Great guy for delivering a funny punch line is Alex.
And he punches holes in the opposition in this one.
Off-the-cuff - he nails every opposition weak spot.
His "Empire2" remark is at 3 minutes in the video:
And Nicola's Brexit Ambush has triggered
a surge in similar separatist sentiments:
... and whom will equally unfortunately ALL be deeply disappointed when I suspect they are ALL sold down the river in any #Brexit deal with the EU.
I'm not sure of their number perhaps 20,000, but they are already lost to the YES cause. My only hope is that their number is compensated by the EU nationals who see an Indy-Scotland as part of the EU allowing them to stay and work and live in Scotland.
Well, the Scottish Parliament was in the middle of a debate to vote on calling #ScotRef but some fucker went ape-shit down in London, near Westminster and the vote was postponed out of solidarity with its "sister" parliament.
The UK are trying desperately to avoid #ScotRef, implying without actually saying that they will block it (and we all know how that will play out). Theresa May has said "Now is not the time", instead she would rather it was held after the #Brexit bus has driven off the cliff and things are fucked beyond repair, oh and when the EU nationals can't then vote, oh and nor will the 16-17 year olds if she has her way, you know, those most likely to vote YES!
On Tuesday the Scottish Parliament voted by 69 (SNP & SGreens) to 59 (Unionists) to grant the Scottish Government permission to seek a Section 30 order and start moves towards a second independence referendum.
Today (Wednesday 29 March) marks the delivery of Theresa May’s message to the president of the European Council Donald Tusk setting out her key negotiation issues ahead of a two-year process of divorce talks.
First Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon had set including a proposed compromise in the letter as a key challenge to the Tory Government last December.
“We want the UK Government to make clear when it triggers Article 50 that it intends to stay in the Single Market and the Customs Union. If it will not do so, we want the UK Government to seek as part of its negotiation a differentiated solution for Scotland as set out here,” she said.
The Tories and their little helpers in the Labour party in Scotland have shown themselves in their true colours. The Tories with their arrogant contempt for democracy and refusal to accept votes which don’t go their way, and a Labour which is so blinded by its tribal hatred of the SNP that it’s acting as an enabler for the very sort of nationalism that it claims to oppose. Theresa May has pushed us all off the Brexit cliff, and Scottish Tory after Scottish Tory has lined up to push Scotland off along with the rest of the country and together with Labour they’re taking a knife to our parachute. Make no mistake, this is a direct assault on Scottish democracy. This is an attempt by Westminster’s little helpers to ensure that Scotland cannot have a say, cannot have a voice, cannot have a choice in its future. And it must be resisted by every legal means possible.
Theresa May wants us all to unite behind her and her vision for Brexit. That’s not going to happen. The only way that we’ll get behind Theresa and her Tories is so we can push them off the Brexit cliff while we remain behind. We will resist them with every fibre, with every thought and deed. Theresa May might think that she can stop Scotland from having a voice, but she’s going to be sadly disappointed. If she continues to obstruct us, there are other paths to a vote. And Scottish democracy will win. Theresa’s pushing us off the cliff, but it’s her precious Union that’s going to smash on the Brexit rocks below.
The Unionist side and the Tories in particular are getting more and more agitated and agressive in their responses to what is basic democracy. Nothing to too low for them and alarmingly they are increasingly playing to sectarian themes.
Prior to the historic vote approving a new independence referendum in the Scottish Parliament yesterday (Tuesday 28 March) I, like many others, wrote to the MSPs who purport to represent me urging them to respect the Scottish Government’s mandate; honour the democratic will of the Scottish electorate; and reject their parties’ calls to deny Scotland’s democratic right of self-determination. The responses I received from representatives of the British parties at Holyrood were unsurprising, but no less deplorable for being only what I expected.
Common to the feeble rationalisations of their craven conduct was the customary nonsense about there having been an undertaking that the first independence referendum was a ‘once in a generation/lifetime’ event. I say nonsense, not only because there never was any such undertaking, but because there could be no such undertaking. It not only didn’t happen, it couldn’t happen. The incessant whining about this mythical ‘promise’ betrays a fundamental failure to comprehend the nature of the democratic right of self determination. A right which is vested entirely in the people of Scotland. A right which cannot be limited, constrained or withdrawn by any politician, political party or elected administration.
Who can deny that the imperious, domineering, contemptuous attitude of Theresa May’s ‘One Nation’ British nationalist regime has altered the union and deformed the democratic space within which the constitutional debate is conducted?
Who can deny that the shrill, irreverent and all too often infantile behaviour of the British parties at Holyrood has been deleterious to all political discourse in Scotland?
Who can deny that, in a test of loyalty which asked them to choose between Scottish democracy and an increasingly obscene and irrational British nationalism, MSPs from the British parties chose the latter. They chose to forsake Scotland for the dogma of ‘The Union At Any Cost’.
It should never have come to this. It could all have been so very different.
Now, regrettably, we must recognise that the ‘once in a lifetime opportunity’ we had in 2014 is gone. Independence is as inevitable now as it was then. But it cannot now be a graceful or an amicable process. Our best bet may be to get it over with as quickly as possible.
If a Scot anywhere says, give me my country to govern again, he is judged a fool, and everything is done to demean him and mock him.
When an Englishman says he wants his country back to govern again, and shouts freedom into the face of Europeans, his countrymen praise him and applaud.
The only freedom the people of Scotland can get is through the struggle to regain the civil rights we don’t have but English do, and all those they have lost and don’t care a damn that they have forfeited.
On the days you wonder what your role is in Scotland, and what your future is in it, and the future of your children, remember this: you are not and never will be English. But you might just be accepted if you say you are British. When you say you are British you have given up the fight for political and social equality. You are saying it is a consolation, at least you are not completely Scottish.
If you are happy to kneel before inane, irrational, grotesque colonial cruelty, ready to die for another nation’s wars, no one but you chose that destiny.
The rest of us have had enough. We choose to govern our nation again.
*This next article is outstanding!
I thoroughly recommend that you read it in full - I think it explains the "English/British" and #Brexit better than any other I have read.
Brexit is the result of an English delusion, a crisis of identity resulting from a failure to come to terms with the loss of empire and the end of its own exceptionalism, argues Cambridge University professor Nicholas Boyle
There is a great lie peddled about the referendum: that it expressed the will of the British people. The pattern of voting showed up a colossal divergence between England, with its Welsh appendage, on the one hand, and Scotland and Northern Ireland on the other.
To explain the referendum result as a ‘howl of pain at austerity’ is a pious flight from reality. It is to ignore, to cover over again, the wound, festering below the threshold of public consciousness for two generations, which the referendum opened up to the air.
Those who voted Leave in the referendum were not voting about globalisation or stagnating living standards or austerity and declining welfare payments, they were voting about the EU, and it is condescension to pretend otherwise. But they were not being asked by the Leave campaign to express a preference for a particular rationally argued and practically feasible economic and political alternative to membership of the EU – that is evident, for none was offered before the referendum and none has emerged since. They were being asked to express an emotion about membership, and the English, but not the Irish or Scots, felt so urgent a need to express it that they threw reason and practicality to the winds.
The slogan ‘English votes for English laws’ was a first sign that resurgent Scottish self-confidence was provoking the English to emerge from narcissism into a recognition that the world – indeed, the island of Great Britain – contains people other than themselves. However, not until there is a separate English Parliament, giving expression to that separate English identity, will the delusions that led England to Brexit finally be dissipated by contact with reality. And perhaps then, with their psychosis healed, the English will apply to rejoin the EU.
Anyway, as today is #NationalUnicornDay, here's Gerry & pals, once again, singing that old favourite about freeing the chains of our National Animal ...
There will be a "snap" General Election on 8th June 2017 - which nobody was really expecting, so what could have brought it all on? ...
Maybe this has something to do with it -
Tory MPs face being prosecuted for electoral fraud while they are fighting the upcoming general election campaign
The CPS confirmed it must announce whether it will prosecute before 8 June
Conservative MPs accused of breaking election spending rules at the last election face the possibility of being prosecuted by the Crown while they are in the middle of fighting their re-election campaigns at this year’s general election.
14 police forces have sent files to the Crown Prosecution Service relating to the Tory 2015 ‘battle bus’ scheme, which it has been alleged led to Tory candidates breaking strict spending limits on elections.
The CPS is currently reviewing the evidence and considering whether to charge the MPs with breaking the election spending limits, which are put in place to prevent those with wealthy backers from gaining an unfair advantage during general elections.
This means the CPS's announcement must by law fall while the MPs are campaigning for re-election, before 8 June.
No charges have yet been made against any MP. All 14 police forces who sent files to the CPS last year applied for a 12 month extension to the prosecution deadline, which would have otherwise elapsed last summer.
Channel 4 News reported on Tuesday evening that the CPS is considering prosecution against over 30 individuals with regards to 2015 election expenses.
So “over 30 individuals” – including 24 MPs, are under investigation and a Tory government with a majority of only 17! - hmmmm ... it's certainly nothing to do with unifying a divided Westminster nor the UK's #Brexit negotiations.
This has nothing to do with the UK’s negotiations to leave the EU
Despite the Prime Minister’s preposterous assertion that the UK Parliament is “divided” on the UK leaving the EU, it is clear to me that a snap General Election has nothing to do with those negotiations. The vote to trigger Article 50 was passed by a colossal 494 to 122, even after the UK government defeated every single amendment put forward by another party; even if Tim Farron manages to win every seat his party lost in 2015, Jeremy Corbyn’s party still backed the Article 50 process – meaning that the plan to derail, or at least alter, the terms of leaving the EU will be little closer than when we started. The only way the Article 50 process can be altered from its current course is if we see a massive change of heart from the two largest parties in the UK Parliament, both of whom are so terrified of being perceived as sabotaging The Will Of The People (as they define it, not the people themselves, of course) that they are utterly at the mercy of the monster they created.
This is everything to do with consolidating the UK Government’s power
The only reason I can see for the UK Government to hold a snap general election is if they fear the loss of their power. But why would they fear such a thing?
We are entering the endgame of the fight for Scottish Independence
Theresa May has spent months telling everyone that she would not hold a snap election. It would be wrong. “I mean what I say and I say what I mean” she said. She was lying.
This is just naked opportunism, but it does give an opportunity to have a Unionist-Free Scotland with these three MPs sitting uncomfortably on slender majorities:
A lot of people are just scunnered with politics.
It’s not so much ‘voter fatigue’ as ‘electoral enervation’. Lots of people are just disgusted with politicians of all sorts. The Brexit campaign was such a Festival of Lies and the changing faces of politicians who campaigned one-way then about-turned for obvious self-interest was shocking to many people. And, while the SNP has a cohort of dedicated fans, many people are bone-tired with this level of political frenzy married to this level of political inertia. It’s like a very angry logjam.
This election will be about Brexit, about Scotland and about Ireland. It will also almost inevitably lead to the split of the Labour Party. ...
In seeking a mandate May is also creating an opportunity for Sturgeon and Harvie to capture one too.
There’s other factors too. The Crown Prosecution Service will deliver their judgement on Tory Election Fraud in the coming days. Tory support for the Rape Clause will be fresh in peoples minds and has halted Ruth Davidson’s (perceived) advances.
To what extent will Scottish voters vote above party interest and vote anti-Tory is the key question.
You could say that in a very real sense, people are coming together and uniting behind the opportunities that lie ahead.
Well, this changes everything. We’re now staring at the carpet-bagging of democracy as a Prime Minister who said Now is not the time to Scotland (there are more important things to do) decides it is nevertheless the right time for her own agenda.
And why does she seek a new mandate? Didn’t she tell us the narrow Brexit vote was all the authority she needed – not only to pursue an exit but a hard one at that – outwith the Single Market and Customs Union. Now it seems that wasn’t the case at all. She will use the evidence of the opinion polls, which lay bare the collapse of Labour opposition, to endorse her no-holds-barred anti-EU approach. That’s a handbrake turn you’re witnessing.
And, with Scotland more or less out of her calculations because of the SNP franchise, this is an England-only election in her eyes. That’s where the hotbed of racism and parochialism is to be found, mostly outwith the metropolitan centres. They are the seedbeds of discontent she claims to represent in her strident Britain First rhetoric. Cleaning up in England where the official opposition is scattered like post explosion debris, means dragging the other nations of the greatest union in the history of the world along with her, like it or not.
But why should we buy into her duplicitous agenda? She has throughout treated us with contempt and I’m tired of wringing our hands and MSPs running to the media to complain. This is political opportunism on a grand scale and whatever we vote in Scotland, she will ignore it. After all she already has.
Do Scots continue to beg for ‘permission’ to ask our own people if this is acceptable or would we rather find a home of our own inside the EU? In the face of Tory chicanery, I lack the respect for them and their process to keep on seeking their approval for a democratic right. I lack the sense of inferiority to treat them like masters who know best. They ignore our election victories, even when the results are filling their revered green benches. They dismiss our request for an escape route.
Shouldn’t we bypass the failed referendum route and upgrade our demand?
The delicate, softly-softly approach is terribly correct and I know that’s how the world of diplomacy likes it but there is now a listening ear in Brussels which was once deaf. If it hears a clear demand from a duly elected parliament in part of a member state being ignored – again – is not the basis of the EU, as a guarantor of democracy, challenged? In fact do the normal protocols which dictate non-interference in the affairs of a state – as in Catalonia/ Spain – still apply? In our case it is the continuance of membership which is threatened by the Brexit vote, something that does not apply in Spain or another member state. Can the EU really stand by and watch long-time members who have expressed a wish to stay, lose their European citizenship and get pushed out against their will? Whatever the diplomatic niceties, I suggest the image of the EU would be tarnished.
It’s clear to me that May will not relent on a free vote and will use her greater majority in June to crush it. Do we stand by and allow our argument to be flattened by those who are no respecters of democracy?
Let us take May’s lead. She seeks to use a General Election as a mandate for hard Brexit. Let us use it as a mandate for independence. Let us say a vote for an independence party in June IS a vote, not for another doomed referendum request, but for national independence.
For May, this is her Erdoğan election, the vote to destroy all opposition, the vote to give her absolute power, unchallenged and unconstrained. It’s a vote to give May her Henry VIII powers and to rule by decree. Theresa May wants to achieve unity by silencing everyone who opposes her. And Scotland is a part of that opposition. Theresa May intends to crush Scotland by achieving a massive majority in England. That’s how the Union works. May thinks that consensus is achieved by silencing and sidelining those who disagree.
Despite the seeming insistence of the Unionist media that the SNP needs to increase the numbers of seats it holds, it means nothing at all even if the Unionist parties do manage to claw back a couple of seats. Barring something catastrophic, it remains a certainty that the SNP will be returned with a massive majority of Scottish seats, and a vote share that’s pushing 50%. Even though May is likely to end up with a huge majority in Westminster, she’ll certainly do so with a lower share of the vote than the SNP attain in Scotland. If this election gives May her mandate for a hard Brexit, it will also give the SNP a mandate for a second independence referendum. By calling this election now May has undermined one of her own arguments against a second Scottish independence referendum. She will no longer be able to argue that Scotland doesn’t want it. Now is the time after all.
Scotland needs to make a choice about what sort of country we want to be. Vote Tory and rubber stamp May’s hard Brexit which will turn the UK into a tax haven for the rich with low wages and no social protection for the rest of us, or vote SNP and the chance to create a better country that looks after all its citizens. Now is the time.
There's the small matter of the Local Council Elections taking place next week on 4th May, which might see the final demise of BLiS (British Labour in Scotland) and relieving them of any political responsibility whatsoever in Scotland - which would be good!
ManAtTheWindow - yeah that's the one and a fine piece of work it is! Many people seem to have had access blocked to it, so it must be worth a look!
Anyway, the Local Elections are over with a clear win for the SNP, an improvement for the "independence supporting" Greens and the unionist vote basically cannabalising itself and manifesting for the Tories.
It’s come to a pretty pass indeed when the Telegraph is the bastion of truth.
Because if you listened to the Unionist opposition and media today, you’d come away with a very different impression of what’s just happened.
It’s weird enough when parties and media try to rewrite history long after the event in the hope of catching out the unalert reader. But when they try to tell people the exact opposite of what they just saw happen with their own eyes mere hours ago, it’s a tougher message to flog, and even Scotland’s most right-wing papers cared enough about the tattered remnants of their credibility not to follow the BBC’s lead.
The cooncil election results are in, and we’ve learned a few things. Despite the weeping wailing and gnashing of teeth over Tory gains in places like Shettleston, Ferguslie Park and Ravenscraig, these are mostly things which are good for the longer term picture for the independence campaign. Whatever the Tories and their pals in the press say, we’re still on course for another independence referendum, and we’re still on course to win it.
The Tory victories in this week’s council elections in Scotland are the last roar of a toothless and senescent British lion. Despite throwing everything into making this a campaign against another independence referendum, despite completely ignoring all other policies except opposition to a second independence vote, the Tories still could only come a very very distant second. Their gains were almost entirely at the expense of Labour, and they failed to make any significant dent in support for pro-independence parties despite a low turn out favouring a Tory pensioner vote. The SNP stayed more or less where they were and in fact made a few minor gains, while the Greens have also made a few gains, despite the fact that there was a very low turn out which traditionally favours the Conservatives. It’s the best result in local elections that the SNP have ever had, which is a peculiar definition of the defeat that the Unionist press will be trying to spin this as.
The realignment of Scottish politics is continuing. Labour have declined into irrelevance, the Lib Dem resurgence failed dismally to resurge, and the choice now facing Scotland is between an outward looking internationalist social democratic Scotland, and an inward looking nostalgic right wing Tory Britain. That’s going to be a much easier fight for the independence movement to win than a fight against a Unionist campaign that’s headed by the Labour party and its pretence that there’s a progressive veneer on the reactionary British state. That’s a campaign that we can win, and that we will win. These council elections give the independence movement every reason to be cheerful.
So, now on to the next election ....
Here's Janey Godley's take on it. You might remember her for her "unique" protest on Donald Trump's golf course -
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Yon voiceover video is a stoater. I don't know to what extent some of the nuances can transcend cultures but it certainly made me laugh heartily.
Here in Inverness, I've seen a fair bit of canvassing already, all of it by SNP activists. They're taking nothing for granted but they seem confident that their man, Drew Hendry, will hold on to the seat that he won from the Liberal Democrats last time round. The hard anti-independence vote is oozing towards the Tories - which is the logical repository for die-hard Unionists - but actually voting for a Conservative candidate is still a step too far for many supporters of traditionally left-leaning parties such as the Lib-Dems and Labour.
One thing that the independence campaign has definitely learned is that the Yes argument has to be taken to the soft No voters. There's no point in indy supporters all talking to each other in an echo chamber.
From a pro-independence point of view - i.e., mine - the Tories are the perfect opponent. Even though Labour is struggling for its life and seen to be useless at the moment, a very substantial portion of the electorate from working class backgrounds still feels a certain amount of residual gratitude to it for its past achievements. There's no comparable latent goodwill for the divisive Tories. Apart from their bedrock supporters - roughly 20%, I'd say - the Nasty party remains the easiest party to detest. Smug neo-fascists are as good an enemy as any Scottish nationalist could wish for. _________________ My real name is Gerry.
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