Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:57 am Post subject: Re: 9 is the onliest number since the number 1

Peter wrote:

9 relates to the spirit and its mirror inverse is 6, the number of man. Two sixes make that omni--present 12. We are not numbers, but we can be counted on.

Heh he... absolutely! You can count on us all being ONE, so that's as far as anyone needs to count anyway! _________________ Relax, we're so much more than we beLIEve.

Reflect within, into the ever present mirror of linguistics and grow wise not old.

The opposite of death is a beginning-birth-NOT life! Life is everlasting; eternal cycles within cycles.

Those are some brilliant contributions.
I've hyperlinked them individually above.

Peter's succinctly expressed understanding of fundamental structure.
ManAtTheWindow comparing structural, individual & collective experience of time.
CosmicSojourner inferring the mathematical fabrics of the mirror plane.

We're zeroing in on this sucker. :-)
There's an unseen elephant here whose manifestation all sense.
One describes how it looks, another how it lives, another whence it came.

Recall how the intro video displayed the Reimann sphere
and posited that our experience is played out on the plane
underneath the sphere by mapping the sphere surface to
the plane -like a projector maps a movie to a silver screen:

Quote:

THE IMMORTAL SPHERE
[ Right click video when playing to activate looping]

A silver screen. What else has a silver screen? = A Mirror!

So our so-called 4D reality (3D+Time?)
is actually a holomorphic 3D quantum mirror plane.

The extra time dimension is the 3D turning inside out at light speed cubed.

The mirror plane shows up in all universal structures- in MANY ways.

Reimann himself showed us another manifestation of
the mirror plane which I quoted earlier in the thread:

Quote:

This is Killer. Beats the heck out of e=Mc2
This is scientifically, lyrically and holistically aware.
This is why Kepler:

Quote:

" Speaking analogically rather than geometrically, there exists among these
lines the following order, by reason of their properties: it passes from the
straight line through an infinity of hyperbolas to the parabola, and thence
through an infinity of ellipses to the circle.

" For the most obtuse of all hyperbolas is a straight line; the most acute,
a parabola. Likewise, the most acute of all ellipses is a parabola; the
most obtuse, a circle.

"Thus the parabola has on one side two things infinite in nature—the
hyperbola and the straight line—and on the other side, two things that
are finite and return to themselves—the ellipse and the circle.

"It itself holds itself in the middle place, with a middle nature. For it is
also infinite, but assumes a limitation from the other side, for the more
it is extended, the more it becomes parallel to itself, and does not expand
its arms (so to speak) like a hyperbola, but draws back from the embrace
of the infinite, always seeking less although it always embraces more.

"With the hyperbola, the more is actually embraced between the arms,
the more it also seeks. Therefore, the opposite limits are the circle and
the straight line: the former is pure curvedness, the latter pure straightness.

"The hyperbola, parabola, and ellipse are placed in between, and participate in the straight and the curved, the parabola equally, the hyperbola in more of the straightness, and the ellipse in more of the curvedness.

"The Parabola holds itself in the middle place, with a middle nature."

So I suppose you might call that the mirror plane then Johannes?

And now Cosmic Sojourner has another mirror plane and like the
Reimann sphere this is a "mapping" of one thing to another.
Congratulations dude, this from your post laying it out:

Quote:

In an earlier post here I laid out the symmetry angle for the automorphic (cyclical) number 142857142857... I contend the number 9 is fundamental to symmetry. It dovetails well with this:)

There are symmetry groups in automorphic forms; a spherical symmetry group with octahedral symmetry. The yellow region shows the fundamental domain.A regular tetrahedron has 12 rotational (or orientation-preserving) symmetries, and a symmetry order of 24 including transformations that combine a reflection and a rotation. Are these the 12 harmonics of a 12:5 Interference Pattern in 12-fold resonance in a 5-fold eggshell?

Where it gets interesting for me is with the spherical symmetry group with the tetrahedral symmetry

In mathematics, an automorphism is an isomorphism from a mathematical object to itself. It is, in some sense, a symmetry of the object, and a way of mapping the object to itself while preserving all of its structure. The set of all automorphisms of an object forms a group, called the automorphism group. It is, loosely speaking, the symmetry group of the object.~Wiki

If you are still trying to figure why this is important, here's a quote
about the isomorphism underlying the automorphism which CosSoj
has been posting about:

In mathematics, an isomorphism (from the Ancient Greek "equal",
and "form" or "shape") is a homomorphism or morphism
(i.e. a mathematical mapping) that admits an inverse.

Inside out. Mapping. Self-referentially, auto morphic. Mirror plane.

And all this comes up everywhere.
An omni-manifest phenomenon:

In abstract algebra, two basic isomorphisms are defined:

Group isomorphism, an isomorphism between groups
Ring isomorphism, an isomorphism between rings. (Isomorphisms between fields are actually ring isomorphisms)

Just as the automorphisms of an algebraic structure form a group, the isomorphisms between two algebras sharing a common structure form a heap. Letting a particular isomorphism identify the two structures turns this heap into a group.

In mathematical analysis, the Laplace transform is an isomorphism mapping hard differential equations into easier algebraic equations.

In category theory, let the category C consist of two classes, one of objects and the other of morphisms. Then a general definition of isomorphism that covers the previous and many other cases is: an isomorphism is a morphism ƒ: a → b that has an inverse, i.e. there exists a morphism g: b → a with ƒg = 1b and gƒ = 1a. For example, a bijective linear map is an isomorphism between vector spaces, and a bijective continuous function whose inverse is also continuous is an isomorphism between topological spaces, called a homeomorphism.

In graph theory, an isomorphism between two graphs G and H is a bijective map f from the vertices of G to the vertices of H that preserves the "edge structure" in the sense that there is an edge from vertex u to vertex v in G if and only if there is an edge from ƒ(u) to ƒ(v) in H. See graph isomorphism.

In mathematical analysis, an isomorphism between two Hilbert spaces is a bijection preserving addition, scalar multiplication, and inner product.

In early theories of logical atomism, the formal relationship between facts and true propositions was theorized by Bertrand Russell and Ludwig Wittgenstein to be isomorphic. An example of this line of thinking can be found in Russell's Introduction to Mathematical Philosophy.

In cybernetics, the good regulator or Conant–Ashby theorem is stated "Every good regulator of a system must be a model of that system". Whether regulated or self-regulating, an isomorphism is required between the regulator and processing parts of the system.

_________________ Minds are like parachutes.
They only function when open.

skinters:
Ive still to work out what the hell everyones talking about.

Well that's because it's like everybody has the job of figuring out
what car just drove by -when cars have yet to be invented and nobody's
ever seen a car before or has any remotest idea how one works or why.

So that can get kinda technical when you're still figuring it all out.
But the answers underpin a new understanding of life and reality.

We're pretty well advanced at a deep technical level of all this.

Mostly the challenge now is to select the minimum set of key ideas
which communicate it all the most simply and comprehensively.

In many ways the most complex part is making it all simple.

And if you think this is complex, actually it's already an achievement to
condense complexity into these by comparison relatively simple ideas.

The deeper reality is revealing itself all around us in the shape, sound
and cycles within the revolving landscape of seasons within life seasons.

Decoding it reveals our source, journey and destination. _________________ Minds are like parachutes.
They only function when open.

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If you are still trying to figure why this is important

Ive still to work out what the hell everyones talking about.

Maybe im not ready for that higher plane of existence everyones banging on about.

Isaac Newton, for all his brilliance, needed to see the apple fall, as simple as that was, to conceptualize a theory of gravity.

To solve a problem, you have to see it first.

I think you need a certain degree of intelligence for this kind of thing so that honestly rules me out. Ive played guitar for years, and although I can play the thing I've never understood the theory side of it. My brains just not wired for it, and just goes right over my head...Oh well I suppose I'll survive.

9 relates to the spirit and its mirror inverse is 6, the number of man. Two sixes make that omni--present 12. We are not numbers,

but we can be counted on.

To offer a response with more substance. NEYEN (9) relates to spirit through the octahedron nested within the center of a tetrahedron (1/2 points of 6 edges joined)-nested within the Vector Equilibrium-in it's compressed state. With two opposing equilateral triangles horizontal (3 & 6), 9 represents an axis of symmetry within the cube.

The ratio of the volume of the cube to the volume of the sphere is 6/Pi. Is this the 69 you speak of, assuming I am correct in equating 9 to Pi (Pi=180, 1+8+0=9)?

With two faces of the octahedron inside the tetrahedron taken by 3 and 6 (the two non-rotating faces during VE jitterbug motion with 9 as the axis through their centroid), do the vertices of the remaining faces of the octahedron represent the family number groups 741 and 825 from vortex based math?

Could this define the essence of the geometric trinity of vertex-edge-face (god-sun-holy spirit) that defines all Platonic Solids, all of "reality"?

Do the four faces above and the four faces below create the face of 3-6-9 betwixt which is dielectric manifestation on the cymatic accretion disk?

Is this the linear form of Fintan's curve-linear inside-out I-O sphere geometry?

See skinters, that's how you do it; just make it up

In all seriousness, I contend who and what you are already knows all this, it is inside you. Go inside and find it. There is an infinity within you. You are the event horizon between the infinitely large and the infinitely small!

Intuition is the only way to access this information because it is not measurable as required by the quantum particle quackery, only imaginable.

Having said that, it still takes work and sacrifice, as anything worth having. Perseverance pays, always.

All the secrets are in plain (plane) sight and there is NO coincidence... none. The seven Hermetic principles are great compass to navigate all the bullshit, including anything said above if it doesn't fit. _________________ Relax, we're so much more than we beLIEve.

Reflect within, into the ever present mirror of linguistics and grow wise not old.

The opposite of death is a beginning-birth-NOT life! Life is everlasting; eternal cycles within cycles.

Reimann himself showed us another manifestation of
the mirror plane

I must have stared at the Reiman GIF cumulatively for an hour since posted.

I can't help but associate the parabola/hyperboloid with electricity (dielectric) and the elipse to circle toroidal (magnetic).

Hints of the the 1 and the 8 as it twists over the surface of the sphere like a mobius are indicative of the hyper cube. This is important to my work, as is the ovoid with the nexus to the automorphism and Reinman geometry and natural and inverse logarithms. Could that hyperbolic geometry be based in those somehow?

Fintan wrote:

And now Cosmic Sojourner has another mirror plane and like the Reimann sphere this is a "mapping" of one thing to another.

Ah, but I contend these tetrahedron are circumscribed in a sphere ( special case of a torus). This is where Phi and the pentagram are introduced with VBM; another element I have not seen others tie together along with the correlation with Frank Chester's Chestahedron.

And perhaps the Platonic Solid Air (octahedron) in the center of the tetrahedron is the "8D quasi crystal" that Quantum Gravity Research Group refers to, if indirectly. Anyway, more information to connect to other information, well produced in terms of entertainment value:

Much more to share... to tie VBM to this. Really it is all about cycles and cycles in time are frequencies and frequencies are friction and friction is the fine structure constant that about sums it up. All of IT. _________________ Relax, we're so much more than we beLIEve.

Reflect within, into the ever present mirror of linguistics and grow wise not old.

The opposite of death is a beginning-birth-NOT life! Life is everlasting; eternal cycles within cycles.

Hints of the the 1 and the 8 as it twists over the surface of the sphere
like a mobius are indicative of the hyper cube. This is important to my
work, as is the ovoid with the nexus to the automorphism and Reiman
geometry and natural and inverse logarithms. Could that hyperbolic
geometry be based in those somehow?

This is the heart of everything.

I can't help but associate the parabola/hyperboloid with electricity (dielectric) and the elipse to circle toroidal (magnetic).

Check.

Perhaps the Platonic Solid Air (octahedron) in the center of the
tetrahedron is the that Quantum Gravity
Research Group refers to....

The octa would be the ultimate abstraction of the "8D quasi crystal".
Its source and destination.

Complexity throwing off a platonic as it disappears down the plughole.

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NEYEN (9) relates to spirit through the octahedron nested within the center of a tetrahedron (1/2 points of 6 edges joined)-nested within the Vector Equilibrium-in it's compressed state. With two opposing equilateral triangles horizontal (3 & 6), 9 represents an axis of symmetry within the cube.

The ratio of the volume of the cube to the volume of the sphere is 6/Pi. Is this the 69 you speak of, assuming I am correct in equating 9 to Pi (Pi=180, 1+8+0=9)?

With two faces of the octahedron inside the tetrahedron taken by 3 and 6 (the two non-rotating faces during VE jitterbug motion with 9 as the axis through their centroid), do the vertices of the remaining faces of the octahedron represent the family number groups 741 and 825 from vortex based math?

Could this define the essence of the geometric trinity of vertex-edge-face (god-sun-holy spirit) that defines all Platonic Solids, all of "reality"?

Do the four faces above and the four faces below create the face of 3-6-9 betwixt which is dielectric manifestation on the cymatic accretion disk?

For those that like spheres is this the particle-anti-particle dance of quantum fluctuation above and below the accretion disk reflecting from above, to below, to the plane of existence?

Is this the linear form of Fintan's curve-linear inside-out I-O sphere geometry?

There's a nested resonance and harmonic interaction of the very basic
mathematical potentialities and symmetries present in any moment.
So these concordances across various systemic levels are big clues.

Could this define the essence of the geometric trinity of vertex-edge-face
(god-sun-holy spirit) that defines all Platonic Solids, all of "reality"?

Let's examine these three.
All three are mirror planes.
Mental demonstration:

1. Stand in front of a mirror looking at your reflection.

2. Can you see one, two or three mirrors?

3. Yes, it's a sorta trick question.

Someone could say, I see 1 mirror = the one I'm looking in.

But , here's the thing:

A. Your ephemeral body seen in the mirror has 1 mirror plane.

B. And you can see directly your actual body has 1 mirror plane.

C. But now you can't actually see the physical mirror.
It disappears in the moment of holomorphic illusion.

A. The mirror your mind sees in mirror is The Mind.

B. The mirror directly seen in the body is The Physical.

C: The invisible mirror is Spirit - the mirror between the mind and matter.

Here, the same argument and logic - Justin Lawless shows
the containing outer sphere that is that invisible mirror wrapped
round the mind-matter torus:

Wow, I can't express enough my gratitude for having found your work and your forum. As touched upon before, so few have broken out of the prison of their minds that finding another that has context is a very rare experience, particularly to the depth you have graciously shared. So good to know that either my time has been properly invested down this rabbit whole, or we are both spinning our wheels... not likely. Though maybe indirectly;perhaps through cycles.

I very much appreciate you entertaining my musings with clarity and new perspectives. Loved the mirror breakdown.

Correction: I miss-typed on the Octahedron face "vertices" representing the family number groups 741 and 825. Should have been the face centroid, and should have added that the opposing faces in the octahedron are the polar pairs 7-2, 5-4, and 1-8, with digital rots of 9, same as the stationary 3 and 6, with 0 and 9 as the beginning and ending, resp, the Zero is the origin at the center of the tetrahedron/octahedron.

This is demonstrated in the numbered VE you posted, perhaps with full knowledge of the tie
Otherwise the 369 is at the vertices numbered 3-6-9-12

To further demonstrate the perceived association of VBM with Reinmann, the Bessel functions on circular drums:

Yes! and this is fundamental to the angle 108 in the Pythagorean triangle 1-Phi-1 and the 1-8 flux in VBM.

Are you verse with the ideas of Walter and Lao Russell? Their work also dovetails with VBM through the octet rule with valence electrons. Though his work is silent with regard to the tetrahedron/octahedron beyond the representation through the cube and obviously VBM was not included.

How about the genius that is Stan Tenen? He too is silent with regard to VBM but his work is very much representative.

Much gratitude Fintan. _________________ Relax, we're so much more than we beLIEve.

Reflect within, into the ever present mirror of linguistics and grow wise not old.

The opposite of death is a beginning-birth-NOT life! Life is everlasting; eternal cycles within cycles.

Well, the last graphic in your post above is a show stopper that gave me something to think about. For a week!

I've been busy with the rta0 launch but I've been studying that graphic and even leaving aside the intersections of the 9's lines, the basic schema underneath has great explanatory potential. Curiouser and curiouser is that I've been planning to do some work on quantum anatomy -showing the quantum level roots of the gross and fine structures the human body. Turns out your graphic is like... the place to start!

Ok then :-) Thanks More soon.

Quantum Bi-Spherical Fundamentals
of Our Human Stereo Vision

The law of equipartition of energy states that for any dynamical
system in a thermal equilibrium, the total energy is equally divided
among the degrees of freedom.

The equipartition theorem can also be used to predict the properties of
stars, even white dwarfs and neutron stars, since it holds even when
relativistic effects are considered. The theorem is inaccurate, such as
when quantum effects are significant at low temperatures.

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