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Fintan
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:48 pm    Post subject: The "Actors" Theory of Mass Terror Events Reply with quote

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I'm not going to contaminate a good thread
on the Boston Bombings with the above shit.


There's a lot of incoming traffic to the thread, and
it's tasteless, offensive, gutter conspiracy stuff.

This is the Next Level - not the Moron Level.

Moron Level is at Infowars or Veterans Today, etc..

So this thread is the place for all "actor theories"
re Boston and Sandy Hook, etc...

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Background:

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=80576#80576
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=80590#80590
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=80600#80600
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=80624#80624

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Figured this was coming. The 'actors' theory pretty much ruins your whole shtick.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, you're prolly right.

The entire body of my investigative journalism
is now destroyed by my stand on this drivel...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan wrote:
Yeah, you're prolly right.

The entire body of my investigative journalism
is now destroyed by my stand on this drivel...

Wink


Because you are 'investigating' fiction

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm concerned about the categorical feeling of this decision. Such a classification shouldn't be drawn so broadly, IMHO.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a lot of incoming traffic
to the Bombing thread..... so...

I'm not going to provide a platform for
rope-a-dope material which is designed
by CIA to discredit "conspiracy theories."

With ol' AJ already playing a role in the
mainstream coverage of the bombings,
I'm simply not giving the agency material
any free traction to undermine us here.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan wrote:
We have a lot of incoming traffic
to the Bombing thread..... so...

I'm not going to provide a platform for
rope-a-dope material which is designed
by CIA to discredit "conspiracy theories."

With ol' AJ already playing a role in the
mainstream coverage of the bombings,
I'm simply not giving the agency material
any free traction to undermine us here.


Thanks Fintan I really appreciate that.
I'm sure most other members here do as well,
whether just lurking or actively posting.


As I've said before, and it's getting redundant
now so I'm about done with this,
the whole "they want you to 1/2 know it's all bullshit"
aspect was driven full force from day one.
I'll keep these thoughts to this page for now,
so as not to muddy the waters over on the other thread.

AJ (mainstream conspiracy theory with vague hints at
"actors" and "jews" just to throw some tinfoil into the mix)
will likely "battle it out" with the "it's all staged" full-blown
acting-like-kooks-on-purpose-kooks (equivalent of No Planers
for Aurora, Sandy Hook, and Boston).

The fact that there are a lot of "conspiracy theorists"
in the Tsarnaev family, including both brothers being "into
9/11 conspiracy theories"....makes this especially
strange
and interesting.

Insert: deliberate mindfuck.

The photoshop allegations and all of the above are
front page news...to be ridiculed by the MSM slowly but surely.


Maybe "Misha" is Alex Jones! Wink Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benn wrote:
I'm concerned about the categorical feeling of this decision. Such a classification shouldn't be drawn so broadly, IMHO.


This was Fintan's only option. His back was against the wall. It's his website, and he is trying to convince those who visit it to see the truth as he sees it.

Sure, everyone claims to be in search of the absolute truth, building on an ever-steadying foundation of 'facts' until that magical moment when justice comes pouring down from the heavens.

But every single one of us has our own lens through which we see the world. This bias is inevitable and inalterable. We simply can't be completely objective creatures. Objectivity is an Enlightenment-era myth.

http://mjbutterworth.blogspot.com/2010/05/myth-of-post-enlightenment-objectivity.html

It all comes down to epistemology...what do we know? What can be known? How do we know what we know?

From there, we realize that, given the way the world is constructed, we have to rely on sources. Almost none of that which is presented to us, which shapes our world views, is seen live and in person with our own two eyes. It is all filtered, channeled through some intermediary, and delivered to us, neatly packaged according to our tastes.

More and more are starting to understand this, to really grasp it, and what they understand is that 'all the world's a stage'. They understand it intuitively. They understand that the MIC have unlimited power at their disposal to shape the world as they see fit, to draw up reality as one draws up the script for a play. Not only do they have this power, but everyone knows that they are simply too big to fail. There's no going back.

And that's the macrocosm, for microcosm Fintan. He's built his entire foundation on a pile of quicksand. And even as those around him point to the quicksand, tell him that his foundation is sinking and it's time to jump ship, he refuses. With all the work he has put in, there is no way he's leaving. He points to his life's work, glittering and gleaming in his sweat-stung eyes, and says to the onlookers that its simply too big to fail.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's be clear that you are waxing poetic on objectivity while completely missing the vital distinction between the words "faked" and "staged".

When pressed to defend your assertions, your response was "I'm too busy working on my dissertation." friendly word of advice: when defending your dissertation, don't tell them you are too busy arguing that the Boston marathon bombing was faked to answer their questions...

As for real sources, that's where you're wrong. I live in the area. I know people who were there. I know people who work at Boston hospitals. The people who were injured are real. Their injuries were real. For the many things that we don't and will likely never know about this event: that innocent people were killed and hurt is not in question.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EddieT wrote:


And that's the macrocosm, for microcosm Fintan. He's built his entire foundation on a pile of quicksand. And even as those around him point to the quicksand, tell him that his foundation is sinking and it's time to jump ship, he refuses. With all the work he has put in, there is no way he's leaving. He points to his life's work, glittering and gleaming in his sweat-stung eyes, and says to the onlookers that its simply too big to fail.


Attack the arguement not the person.Nobody is question what Fintan has said on this, although that not to say we all agree on everything put down.

You refuse to answer on this being a faked event here,

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Were all the people who ran to the aid of the "actors" in on it?
Because just one person might have smelled the ketchup, and then
they'd be going round telling folks there's no real injuries there, eh?

Were all the official and unofficial Emergency Medical Techs in on it?

Were all the hospital staff in on it? Because otherwise they might have wondered why people with ketchup on them were in their ER?

Were ALL the hundreds of family and friends of the "actors" in on it?
Because, if not they would start talking about how their pal "Harry" was on the TV. Or their daughter "Pattie" on TV pretending to have been injured.

Were all the scores of people injured by shrapnel in on it? And how did the fake the shrapnel injuries go down in ER?

Or maybe the shrapnel injuries were real, because the CIA have figured
out how to injure people at a distance from the "fake"(?) explosion, while
not killing the actors right beside the blast......


Its obvious that for this be a fake thousands of people would have to be involved.

You might consider how people who research conspiracy angles look to those who believe everything the government tells them.

A lot of people come here to escape the AJ style conspiracy bollocks , not bring it with them.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and i wrote:
Let's be clear that you are waxing poetic on objectivity while completely missing the vital distinction between the words "faked" and "staged".

When pressed to defend your assertions, your response was "I'm too busy working on my dissertation." friendly word of advice: when defending your dissertation, don't tell them you are too busy arguing that the Boston marathon bombing was faked to answer their questions...

As for real sources, that's where you're wrong. I live in the area. I know people who were there. I know people who work at Boston hospitals. The people who were injured are real. Their injuries were real. For the many things that we don't and will likely never know about this event: that innocent people were killed and hurt is not in question.


Well said.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and i wrote:
Let's be clear that you are waxing poetic on objectivity while completely missing the vital distinction between the words "faked" and "staged".


I completely understand this distinction. But the term 'stage' is traditionally associated with actors, and that's why it's part of the lexicon for the 'actors' theory.

But, if we want to do this dance, it is quite clear to me and to many others that the bombings were faked.

and i wrote:
As for real sources, that's where you're wrong. I live in the area. I know people who were there. I know people who work at Boston hospitals. The people who were injured are real. Their injuries were real. For the many things that we don't and will likely never know about this event: that innocent people were killed and hurt is not in question.


lmao. This is the oldest trick in the book. "My cousin used to play in a band with that guy who was standing right next to the guy who got his legs blown off!" Hop into any discussion on any of these events and you get plenty of "I live there and..." Why the hell should I trust you as a source of information?

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