As Garavelli says, Not Proven is also an acquittal. But I do believe there is something very specific in the jury finding all of the other verdicts Not Guilty but the Miss F case Not Proven. I have said above, and I was convinced during the trial, Ms F is in a different category. I do not believe she was knowingly lying. All the others I believe to be brazen, barefaced and conspiring liars who tried to orchestrate a terrible miscarriage of justice. I believe that is why their cases resulted in Not Guilty, but Miss F in Not Proven.
However one thing I think is for sure is that Nicola Sturgeon is finished. She will not survive the investigation as she is just too near the epicentre of all this shite, perhaps unwillingly or unwittingly, perhaps due to the influence of her husband, Peter Murrell and his suspected dark MI5-stinking unseen grubby hand moving in the shadows (... she might if she divorces him, although there are no signs they are anything but perfectly happy together) - but she, him and several other senior SNP figures are finished! They will not survive another conference vote (whenever they finally have one - they've already cancelled one and not due to COVID19!)
It's a shame because she is a very capable politician, one of the best - as can clearly be seen by anyone watching her reaction to the present crisis in comparison to the likes of Boris Johnston or anyone else in the UK Government.
And some serious cleaning out is required if the main goal of Scottish Independence is ever to be achieved -
Which makes me wonder about the effectiveness of the MI5/MSM psyop on Scotland. Their blanket scatter-gun multi-op approach to anything Scottish and SNP-Bad has taken out several of their own sleeping plants and it's disasterous and amateurish execution has left one of their biggest beastiest enemies not only alive and kicking but even more strengthened just when he was probably about to fade happily into the distant scotch mist.
I really think we should be getting our MI5 money back anyway!
I mean what fool is running that show!
Today is the 700th Anniversary of the Declaration of Arbroath!
There would have been a massive rally in Arbroath on Saturday to commemorate it and the subsequent push for Independence but with the lockdown that will have to be postponed til next year, but it didn't stop the digital celebrations taking place -
Craig Murray has truly been outstanding, to the point where they ended up excluding him from court with no explanation, but we all know it was because he was they only one reporting the truth.
In the fallout from the Alex Salmond trial, Craig Murray has been indited for 'Contempt of Court' - He was the only one reporting honestly from the trial and the only one who reported the defence's side of the case at all.
My Defence Fund now stands at £46,002, well on the way towards its target of £60,000. ...
I know of four pro-Independence folk who were last week phoned or visited by Police Scotland and threatened with contempt of court proceedings over social media postings they had made weeks back on the Alex Salmond case.
On Thursday two plain clothes police arrived and handed me the indictment. Shortly thereafter, an email arrived from The Times newspaper, saying that the Crown Office had “confirmed” that I had been charged with contempt of court. In the case of my friend whose house was raided, he was contacted by the Daily Record just before the raid even happened!
I am charged with contempt of court and the hearing is on 7 July at the High Court in Edinburgh. The contempt charge falls in two categories:
i) Material published before the trial liable to prejudice a jury
ii) Material published which could assist “jigsaw identification” of the failed accusers.
Plainly neither of these is the true motive of the Crown Office. If they believed that material I published was likely to have prejudiced the jury, then they had an obvious public duty to take action BEFORE the trial – and the indictment shows conclusively they were monitoring my material long before the trial. To leave this action until after the trial which they claim the material was prejudicing, would be a serious act of negligence on their part. It is quite extraordinary to prosecute for it now and not before the trial.
As for identifying the failed conspirators, I have done less than the mainstream media. But plainly the Crown Office, or whoever is pushing them to this persecution, had no genuine interest in protecting the identities, otherwise why did they tip off the media that I was being charged, and thus guarantee further publicity? If protecting the identities was their motive, to tip off the media would obviously be counterproductive.
But what proves that the Crown Office is acting from base motives and not those stated is the one-sided nature of this. Only supporters of Alex Salmond – the Alex Salmond found innocent by the jury – are being pursued by this continuing Police Scotland operation.
The state believes it has finally discovered a way to put me in prison without the inconvenient hurdle of a jury of my peers. Contempt of Court is just decided by a judge. It is extraordinary that you can go to jail for a substantial two years with no jury protection and no test of “beyond reasonable doubt”; and on the whim of a judge defending what he may view as the dignity of his own office. This really is the epitome of bad law. To use it against freedom of speech is disgusting.
The Alex Salmond case was a fit-up and a conspiracy in which the Crown Office was implicated, foiled by the jury. If Scotland is the kind of country where you go to jail for saying that, let me get my toothbrush.
It looks like Julian Assage and Craig Murray, both champions in the search for the truth, will be dealt with by the State in a Star-Chambered-style kangaroo-court without the need for a pesky jury to avoid any further embarrassment.
With all this Covid-19 malarky Independence has taken a bit of a back seat and some are very happy with that (Unionists and cosy careerist SNP devolutionists) and others (the greater YES movement and serious SNP independentists) want Independence put front and foremost (after this pandemical distraction is under control, of course ).
But many more are speaking out about the comfort and lack of interest or committment from the Scottish Government leadership ...
UNIONIST commentators seem to have written about virtually nothing other than independence since the virus broke – column after column after column about how we should move beyond division by totally giving up and entirely conceding the constitutional argument to them.
This doesn’t reflect reality. Unionism is in crisis and has no obvious way out of it.
Anger is never at the crisis – it’s about the aftermath
I’ve been surprised by how slowly people are realising how bad this is going to be. It should have been clear from the beginning – we’re going into a kind of ‘strangulation economy’ for the foreseeable future and entire industry sectors (tourism, hospitality, events) won’t reopen.
This is economic devastation of a type for which we have no experiential background. We’re going to suffer, and suffering is not an abstract concept. At the moment there’s some kind of equity – we all suffer a bit, some more than others.
... All the visual indicators of Britishness (Westminster, London, Union Jacks, city traders and all) will adorn a response that makes us angry. Even if Johnson does a level-decent job, the chances are that Scotland will be looking for an Atlee moment pretty soon.
And the Tories will screw it up anyway
This means they don’t have a means of operating which does not begin with securing the City of London and its banking institutions. In turn, that means they need to prop up the machinery of a financialised economy, like property prices and corporate shares and debt and borrowing.
That has an immediate knock-on effect – once again everything else will need to be twisted round banks. The shape of the response (unless they do something genuinely surprising) will be an iron spine of bank-and-corporation protection with a load of optional add-ons for everyone else. Unlike the spine, none of the add-ons will be fundamental. They will be disposable.
So unless the Tories can find another receptacle for public anger, they have a problem. And I think they’ll find it harder to get our anger directed towards the ‘undeserving poor’ because of the sheer number of new entrants into that category.
Any government is going to get a kicking over what comes next. Tory governments create uneven outcomes (it’s kind of their philosophy). And I’d put money on Scotland and its economy getting the uneven treatment.
And perhaps above all, the unionists (and indeed the advocates of globalisation) are going to find it hard-going-on-impossible to argue that giant lumbering countries are best at dealing with crises of this sort because the absolutely overwhelming evidence is they are not. ...
Frankly, by far the best bet for Scotland would have been for Nicola Sturgeon not to fall into lockstep. It is smaller, more nimble nations who have handled things best (or in the case of Germany, much more decentralised ones).
Unionists believe that buffing up at the gym until you’re pure bulging with muscles is the way to defeat any foe – then on the way home they get attacked by a swarm of wasps. Bet they wish they’d put some time into speed training and had worked on their balance and dexterity.
Finally, they really, really need their newspapers to get bailed out and they need that to happen with no strings attached. Their biggest fear would be a left-of-centre, reform-minded independence supporter who wanted to see a more balanced media as an outcome from throwing public money at them.
If they can’t come up with a leader, they need to adopt one, to co-opt one. So they need someone who, when setting up a committee to rebuild after the virus stacks it with right-wing unionists. They need someone who absolutely does not prepare a better crisis plan for Scotland than the cack-handed mess of the UK.
They need someone with an absolutely solid track record of finding reasons not to campaign for independence and who never supports others who do. They need someone who will never use a crisis to achieve change. They need someone who is very deeply interested in their own self-image. They need to find that person and protect them with their lives.
They really, really need Nicola Sturgeon.
So why do we behave like we need them?
Likewise, far from being over her dual with Alex Salmond is still to reach its terrible crescendo. One side has fired everything they have; the other is having a cup of tea and polishing his Exocet missiles. With that and parliamentary inquiries to come, describing her position as vulnerable would be an understatement.
The unionists need their First Minister and their First Minister needs them. The SNP needs to stop self-sacrificing the cause of independence in the pursuit of a kind of ‘respectability’ it does not need and should not want
The trick of a real leader is to find a way to deliver just outcomes for everyone now which also help move history in the direction of that leader’s true mission. At the same time.
The trick of a political party is to make sure they have such a leader. Winners don’t comply.
Anyone up for their taxes being used to bail out Scottish newspapers?
No, we didn’t think so.
... but more pertinently we see no realistic possibility of independence on the horizon under the current SNP leadership, and therefore no point in exhausting ourselves for nothing. We’d rather recharge our batteries and be refreshed and ready for the fight should one unexpectedly arise.
THE SNP has itself been colonised by a cult-like group who have successfully decoupled the party from reality. Independence for them comes a distant second to their mission of creating a new order rooted in scientific and medical fantasy. A proper nasty bastard sitting at the heart of government, in touch with the mood of the wider movement and not afraid to make enemies might have seen off the gender cult which is choking the SNP and independence; not pander to them. This sect seeks the hyper-normalisation of Scottish culture; something that isn’t real. It’s policed by a secret vigilante force whose word alone can destroy political careers. It needs to be dealt with before it destroys the dream of independence.
Our First Minister is surrounded by flatterers and careerists for whom the constitutional status quo has been very advantageous. It has preserved their power and fattened their pension pots.
They fear that conflict and passion will upset the comfortable, super-annuated rhythm of their lives. They’ve allowed the cause that has given them the good life to be hijacked.
And in the midst of all this the SNP's popularity goes from strength to strength with the latest opion polls giving them an outright majority at the next Holyrood Elections in 2021 -
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James, I can say with pretty close to absolute certainty that the SNP will not be getting my vote next time around and I know numerous people who feel exactly the same way.
A few days ago, I received an email from the Party to remind me that it was time to renew my membership.
I quote, in full, my entire reply; "You must be fucking joking. "
And that was me holding back.
No leader has worked harder to advance the Bill Gates agenda than Nicola Sturgeon and as soon as this is over, according to several party sources that I've heard from, she'll take up a plum U.N. post and scarper off to her luxury but'n'ben in the south of Spain with her secret girlfriend. The Health Minister has apparently got a similarly plush easy number with the WHO all lined up.
They're a shower of fakes, traitors and sellouts. Self-determination is dead in this country.
James, I can say with pretty close to absolute certainty that the SNP will not be getting my vote next time around and I know numerous people who feel exactly the same way.
I hear you Man and sympathise - the SNP hierarchy seems too comfortable with "devolved" (and thus retained) power and appear to have NO urgency to change that situation. It looks like they may go the way of "Scottish" Labour before them, who used to "weigh their votes instead of counting them" and they might be in for a nasty shock!
There has been much talk of setting up a new 'Pro-Indy' party by WingsOverScotland among others and indeed one has made a committment to launching in the near future this week -
The d’Hondt method for the Additional Member System of 73 constituencies (FPTP) and 56 ‘list’ or ‘regional’ make it difficult to near impossible to reach the magic number of 65 seats for an overall majority - by "Unionist" design, of course, to specifically STOP the SNP and Scottish Independence.
Many talk of trying to "game" the system but the representatives of the new "Independence for Scotland Party" are correct to claim they have a democratic right to stand on the "List Vote" only, in the hope of gaining seats lost to the million+ votes that go to the SNP which only result in 3 or 4 seats at most and are instead undeservingly "won" by troughing, useless Unionists who have no interest in Scotland whatsoever.
There's an on-going debate as to whether splitting the "indy-vote" would be effective for gaining the "indy-majority" or whether it would in fact endanger it - some for/some against ...
Most notably - scotgoespop.blogspot.com and the careerist SNP hierarchy & MPs AGAINST and ....
Equally notably - wingsoverscotland.com and many, many YES Movement supporters who are sick and tired of waiting for the SNP led Scottish Government to finally DO SOMETHING about getting Independence FOR
James Kelly of "Scotgoespop" is very good at polling etc. but ...... I just don't trust him. I suspect him of being a deep cover plant. He's much more subtle than others ...
[Another of the supposed "Pro-Indy" alt media that suspect (in fact I'm almost certain) is Mike Small of bellacaledonia.org.uk although they both post good articles now and again (like the MSM )]
James Kelly takes great pleasure now that Rev Stuart of WINGS has been banned from Twitter to spout his bile without recrimination as his latest article demonstrates ... although not without momentary comments to the contrario -
One of the reasons I knew in advance there was a Wings poll on its way was that people who had been interviewed by Panelbase mentioned there were "a lot of oddly-worded questions about the trans issue". But it turns out that the oddly-worded questions weren't just confined to one subject. Check out this monster -
UnknownMay 11, 2020 at 6:24 PM
It's not 2011 any more, voting patterns have changed, Labour have lost the central belt to the SNP and the Lib Dems have collapsed. You need to stick to either the condition of likely, i.e. the SNP won't win list seats in all but two or three of the regions and a pro indy fringe party won't win 5% of the vote on the list. Or alternatively possible, the SNP will repeat the 2011 result (all but impossible without a sea change in voting based on current polling) and the pro indy fringe party will win 5% of the vote.
You can't have it both ways.
To gain list seats, based on current polling, The SNP either have to win over 10-15% of the unionist vote or a new pro indy party has to gain 5% of the yes vote. Out of the two options I think I know which one is more likely.
Now lets play you delete (as always) and I repost (for the first time) have fun now!
The idea of a "List Vote" ONLY party is discussed in detail by WingsOverScotland here -
I was certain we would lose the first independence referendum, so certain that I placed a £100 bet in William Hill at 7 to 1, to win the vote. I did the patriotic thing, the futile sacrifice. And why not, as Arnold Brown is want to say. Colonised over 300 years, the chances of the ill and the sick getting up off their mattresses to vote the invaders home was no more than fantasy. After all, we hardly had more than a year of a national debate to turn Britishness into nationness. No amount of frantic idealism was going to reverse 300 years of imposed English values overnight.
Be prepared – next year, maybe
Is that the time already?
Now, in 2020, the SNP has reached a crossroads. Having ignored three mandates and as many opportunities to use them, given to them by the electorate to process a second referendum on autonomy, discontent has created a clamour for the constitutional change the SNP so often promised.
The SNP is once again faced by the old enemy, an implacable, far-right Tory Party in power at Westminster determined to treat Scotland as a province, but give it less respect than Northern Ireland, indeed, less respect than Gibraltar.
England’s nationalist upsurge has its goal to regain its own parliament and embrace delusions of empire with inflated occasions of pomp and circumstance. Simultaneously, when it ought to have been at its most politically vigorous, the SNP is mired in badly thought through policies, cases of sleaze and conspiracy it could have avoided, and dragged out of the European Union against its will by the British state.
The SNP sees itself out of step with the concerns and anxieties of the people who put it in power. Dissent mounts. Formerly avid supporters bleed away who see the SNP as risk averse, clumsy and unreliable. Self-determination is superseded by self-flagellation.
Historians studying Scotland state the Union is dead. Scots acknowledge the Union is wholly unfit for the 21st century, but the SNP, hell-bent on chasing more mundane political matters, appears unable or unwilling to do what it was elected to do, give Scotland back to its people.
NOTE: This is a work in progress.
Others tire of playing parliament poker and opt for another way and to declare a #ScottishUDI and #DissolveTheUnion ... but it won't be the SNP doing that! -
Opinion: Kevin McKenna: Has push for independence been sidelined by Hate Crime and Gender Recognition fanatics?
Joanna Cherry is one who has been vociferous in recent weeks for the independence case to be pressed home. Yet, such sentiments seem to be considered dangerous by the SNP’s presidium and so the ubiquitous anonymous ‘party source’ was duly despatched not merely to contradict her but to ridicule her too. Such is the way with the party that preaches respect for women. Is it these views that have so upset the party hierarchy – they’re not exactly surprising – or is it her support for Mr Salmond and her perceived unease about the proposed Hate Crime Bill and the Government’s equally obnoxious proposed Gender Recognition reforms?
A more immediate concern now arises about what sort of country the Scottish Government wants to shape before and after independence. This is when the picture begins to darken considerably. There is something sinister being hatched here underneath our noses.
It’s becoming apparent to many in the wider Yes movement that the Scottish Government has been hollowed out by a group of fanatics who are influencing and making policies by stealth and subterfuge to suit their narrow agenda.
A wide-ranging poll conducted this week for Wings Over Scotland by Panelbase has already produced one astounding conclusion: that the number of SNP voters who’d be willing to sacrifice power for the sacred goal of independence has dropped from 82% to 59%. It bears out my worst fears for the future of the independence movement: that the party which alone is defined by this has now become so dazzled by the trinkets of high office that it’s fast losing the stomach for the fight.
Instead, it seems, party managers would rather Scotland be used as a pilot for an experiment in gender tyranny reinforced by an Orwellian surveillance programme. They have made independence subservient to a different agenda.
It is not acceptable for public cash to be handed out to the newspaper sector in Scotland under the guise of government adverts which will have questionable impact. There are citizen websites that are more widely read and trusted than these newspapers.
The YES Movement dispairs and not surprisingly it is becoming harder and harder for many to hold their nose and give their vote to the SNP one last time (but will it really be the last time, they've said that so many times before) in the hope that this time it will finally mean something ....
Hold! Hold! Hoooooold! ....
Maybe it will take the dismantling and reforming of the SNP before Independence is finally realised and that might be after 2025!
Brutal video! ... and he hits so many nails on the head with an atomic hammer! ... but ...
- He demonstrates the very "cringe" that this "cultural lobotomy" has produced. You would never hear an Irishman, for instance, slagging Guinness and Irish Stew with such venom.
- The Scottish Government may have "splaffed" 80M Pounds on the Dundee V & A, but it brought a lot of work and business to a deprived area whether you like what's on show or not. Curiously he doesn't complain about the ??M?B? Pounds "splaffed" on the Queensferry Bridge.
- The SNP might like to/love to (in their wildest dreams) "manage" the "cultural expression" of the YES Movement, but THEY DON'T! ... and as such we now have it seriously proposing alternative List Seat Parties to force the SNP's hand on Independence (as he earlier noticed).
It might be necessary to "break" the SNP before the Holyrood Scottish Elections next May2021 or at least wressle back from the dark control of the State. It's quite telling that with all the internal divsions of the party and conspirital problems facing Nicola Sturgeon - they barely merit a mention in the MSM - Funny that!
It seems all will eventually be decided in court -
It will end up in the Supreme Court and with all respect I would ask the justices to consider this one binding agreement between the UK and Scottish Governments.
“The United Kingdom and Scottish Governments are committed, through the Memorandum of Understanding between them and others, to working together on matters of mutual interest and to the principles of good communication and mutual respect. The two governments have reached this agreement in that spirit. They look forward to a referendum that is legal and fair producing a decisive and respected outcome. The two governments are committed to continue to work together constructively in the light of the outcome, whatever it is, in the best interests of the people of Scotland and of the rest of the United Kingdom.”
Note the phrases “in the best interests” and “working together on matters of mutual interest and to the principles of good communication and mutual respect”. And that whole paragraph is the final one of the Edinburgh Agreement…
Judges don’t decide matters on what politicians say, thankfully, but what laws and agreements state. Keatings may win his case and we’ll all know where we stand, but I think it will be the UKSC that will eventually decide on the legitimacy of a second referendum. The legal case for indyref2 is strong and we should start preparing for it now.
Not that we have much faith in the Law and/or Court after the stitch ups of Alex Salmond, Craig Murray and Wings' Rev. Stu Cambell!
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