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je-demande



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan wrote:
Jimbo wrote:
A dumb question. If I was suspected of a crime are the authorities not allowed to look me up on Facebook for clues about my character?

Sure - but this is not about individuals OR real crime.
This is about pre-crime surveillance of vast masses of citizens
- where the "crime" involved is to be politically opposed to the goals
of the people doing the surveillance.
You can figure yourself the totalitarian direction that could go.


My own personal take on this is "the fear factor"

With all the millions of CCTV's we have millions & millions & millions of useless footage. CCTV footage as evidence is usually twinned with phone surveillance and only valuable if the criminals are amateurs.

Internet cointel pro etc is generally low grade often disabled ex military spending their days defending Israel and trying to influence forums etc but generally the data they have is useless.

To me this is the most important "Dynamic" at play in the "Infowar"(makes me cringe saying the word :-) )

Anyway in my opinion Snowden & Co are not whistle blowers at all but are simply excuses for the media to keep pretending that the PTB "Know almost everything"

Some one could drop a pile of papers in my letter box tomorrow morning containing thousands of numbers. Its no good some one telling me that this weeks winning lottery number is among-st those numbers because I have no way of finding out which one before the night of the draw. Even though I know 100% that the winning number is in the bag.

There are keys words there are ways of fishing but what are the PTB actually fishing for?

ISIS is bullshit and they know it. There is no real organic domestic terrorist threat and they know it. So what is the point of all the crap?

IMO its to scare John Doe from hiding money of shore and to make everyone pay their tax's stay in line, rat on their neighbor and make them think they're unto you even though they're not.

Face book? how are they going to farm that data? like I said they can't do it.

The main problem is ordinary people will react to hypothetical situations and that's the reason.

Its largely all one big massive bluff.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed - fear and bluffing.

Map of the chase route

The chase begins only 1 Km from the San Bernardino Inland Regional Center

26:27 two witnesses from IRC say definitely 3 shooters

Click here for the Audio recording of the Police scanner – Dec 2 2015

1:40:00 Faliure to yield – suspect vehicle spotted

(1) 1:40:05 Eastbound on Chandler

(2) 1:40:16 High rate of speed through the water district parking lot

(3) 1:40:20 Broke through the fence at Animal Control

(4) 1:40:43 In the Target parking lot

(5) 1:40:54 Orange Show Road

(6) 1:41:37 North bound on Allen from Mill Street

(7) 1:41:49 Still north bound at Rialto street

(Cool 1:41:53 Suspect crashes in to a white truck

Click here for the helicopter footage of the crash scene and suspect in custody

Helicopters view vs Google maps

crash scene 1

crash scene zoomed

crash scene 2

1:42:02 male dark shirt blue jeans running east down the car park at Bryant

(9) 1:42:12 4 officers on suspect, taking suspect in to custody

injured white male suspect wearing an armoured vest

suspect surrounded

is this the 3rd shooter?

52:28 2 males removing black clothing at Hunt Lane at the bridge overpass

2 men are killed in a helicopter crash the next day in Tennessee

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