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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

“Most ignorance is vincible ignorance. We don’t know because we don’t want to know.”
Aldous Huxley

Yep, we certainly don't like to hear things that we don't want to hear or that don't agree with our worldview....
The thing is; how is that working out for us so far?

Definition cognitive dissonance Wikipedia; "In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, performs an action that is contradictory to one or more beliefs, ideas or values, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

http://www.downtoearththinking.com/cogdis-and-normalcy-bias.html

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The Normalcy Bias and Cognitive Dissonance

How it affects the American population in conjunction with PRAVDA/MSM

Here is a wiki definition of the Normalcy bias . What happens is, we tend to not want to take in all the information rather deliberately because it may be a bit unpleasant ? We find it very easy to discount or disregard all the information because it is easier to do that, rather than actually consider the consequences. So a lot gets swept under the rug in our rationale on many matters. Hence we think all is well by simply discounting many factors even if they are staring us right in the face everyday ? I can think of a very good example on how this plays out here in USA today. Many think our economic picture is bright and a bit rosey even ? But those very people do not fully consider the enormous debt we have created by pumping up the markets. That pump was simply another illusion created to fool people and make them think all is well and we are in a recovery ! And many buy into it because they have not really felt much impact yet, the key word being yet ? But for every action we know there is an opposite reaction and this will be no different at all. But it is very easy for the average guy to buy into the charade because he is just fine, in his view.

The problem is that his view does NOT take into account all the debt that has been created and just how or if, it is even numerically possible to pay any of it back ? And if it cannot be repaid then what happens ? So he is living in the normalcy bias and simply ignoring parts of the equation as his daily life lumbers along and all seems well. But of course there actually is far more to the story. The near 18 trillion admitted as national debt is just a pittance compared to the over 120 trillion of off balance sheet unfunded liabilities of Social Security, Medicare and other off balance sheet schemes and black budget issues that are NOT accounted for on any ledger that the public is aware of. It is all withheld very deliberately so you do not see the real numbers. Then you would realize that our government is actually insolvent. And beyond that there is more than 500 trillion in derivatives floating around that are simply bets on top of bets on top of other bets ? And none of it is regulated nor does anybody really know who would actually have a valid claim of any sort ? So it really is a giant house of cards and nothing more ! All created by the banks and the wall street so-called smart guys ?

So the Normalcy bias is really something we simply don't want to face and really just psychologically and emotionally hide from or simply fool ourselves ? Because it is not a feel good kind of thing or issue at hand ? We see this play out in all manner of issues and events here in USA and there is no doubt the politico control freaks are keenly aware of this phenom and play on it everyday. They simply skirt around the real answers or numbers knowing that few will grasp the truth or even consider that the numbers don't add up or the scheme is simply not feasible ? So it is relatively easy to vilify those few that are actually thinking, simply because they are few and NOT the majority. So they must be wrong because everybody thinks something much different ? And that my friends is how it all works to bamboozle you and create many of the Illusions we all live in . There are many more examples, and yes Obamacare is a very good one , but I think you get my drift here and how it all works so lets move onto Cognitive Dissonance.

Here is the wiki definition of Cognitive Dissonance . What happens with cog dis is that we get confused and have frustrated thinking because we see something that should be doing this, but it isn't ? A major mixed signal ? Two competing and conflicting cognition stimuli at the same time. And beyond that we are being told that an outcome should do this, when we know it shouldn't ? Much like an Alice in wonderland dream of sorts ? And I could use the economic analogy again but lets use Obamacare this time. We were all told that this law would be very beneficial and lower the cost of health care. As it moved along nobody was allowed to read the bill ? Of course many called bullshit from the get go , myself included. But the control freaks insisted that you could keep your doctor and it will save billions of dollars and everybody will be covered no matter what ! As more time passed the picture only got worse and many now realize it was actually a complete lie and nothing but a scheme from the get go. But none of the claims have softened or in any way lived up to the truth of the matters. It is simply a control mechanism and a tax scheme and nothing else. So we have all experienced various degrees of cog-dis from this and many other events from this regime . They actually feed on it to keep the issues confusing and that gives them breathing room to keep it all rolling along with ever more false claims and down right malfeasance and illegal acts.

So between the Normalcy Bias and Cognitive Dissonance they have found many ways to keep the masses bamboozled and it all plays right into PRAVDA/MSM as the propaganda arm that makes it all work ! Lets take a look at that as well. Here is another perspective on cog-dis and normalcy bias

We used to have something called journalism in this country and they actually did question authority. Imagine that, how novel ,Hey ? What we have now is simply a propaganda machine and outlet for the current regime of control freaks. Consider this, back in the 1960s - 70s, PRAVDA and TASS of the old Soviet politburo, were in fact the official propaganda machines and the only source of information inside the Soviet Union. So the people could only hear or see exactly what they wanted you to hear or see ? What we have today, here in USSA, is no different at all ? It is the same thing. The biggest outlets simply do not report any negatives on the Obama regime and the control freaks. Also they only run what are perceived as any positives ! And most of those are lies and distortions or illusions created out of thin air. Some of which are beyond preposterous or simply made up like the video that supposedly caused Benghazi ? Or the fact that the IRS debacle is not covered by most of the outlets, and it is completely disavowed and covered up. So we have many powerful forces working together in a sort of mind control effort and propaganda effort to help and protect the control freaks .

I could list the many events like F&F and so-called border control, but again you likely already know all that and get my drift on the issue. The power of PRAVDA/MSM is far more serious and important than most realize. In fact it is the real source of power for the control freaks. Because they can determine all narratives and dialogue and steer all issues in any direction they deem necessary and ignore any they please, to achieve any outcome desired. It is far more important and powerful than simply calling it the left leaning media. Way past that. And until we all grasp the depth of this phenom we will not be able to defeat it. Just as understanding the many illusions is the secret to defeating them and rendering them ineffective on you, the same applies to understanding the full power of PRAVDA/MSM as a propaganda machine and a control mechanism. All of the above phenom are all tied together and used every second of everyday to control you !

Next we have the Hegelian dialectic.Here is a short but concise explanation of this phenom.

"The Hegelian dialectical formula: A (thesis) versus B (anti-thesis) equals C (synthesis).

For example: If (A) my idea of freedom conflicts with (B) your idea of freedom then (C) neither of us can be free until everyone agrees to be a slave.

The Soviet Union was based on the Hegelian dialectic, as is all Marxist writing. The Soviets didn't give up their Hegelian reasoning when they supposedly stopped being a communist country. They merely changed the dialectical language to fit into the modern version of Marxist thinking called communitarianism. American author Steve Montgomery explores Moscow's adept use of the Hegelian dialectic in Glasnost-Perestroika: A Model Potemkin Village."

Here in USSA today, this phenom is used to control both sides of political thinking and those outcomes. So Red and Blue are really just a slightly different flavor of the same thing ! and voila, you have an excellent control mechanism to control the masses !

I will expand on these thoughts as more comes to mind and events unfold. June 26, 2014 written by Steve Baze

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hate to be a party pooper and pop your dreams Skinters, but David Wilcock is controlled opposition, just like his friend Benjamin Fulford. C'mon, think about; Chinese white dragon families fighting for humanity? You have got to be kidding!
This is down to us, and us alone, as it should be; time to wake up and grow up....

“It does not require a majority, but an irate minority, keen to set brushfires in the minds of men.”
Samuel Adams


I don't stand by fulford or wilcock. I know nothing about who they are or any agenda they have.

I like the idea that influential people are fighting along side us , and see what's going on.

The idea that we are going to collectively wake up is not realistic or what we are seeing in reality. People are to engrossed in their lives. Oh we will fight back, but for the wrong side.

Look at what's happening in Paris. There's been a big push there to instill in weak minds who the culprits are. David Cameron is looking for a way in to Syria, and it seems we are going all out. The refugee crisis is being used to put terror on our streets, and it won't be long before everyone will beg for our governments for a solution, and get behind this false war on terror.

If you want to hold onto the fantasy of this being down to us, and we are the solution go right ahead. I've gone past that a long time ago. It seems you are a bit behind in your ideas of how its developing.

Let me know your plan for over throwing the 'NWO' from behind your TV screen.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad to see that you have given up on yourself and hope that wankers like Wilcock and Fulford will come to the rescue. Talking about fantasies!
Influential people; what does that even mean? Personally I distrust anyone that has risen in the totally corrupted ranks of (western) societies, it usually means that they were bought and paid for.

With regard to TV; I'm happy to tell you I don't have one; best decision ever. The fearporn that is being pumped out 24/7 is not only poisoning our minds but also disinforming us on the grandest of scales. If you still have one, my recommendation would be to throw it out the window right away! The internet is another story; lots of fearporn there as well, but also lots of useful information. It takes time to navigate it and learn to avoid all the pitfalls that it has to offer. What I like about it is that I can listen to the finest minds currently alive (or even dead) and hear their views without a commercial interruption. But there is no such a thing as people that have all the answers or easy solutions, I'm sorry. I guess it was not intended to work that way. The world is way too complex for any one person to understand and we're way past easy solutions.

The biggest challenge in my opinion is the effort to raise the awareness of people. After all, this is a battle over our minds. After that has been achieved and we're all on the same page solutions will come easily. I suppose you're familiar with Dante Alighieri, who wrote the Divine Comedy. This book is a very apt description of what humanity is facing right now; the dark night of the soul.

Basically we're being confronted with our own demons and the consequences of our taking things for granted without any serious thought as to why the world works as it does. You see, in the end I think the role of the elites is a rather interesting one and a double edged sword. Yes, they're evil beyond measure and would love to subjugate humanity for all eternity. At the same time they give us an opportunity to grow up and take true responsibility for our own lives, without wanting to meddle in the lives of others. In my opinion that’s their curse and their gift; it’s up to us to decide what to do with it. In the meantime, I think Dante said it best when he uttered these words;

„From a little spark may burst a flame“

and;

„The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.“

I guess I’m in a somewhat sentimental mood..

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plato wrote:

Influential people; what does that even mean? Personally I distrust anyone that has risen in the totally corrupted ranks of (western) societies, it usually means that they were bought and paid for
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Well that's a big generalisation of every single person who in someway works for the government or has wealth of any kind. I don't think it's as simple as that.

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With regard to TV; I'm happy to tell you I don't have one; best decision ever. The fearporn that is being pumped out 24/7 is not only poisoning our minds but also disinforming us on the grandest of scales. If you still have one, my recommendation would be to throw it out the window right away![\quote]

I still watch the main news channels if only to see through what they are doing. Keep your enemies close.

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The world is way too complex for any one person to understand and we're way past easy solutions. [\quote]

Exactly my views change constantly because of it. We are on the same side its just I don't generalise as much as I used to ie everyone who works in government is evil, and working for the 'NWO'. A lot of people don't know what is going on including government.

in the war on terror. Its not their fault in the main. Many don't want the truth of it, and I understand it on many levels.

Don't get me wrong I agree on the whole with what your saying, and that goes for all the work fintan puts in which is immense, but I have to question this where I see fit. My views have changed. I have a feeling every part of this has been worked out for example our reactions to it...I fear we are looking at it wrong, and maybe being played.

Sorry about the quotes its fucked up on my phone .
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeez, you pussies are just addicted to bitchin'
while you flagellate yourselves to a slow death. Laughing

Turn the clock back 60 years and global war shit was going down
that would stain your underpants in seconds and really give you
some ace Fear-pRon. Real, actual concentration camps - not just
illusory Alex Jones death trains. Millions slaughtering millions.

Today, In the West, more people die of heart attacks in a month
than have been killed in all the acts of terrorism added together.

Globally, actual war levels have cratered
- in measurable terms of fatalities/injuries.

You 'been PsyOped to f*ck.

Lighten up - it's called progress. Wink

And it's constant. It's relentless.

Despite any NWOFBICIAMI5DGSEFEDEUSA.

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In a century that began with 9/11, Iraq, and Darfur,
the claim that we are living in an unusually peaceful time may
strike you as somewhere between hallucinatory and obscene.

The post–World War II conflict data offer compelling evidence
that both the decline in the number and deadliness of wars are
real. The 2000s are indeed relatively peaceful compared with
previous decades.




The Decline in Global Violence
Reality or Myth?

http://www.hsrgroup.org/docs/Publications/HSR2013/HSR_2013_Press_Release.pdf

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vladimir Putin warns of 'serious consequences'
following Turkey shooting down Russian jet


“Today’s loss is a stab in the back by the accomplices of terrorists,”
Mr Putin told a press conference as he hosted King Abdullah of Jordan
in Sochi.

He claimed the plane was flying at an altitude of 6,000m when it was
shot down by a Turkish F-16 warplane and fell in Syrian territory several
kilometres away from the border.

“Our pilots and our plane never threatened Turkey in any way - this was
an obvious fact. They were conducting an operation to fight Isis,” The
Russian President said.

“Today's tragic event will have serious consequences for Russian-Turkish
relations.

“We have always treated Turkey not only as a close neighbour but as a
friendly state. “I don't know in whose interests today's incident is but
it's not in our interest.”

Mr Putin also hit out at Turkey for immediately calling a meeting with Nato
“as if Russia just downed a Turkish jet”.

The North Atlantic Council met in Brussels over the incident later Tuesday.

Quite a well-chosen turn of phrase by Valdimir Putin today.

"a stab in the back by the accomplices of terrorists"

'A stab in the back' is by definition the act of a pretend friend.

Add 'accomplices of terrorists' and it's easy to see Putin
means that Turkey and NATO are covertly backing ISIS.

Expect Putin to back that up with indisputable facts in due course.

This jet shoot down was a cynical ambush by NATO.

    - A Turkish camera crew was standing by to record it.
    - Local forces standing by to murder or capture the pilots.
    - NATO standing by to meet in emergency at its Brussels HQ.
    - Brussels already in NWO Ops armed lock down.

An NWO Propaganda and Provocation gambit.

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Completing the ambush was a TOW launch
by "terrorists" who get the love from NATO:

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Is Vladimir Putin right to label
Turkey ‘accomplices of terrorists’?


Since the earliest months of the Syrian war, Turkey has had more direct involvement and more at stake than any of the regional states lined up against Bashar al-Assad.

Turkish borders have been the primary thoroughfare for fighters of all kinds to enter Syria. Its military bases have been used to distribute weapons and to train rebel fighters. And its frontier towns and villages have taken in almost one million refugees.

Turkey’s international airports have also been busy. Many, if not most, of the estimated 15,000-20,000 foreign fighters to have joined Islamic State (Isis) have first flown into Istanbul or Adana, or arrived by ferry along its Mediterranean coast.

READ ON >

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was the Russian jet really shot down by an F-16?

Or was it a Mach 2.7 missile:

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks to me that the Turkmen who reside on the Syrian side of the border shot it down as well as shooting the pilots as they parachuted.
I remember reading this article a couple of weeks ago:

Building Air Defense for ISIS: A Qatar – Ukraine Link

http://orientalreview.org/2015/11/22/building-air-defense-for-isis-a-qatar-ukraine-link/

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Paul Craig Roberts http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/24/turkey-has-destroyed-russias-delusion-of-western-cooperation-paul-craig-roberts/

"UPDATE: A friend, George Abert, suggested a reason why the Turks shot down the Russian fighter-bomber over Syria. The Russians have a technology that they recently demonstrated against the newest US missile cruiser and Israel’s US jet fighters. The technology shuts down the communication systems of hostile forces, leaving them blind. He wonders if the Russian aircraft was shot down in order to encourage the Russians to use its unknown technology whenever Russian aircraft are in the vicinity of NATO and Israeli aircraft. He bets that the US has sent every Raven and ELINT specialist to the area in hopes that Russia’s use of the technology will allow them to learn enough about the system to duplicate it or learn how to block it."
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20 Nov 2015: Russian cruise missile strike on Daesh targets

Ten ships from the Caspian Sea and the Mediterranean
coordinated 18 individual strategic cruise missile strikes

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