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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow Fintan Shocked





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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They presently pay Cops about $30000cdn a month. Might be US dollars; anyway, that salary level is one of the many things wrong in Sandland.

That is insane.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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wow Fintan Shocked

Damn right!
Shit's getting real:
Quote:

And it's getting real at $6 an hour for a droid guard.
That's what they charge: all-in $6hr for 100% rental.

You buy nothing.
And the 'Bot doesn't get pension and healthcare.
The guy explains the deal @ 2min30sec:
Quote:

Nah! .... we're not taking jobs - says the guy ^
We're just augmenting how we do stuff.
Yeah.
Sure.

2017: $6.00/hr for a 'droid.

2020: $4.00/hr for a 'droid.

2025: $2.25/hr for a 'droid.

2030: Get free droid with happy meal.

Do you remember grandpa when there used to
be actual humans patrolling round malls an shit? Laughing

Actual humans! Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pop this in here: because it's very current and is an example of how AI software is dictating a macro environment of cultural habits.
Individual entrepreneurship being subject to a corporate onslaught of droids policing what we view which in the end stifles innovative growth.
etc




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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Some Robots still need a little work
done on their response skill set. Laughing

Watch above first - then get the explanation
right here: https://youtu.be/dDLi4GJ-3Bo

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The craziest shit is the countless numbers of people who have said I am paranoid and that if anything overall demand for human labour will increase as robotics and automation increase employment opportunity. These very people will hit the erase button on that train of thought as if it never stood when they have become more acclimated to their new normal.
It's not robots programmed with a bunch of predictable responses and commands, it's humans too!. What the hell happens to those with mortgages when the next wave of automation rears it's ugly head?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have we shared Handle yet? The is ridiculous.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robots That Dance
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Robots, as artificial humans, reflect how we think about ourselves—a major topic of Meaningness. Popular ideas about what it means to be human, and science fiction about what robots could be, strongly influence academic research in cognitive science and neuroscience. Advances in science, engineering, and philosophy also feed back into popular understanding of humanness.

I wrote this informal robotics research proposal sometime around 1990. I didn’t pursue it—this was just before I left the field—and didn’t publish it. However, it was widely circulated electronically, and I think it influenced other researchers’ work. It was probably premature, and may still be, but it articulates themes that, after a couple of decades of neglect, have started to reemerge in cognitive science, robotics, and artificial intelligence research.

For readers of Meaningness, it explains some aspects of being human that are central to the account of meaning that pervades the book. (Actually writing that still seems assigned to the distant future, so this may be helpful background.) Understanding the proposal mostly requires no knowledge of robotics; just ignore the technical bits.

For AI and robotics researchers, this might suggest fresh approaches. Most of what I proposed has not been seriously attempted—not, I think, because it is too difficult, but because it was so different from the then-mainstream. Some of these ideas are similar to ones that have come again into vogue, so this may be timely.

read more...

https://meaningness.com/metablog/robots-that-dance

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is one smart piece of thinking.

Makes me think though: do we want these machines
to compete with us or want them to compliment us?

Probably it's a question of both. Depends on the application.

But mostly it will be complimentary.

For example: Is the mini-drone delivering your package from
Amazon - complimenting or competing with the local postman?

Competing as a rival service for sure.

But a drone is a poor competitor as a driver of a post van.

Postmen are still way better at driving than drones.

So the drone compliments by doing the same thing..... differently.

Those legs of the Handle bot in Bri's video
have mere wheels at their base.

Boy are they good for getting around.

But they'll never climb stairs. No problem though.

Craftily, they'll just JUMP up stairs Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's definitely coming up in conversation with my generation (around 30) and I hear about more and more younger cousins, brothers, or sisters entering Robotics 101. They'll be in early enough at least before we just have robots to build the robots. Laughing

Mostly complimentary I'm sure as well, but to take away all basic labor would create a big need for well, a basic income.

I have no worries, or not too many, but it makes me think of something.

When I was a kid, the garbage men would come and there would be two guys on the back of the truck as well as the driver, cracking jokes as they tossed the stinky pails.
By the time I was out of high school they just had a big robotic armloader on the side.
I do wonder whatever happened to those other two guys.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a couple of $9 computers on order right now.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer

Someone wants me to make a custom security system for his house. I tried Arduino but it was a pain. This should have more than enough computing power and built in Wifi.

They are so cheap a dozen of them could be placed with sensors all over the place.

Why pay $50 per month to a security service when an AI could monitor your house and call your smartphone.

"Hey Dude someone is invading your house!!!"

If they can drive a car at 70 mph then it can watch a house that does not move.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

psikeyhackr wrote:
I have a couple of $9 computers on order right now.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer


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