has completely betrayed the people over Brexit.


Thats one helluva statement to make without knowing the obvious difficulties involved with leaving the EU.

Whats the alternative?.[/quote

I don't understand, please explain....what are the "difficulties"?
I seem to recall the people in the UK doing just fine pre-EU. (As did the people in every other EU nation)


The whole process of leaving the EU has been difficult or should I say 'made' difficult by the pro EU elites. There's been an obvious effort to make sure that the UK doesn't have a better deal than what it had when a member.
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