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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, so....
What is space ?
What is aether ?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:04 pm    Post subject: Push me - pull you Reply with quote

What "allows" quantum entanglement? Reciprocity. The fundamental nature of existence lies in balance. States of stable, meta-stable and quasi-stable exchange that establish the limits of our perception. E=mc2 is a relation and not a foundation. We have barely scratched the surface of energy and how it exists, desists and manifests within, about and through our conscious awareness ... of ... ourselves as the nexus that results from the condensation of energy into matter. The speed of light is just the "slow lane" metric for our solid state. Vibrational frequencies that subtend and comprehend our universe and all of its constituents.
So much for us to learn, so little that we know. Quite the challenge. Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Peter:
So much for us to learn, so little that we know. Quite the challenge. Wink

Hey, if it was easy, everybody would be doin' it. Laughing

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just0:
OK, so....
What is space ?
What is aether ?


Probably the two most important questions, when well defined.

Checking the dictionary for aether:

    Aethereal is something fragile, light, airy, or from heaven.
    From the Latin aether, meaning pure, upper air, sky.
    An example is a glass vase; a cherub; a billowy silk robe.

    Ethereal is something airy and delicate or spiritual.
    Something refined, heavenly or exquisite.

This richly archetypal landscape contains valuable insights.
There's a lot of qasi-religious terminology there.
There's also a lot of ancient cosmology.

The upper reaches of the heavens were also thought to be crystal spheres.
Thus the association between aether and a glass vase.

Why is aether associated with purity?
Because it's the realm of the divine: incorruptible. and pure.

The ancients knew that the air at high altitude was thin.
Aether is the mountain top air angels breathe in heaven.

It was thought to permeate the spaces in the heavens.

Which was wrong.

Because air density effectively runs out at 6,000 miles up:



Above 6,000 miles there's only clouds of solar coronal mass ejections,
space junk and the occasional passing comet trail.

There's no air. A condition we now call Space.

Back on Earth, the sound of your voice is patterns of vibrations
transmitted by actual air molecules which bang off each other.

But in Space the Sun's light is claimed to be sent through space
as vibrating waves transmitted by nothing banging off nothing.


That's nonsense. We must be oversimplifying the nature of space.

Why are we doing that?

Because mind and science is in thrall to particles which sit in space
and mutually exchange by sending energy packets through space.

That is a knee jerk error and a disabling mind glitch.

Because science knows well that Space is not "empty".

The Casimir Effect shows that space seethes with quantum granularity.

Here's a few brave mainstream attempts to explain this effect:












Actually, the Casimir effect has far more to it.
Like quantum repulsion as well as attraction.
And like Casimir torque effects.
(Bill Gaede tie-up?)



So, eh......... how does regular light pass so easily through
an 'empty' Space which is really a seething quantum soup?

Space. The final frontier indeed.

Can we use the physical world to try and ground all this?

We have waves crashing on beaches all across the planet.
We have the Sun rising and falling with wavelike certainty.
And Moon sailing around us with a gynecological frequency.

We need to solve the nature of that cosmic sea: Space.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



At 54 minutes.......

Gaede totally destroys the electric universe theory with a stunning
debunking which is based on his expertise with chip manufacturing.

(Hint: When you make microchips you need a vacuum. Like in space)

Laughing Pwned.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:36 pm    Post subject: Atomic angst Reply with quote

An interesting "debunking" or perhaps an "alternate" explanation that may, or may not, bear up under experimental verification. We are always dealing with polarities, resonances and potentials. Every system can be described by potential/kinetic energies, be they electrically signed, gravitational or vibrational. Light itself is but an expression of resonance between organizing and disorganizing systems. Any field is but a mathematical domain that supports the expression of resonance between opposing or colluding forces. Most theories cover some but never all of these eventualities as the TOE that we have yet to "describe" might itself be considered the "Name of God" by those of a more theosophical bent. I like his skepticism but discounting any theory by a proposed counter theory (be it currently accepted or not) is just a mind and word game for the most part.
Nice find, Fintan. Always subject matter to force us to re-assess our "certainties". Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:26 pm    Post subject: BIG deal Reply with quote

Actually, the Casimir effect holds the key.

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We need to solve the nature of that cosmic sea: Space.


Sorry for the paraphrase but friction is a force that rubs some people both ways... lol.
We are but physical manifestations (and representations) of our cosmic AND quantic natures. Smaller IS better...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gaede has been having health problems lately.
I have to say I feared the worst.

He'll be back soon. Exclamation


Until then, here'a a short classic Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We need to solve the nature of that cosmic sea: Space.


I'm with Gaede on this, a pure vacuum is nothing, physically nothing.
BUT, the universe is not only made of matter and energy and 'things'.

Fintan touched upon it many times before, paraphrasing 'Space is Mind'.
Imagination is what fills the void, potential, possibilities of your mind.

Space or nothingness can never be quantified,
space is only the infinite possibilities of what can be Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Reports of Bill's demise have been greatly exaggerated...

Hospital can't keep a good man down....

The Dude is BACK!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

compare Bill's view of gravity with Neil deGrasse Tyson's


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jqQ-_Zh7kQ

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:12 pm    Post subject: Quid pro quo... Reply with quote

Reciprocity... Not so much mass telling space how to curve and space telling mass how to move but rather the exchange of informational "presences" that describe the intrinsic and extrinsic aspects of existence. The greater the mass "amount", the more information required to describe its presence which then "deforms" space-time to enable the more complete (think gravity well or attractive force) exchange of the relevant vectorial constituents. This coming together is the requirement for balance that occupying a smaller volume exchanges potential energy for kinetic. The why is intelligence (order making) and the reduction of redundant or degenerate states that exist in a chaotic, high entropy environment. Our conscious awareness provides the definition of this condition.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope everything is fine with Bill.
Until then. here's an 11 year old video Laughing Laughing
One of the best Exclamation


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