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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:08 pm    Post subject: The circle of...existence Reply with quote

Static entropy and temporal stasis. A kind of relief from the constant pressure to devolve and a respite from the effort to resist it.
Intelligence is the process of bringing order from chaos. When that process is blocked or otherwise interfered with, there is a counter pressure that requires temporal dilation to accommodate it. Certain planes of existence (the astral) are independent of temporal gradients. There is no "flow" of time per se, rather an accumulation of events that remain contiguous but separate as they occupy reality.
It is this experiential existence that affords death with its capacity to retain and restore the vitality of "living" organisms. (Intelligent living organisms are the leading edge of this particular movement.) Like a capacitor that stores electric charge, allowing a quanta of current to flow under given conditions, death stores the memories of experience and accumulates them outside of time in a way that creates the force that engenders life, creating more experiences.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about post intelligent life apocalypse or post universe death/implosion etc?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:18 am    Post subject: Plumber's helper Reply with quote

bri wrote:
What about post intelligent life apocalypse or post universe death/implosion etc?

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When you are in the flooded basement, trying to fix a broken pipe, there is little point in trying to imagine how well the garden might grow once the garden hose can be used to water it. First, ya gotta fix that pipe. Wink

As far as entropy and the "heat-death" of the universe goes; as long as there is one aspect, the other opposite will exist to balance it out. How much is irrelevant, as infinity allows for a lot of room to be available for whichever you prefer. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Plumber's helper Reply with quote

Peter wrote:
bri wrote:
What about post intelligent life apocalypse or post universe death/implosion etc?

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When you are in the flooded basement, trying to fix a broken pipe, there is little point in trying to imagine how well the garden might grow once the garden hose can be used to water it. First, ya gotta fix that pipe. Wink

As far as entropy and the "heat-death" of the universe goes; as long as there is one aspect, the other opposite will exist to balance it out. How much is irrelevant, as infinity allows for a lot of room to be available for whichever you prefer. Smile


Those two paragraphs have been making my year.

What would be your death poem?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:27 am    Post subject: You asked for it Reply with quote

Death is for the living


The universe is energy, vibrations so they say
Infinite in time and space, more than enough for all.
Intelligence gives order, keeping entropy at bay
While will and love go hand in hand since well before the fall.
What we perceive depends upon much more than just our sight
Knowing how we fit there-in, relieves us of our plight.
To take our place and stand up tall, becoming our true self
We only need to look within, to see just what we are.
For energy is existence and that is what we’re given
As long as there is energy, there will be life for living.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:30 am    Post subject: Dying to know... Reply with quote

So, why exactly do we need to die? What specifically is it about our existence that lends itself to the attributes and associations that are affiliated with this particular null state?
We can start with the need to live. Existence is a means to an end and that end is certainly not death. Death is a necessary respite on the journey of existence. We live to evolve. All things change with time and those changes come about from the interplay between the forces of advancement and retention. The polarization of energy in its manifest forms that creates the potential for change. Our evolution has one significant difference with all other forms of change and forms that change. It is conscious awareness. We have proceeded from simple sentience to an understanding of our place in the universe but have yet to discern the purpose of our presence.
What is the ultimate in conscious awareness and why are we not there yet?! It cannot be knowledge, for that is an infinite and overbearing load of information that no reasonable (computing) machine would consciously undertake. But what about knowing? The ability to make intuitive leaps from a state of ignorance to whatever appreciation is required.
Now we are getting somewhere Idea

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.engadget.com/amp/2016/10/06/humans-can-only-live-to-115-researchers-claim

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Humans can only live to 115, researchers claim
At least, according to a trend-based analysis coming out of New York.
Daniel Cooper Daniel Cooper, 10.06.16
Research out of New York's Albert Einstein College of Medicine believes that the goal of living forever is an impossible one. A team of researchers analyzed mortality rates and aging trends across the world and found that there may be a ceiling to our lifespan. Popular belief may be that humans could live longer if they remain in good health, it appears that the best we can hope for is 115 years on this planet. Which should give you just enough time to finish all of those TV series binges before the world inevitably boils into dust.
An extensive piece in the New York Times has sourced comment from across the scientific community with a wide variety of opinions being offered. Some believe that the study validates a long-held belief that immortality is impossible, while others dispute the findings. The paper quotes James Vaupel, who said that it was "disheartening" and was based upon a scientific "mistake." It's also worth reiterating that this was a trend-based study, rather than a biological one, and its inferences may be a perverse reading of the data.

The study also fails to take into account key advances in science that could upend the current thinking on aging and DNA. After all, our lifespan is hard-coded into our DNA, not as a set figure, but by how many times each cell can reproduce. Imagine that each cell is playing the game of your life with a series of quarters lined up on the top of an arcade machine. Each time damage has to be repaired (i.e. replication), you pump another quarter into the coin slot. But a cell can only replicate so many times before you'll run out of quarters and it's game over.

But advances in gene editing mean that we're getting closer to removing and replacing parts of people's genetic code. Currently, that's been used to cure a fatal case of infant leukaemia and hemophilia, but the potential is enormous. Scientists like George Church have ambitions to build a "perfect" strand of DNA that could reduce our vulnerabilities to disease and injury. It's a mostly-theoretical concept right now, but given how far genetics has come in the last few decades, not an impossible one.




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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:56 am    Post subject: fear of trying? Reply with quote

Not so much planned obsolescence as it represents a need for renewed vigour. Imagine a renewed and refreshed spirit confined in a decrepit vessel. Hardly an intelligent design, wouldn't you say? Wink
The incarnational cycle has a turn-around time of about 2 generations. Just enough to permit a certain re-orientation of the newly charged subtle bodies. Another life-experience requires both space and time to settle into and to balance out the new conformation.
Ideally, a one-stop shop would be nice, but the finishing touches would tend to be done hurriedly and by an ever-aging artisan. There can be no fear of death once you realize that it is an integral part of living.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:28 pm    Post subject: Status quo vadis Reply with quote

All of the preceding begs the following questions:
Do I ALWAYS have to lose contact with my conscious awareness to benefit from the state of death?
If and when I can maintain that contact how will it affect the continuity of my evolutionary process?
Is that new state of being a logical consequence of my current conformance?

Energetically speaking, we are currently in a state of meta-stable equilibrium. Since singularities are rare in nature, it is reasonable that other similar states exist at both higher and lower frequencies and potentials. On the upward curve of conscious evolution, we rise toward the next meta-stable state as we gain awareness. It is the derivative of that curve that tells us how we are progressing. The lesser the slope, the closer we are. Experiential baggage holds us back by its memorial inertia and as we accumulate that psychic mass, continued rising along the curve gets more and more energetically demanding despite the decrease in the slope that it is necessary to overcome. The steepest part of the curve comes early but youthful vigour and inexperience allows for a more rapid advancement. The key to making it to the “top” of that next hill, unlike Sysiphus, is to lighten our load as we go. Letting go of encumberments and forgetting about old scores to settle helps but the key comes from leaving behind the old paradigm of knowledge is wisdom for the next level approach of knowing is being. The current state of this situation is evinced by the ever-increasing number of Alzheimer patients who, unfortunately, suffer from dementia as well as forgetfulness. Nonetheless, once we can release our own minds from the bondage that we have made for and of ourselves, our vibratory rate increases and that frequency rises to exceed the level of the next bump in our evolutionary road.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:51 pm    Post subject: Easy as 3.14159.... Reply with quote

So. the next logical, and reasonable, question is: "Can I maintain that conscious awareness and just how do I do it?"

As we gain awareness, our ability to discern the actual changes in the energy fields that surround us is seconded by our sense of "feel". Not feeling in terms of heat/pressure/humidity but the appreciation of our place within the flow and how it relates to our origin and eventual destination. This "feel" ( a sixth sense if there ever was one) bridges the gap between what we perceive and how it affects us. Being oblivious to that which affects us is the classical definition of lack of awareness. Being tuned-in to the ebb and flow of what is currently important to our existence is the next-level of consciousness.

With each and every experience, acknowledging and taking advantage of our "feel" is the best way to define and hone this innate, if somewhat under-used, skill. Our logical and rational processes notwithstanding, the ability to read that other poker player, to sense the interest of that potentially significant other and to relate to that eventual and important ally of ours, allows us to advance and improve our evolutionary scenario.

Changing from one meta-stable equilibrium to another is not an impediment to advancement. It is a necessity. We are all here to apprise our situation and ameliorate our condition. With each and every step, we advance toward our destination. We need only consolidate and cultivate this tendency to elevate it to where it can operate at all times and in all ways. Just another of our "subtle" attributes, installed and instilled in our psyche, waiting for us to make use of their availability.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:47 am    Post subject: One small step for a man... Reply with quote

So, now that our mental clarity and psychic acuity are sufficient to enable our passage to the next level, just what can we expect as we avail ourselves of this subsequent paradigm?
The situation and condition is dependent upon the nature of the psychic terrain through which we must travel. Knowing what to expect is the best guide to a successful arrival. Since everything is energy and our existence is fundamentally vibratory in nature, it is the vibratory state of this terrain that will show us the way.
Memories and the thought processes that they engender are much denser than the more rarified aspects of the unknown and its nascent and unspecified eventualities. As such, much like any natural system, the more compact the elements, the hotter they tend to be. Heat is described as infra-red radiation while light is a higher frequency. Finding oneself in terra incognita, making use of universal principles will stand us in good stead. Thus the perception of warmth will show the way back to the lower levels. Coolness will describe the nature of that which is undergoing expansion and providing room to grow. Since both are vibratory, choose the cool light and your path will be clear and unfettered.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:39 pm    Post subject: c Reply with quote

Regarding "spiritual" (let's call it long lasting and as nature intended) development, someone coined the phrase "magnetic center" which must be attended to in order to stay long lasting as it were. I wonder if they knew about W. Russell's idea of the "magnetic still light". D. Wilcock coined "consciousness unit", our ultimate essence. From certain lucid dreams I had this seems quite close. This would imply there is some kind of quantized thingy going on while at the same time unity in what the Tibetans call the "Clear Light" or just short of that.

There was a Space 1999 episode where the et group leader, who collectively achieved immortality, said the "flavor of life fades...".

I myself was wondering about this idea of kundalini rising - implying some linear process - and ages; in the context of Cycles. Get set for the Next kali yuga... A cosmic gotcha or something necessary for evolution? 3D, apparently is a matrix with inherent downsides so to speak.

Unless this immortality involves the living unit remaining in contact with Source, then perhaps that et guy was on to something. You know transhumanism will involve our minds being wired up to a vast borg like hub. Yet, can't or shouldn't we be able to do that without an artificial aide? Or perhaps the former might aide the latter?

The above is half baked and I'm just saying hi really ; )
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