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Nat



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't know anything about the trustworthiness or newness of this info, but here it is...

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9/11 Proof: Fireman Charges Bombs Inside World Trade Center

American Free Press - Victor Thorn - One of New York’s own firefighters says publicly that 9-11 couldn’t have been the work of Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, but instead was planned, coordinated and executed by elements within our own government.

www.americanfreepress.net


FIRE OFFICER SAYS FIREMEN, COPS KNOW TRUTH
By Victor Thorn

American Free Press
November 11, 2006


‘BOMBS INSIDE WTC’


NEW YORK CITY, N.Y.—On the morning of Sept. 11, 2005, New York City auxiliary fire lieutenant Paul Isaac Jr. asserted, yet again, that 9-11 was an inside job. “I know 9-11 was an inside job. The police know it’s an inside job; and the firemen know it too,” said Isaac.

The ramifications of this statement are immense: One of New York’s own firefighters says publicly that 9-11 couldn’t have been the work of Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, but instead was planned, coordinated and executed by elements within our own government.

He also added, after pointing to throngs of police officers standing around us, that, “We all have to be very careful about how we handle it.”

Isaac reiterated what a 9-11 survivor told this journalist during our protest at Ground Zero on Sept. 11, 2005—that emergency radios were buzzing with information about bombs being detonated inside the World Trade
Center towers.

Also, Isaac directly addressed a gag order that has been placed on firemen and police officers in New York.

“It’s amazing how many people are afraid to talk for fear of retaliation or losing their jobs,” said Isaac, regarding the FBI gag order placed on law enforcement and fire department officials, preventing them from openly talking about any inside knowledge of 9-11. There is more information related to Isaac circulating in on-line and print reports, so here again we are hearing first-hand evidence from individuals who were on the scene, such as live witness William Rodriguez, saying that the World Trade Center towers were brought down not by the airliner’s impact or the resulting jet fuel fires, but instead by a deliberately executed controlled demolition.

Tragically, due to heavy-handed pressure from officials at the city, state and federal levels, we are still not hearing the entire story.

Researcher Vincent Sammartino, who was also at the WTC “open grave site” on the afternoon of Sept. 11, 2005, wrote the following on the on-line news web site APFN: “I just got back from Ground Zero. People know the truth. Half of the police and firemen were coming up to us and telling us that they know that 9-11 was an inside job. They were told not to talk about it. But they were supporting what we were doing. I had tears in my eyes.”



Victor Thorn is the author of New World Order Exposed, and co-host of WING TV. For more information, visit Thorn’s web site at wingtv.net or write P.O. Box 10495, State College, PA 16805-0495. New World Order Exposed (#1080, $25, 560 pps., softcover) and 9-11 On Trial (#1178, 175 pages, $14, booklet) can be ordered from FIRST AMENDMENT BOOKS. Write 645 Pennsylvania Avenue SE, Suite 100, Washington, D.C. 20003. Call toll free 1-888-699-NEWS (6397) to order by Visa or MasterCard.

(Issue #40, October 3, 2005)


Not Copyrighted. Readers can reprint and are free to redistribute - as long as full credit is given to American Free Press - 645 Pennsylvania Avenue SE, Suite 100 Washington, D.C. 20003

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/bombs_inside_wtc.html


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Top Reasons Indicating an Inside Job Reply with quote

What's your take on BBC apparently reporting that building 7 collapsed before it really did? Looks like building 7 is in the background of the reporter's head and still standing while she is reporting it. The video is available on the ahmmm....Alex jones site Shocked Shocked Shocked Why is it being released now?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Top Reasons Indicating an Inside Job Reply with quote

puffdaddy wrote:
What's your take on BBC apparently reporting that building 7 collapsed before it really did? Looks like building 7 is in the background of the reporter's head and still standing while she is reporting it. The video is available on the ahmmm....Alex jones site Shocked Shocked Shocked Why is it being released now?

see, what happened is that an anomaly in the speed of light caused the speed of light between the reporter and wtc7 to reduce to approximately 0.25mm/per second (not per second per second, just per second)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Top Reasons Indicating an Inside Job Reply with quote

F**k you Matt. I guess you are pretty cool now huh?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Top Reasons Indicating an Inside Job Reply with quote

puffdaddy wrote:
F**k you Matt. I guess you are pretty cool now huh?

not really Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

9/11 was eventually an inside job because:

- The official commission didn't give enough details about Bin laden, Atta and co's involvement in the attacks.
- The US reaction -classic war, use of torture...- was inadapted for the nature of threat.
- Black-out surrounding pakistani-saudi-american intelligency "cooperation" before and less after 9/11.
- Bin laden and co was spotted guilty before investigation was started.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm reading a great book called Dark Union, about the hither-to unknown large conspiracy behind the Abraham Lincoln assassination.

His admin had been trading with the enemy, giving meat to the starving South in exchange for cotton to the starving manufacturing sector up North, and when the war wound down, Lincoln wanted to stop the deals. Millions would have been lost, and a plot was hatched to remove him from power, and install Andrew Johnson, who favored not only continuing the covert trade deals, but also punishing the South financially. The immediate plot was to simply kidnap Lincoln from the Ford Theater, but when the group developed cold feet and tried to call it off, the grandiose, hot-headed actor John Wilkes Booth decided to take matters into his own hands and strike the blow for his own emotionally-driven political reasons.

Immediately following the assassination of Lincoln and the simultaneous attempt on bed-ridden Sec. Seward, Sec. Stanton - considered a solid member of the conspiracy by the authors - began an immediate covert program of not only directing suspicion to conform to his "Richmond ordered the hit" cover story, but also dishonestly painting himself as a targeted entity, to thrown off any suspicions that he had any hand in it.

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In Washington, behind the panoply of official mourning, a pro­cess of concealment continued: a systematic recourse to doctored statements, suppressed testimony, and planted evidence. In Room 126 at the Kirkwood Hotel, one floor above Andrew Johnson's quarters (the new president had not yet moved into the White House), items allegedly found were touted as evidence of a criminal liaison be­tween Atzerodt (peripheral conspirator in the kidnap plot, but who had no hand in either assassination attempt), Herold, and Booth.

The room was registered as Atzerodt's but had not been slept in. The Kirkwood's day clerk, who had entered Room 126 earlier that morning, found nothing there and said so. His testimony was ignored. Publicity was given only to discoveries and statements, genuine or otherwise, that pointed to a bloody plot hatched in Richmond and directed at a broad array of the Union government.


Not very much has changed in Washington since those days. Confused

It's quite the book, refreshing my interest in all things Civil War era, as well as some astounding revelations regarding the complexity of spy-work that was prolific in even that early an historical period. Quite a few dirty espionage tricks had already been perfected by then.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:58 am    Post subject: Lincoln Reply with quote

Try this for an alternative on lincoln -- I believe he had issued greenbacks to finance the war, which was a problem because the US did not have to borrow money to finance the war.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject: Terrorist Physics Reply with quote

Greetings, this is my first post.

Reason #1. It is physically impossible for an airliner to cause the WTC towers to collapse straight down.

I did a search on this thread for the word "tons" and it was not mentioned.

We are talking about a building 110 stories tall. Didn't the people who designed it have to figure out how much steel and how much concrete to put on every level of the building? The buildings stood for 28 years so they must have gotten it somewhat correct.

We should have had a table telling us the number of tons of steel and tons of concrete on every level of the building and the maximum load each level could hold within 6 weeks of 9/11. It has been 6 years. Do you know how many tons of steel were on the 80th floor of the south tower? How can you figure out if it is reasonable to think the fire could weaken enough steel in 56 minutes if you don't even know the quantity of steel? Some nitwit at the NIST is saying the building is 70% air by volume. Buildings are constructed to produce usable space and they stood for 28 years with that much space. It is the 30% that must be specified.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/cons-flash.html

Even if the plane could cause the upper floors to collapse how could they stay centered on the lower floors as they fell? There had to be more steel and concrete as you go down the building. Every level had to support the combined weights of all levels above it. There should have been a stub of the building left with debris from the upper floors to one side.

If the plane could do this then every engineering school in the country should confirm it. The laws of physics don't give a damn about conspiracies.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

psikeyhackr

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If the plane could do this then every engineering school in the country should confirm it.


They already have.

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The laws of physics don't give a damn about conspiracies.


And conspiracy wackos don't give a damn about the laws of physics.

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We should have had a table telling us the number of tons of steel and tons of concrete on every level of the building and the maximum load each level could hold within 6 weeks of 9/11. It has been 6 years. Do you know how many tons of steel were on the 80th floor of the south tower? How can you figure out if it is reasonable to think the fire could weaken enough steel in 56 minutes if you don't even know the quantity of steel? Some nitwit at the NIST is saying the building is 70% air by volume. Buildings are constructed to produce usable space and they stood for 28 years with that much space. It is the 30% that must be specified.


http://wtc.nist.gov/oct05NCSTAR1-1index.htm

You CAN read, can't you??? Everything you just asked about is here. Quantities, qualities, construction details, all there for those who really want to know.

And if you really want to know why the buildings collapsed...

http://wtc.nist.gov/oct05NCSTAR1-6index.htm

It is, after all, kind of stupid to say someone is lying to you unless you first find out what they are actually saying, hmmm???

Grumpy

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grumpy wrote:
You CAN read, can't you??? Everything you just asked about is here. Quantities, qualities, construction details, all there for those who really want to know.

Grumpy Cool


It's obvious you can read what ain't there. I downloaded the entire NIST report and burned it to DVD months ago. I have searched it dozens of different ways. It does not even specify the total quantity of concrete in the buildings. But it says one plane had 5 tons of cargo and the other had 9 tons.

Code:
 Volume in drive H is NIST_Dimming
 Volume Serial Number is 8D32-A61F

 Directory of H:\

01/15/2007  07:13 AM       390,624,090 Global Dimming.gvi
01/15/2007  06:14 AM               938 GlobalDimming.gvp
01/22/2007  03:55 PM         8,965,229 NISTNCSTAR1-1.pdf
01/22/2007  03:57 PM         9,084,162 NISTNCSTAR1-1A.pdf
01/22/2007  04:00 PM        13,403,039 NISTNCSTAR1-1A_AppendixesA&B.pdf
01/22/2007  06:41 PM         8,363,877 NISTNCSTAR1-1A_AppendixesC-G.pdf
01/22/2007  04:08 PM        11,615,938 NISTNCSTAR1-1B.pdf
01/22/2007  04:10 PM         4,765,027 NISTNCSTAR1-1C.pdf
01/22/2007  04:14 PM        25,052,971 NISTNCSTAR1-1C_Appendixes.pdf
01/22/2007  04:14 PM           567,081 NISTNCSTAR1-1D.pdf
01/22/2007  04:14 PM           533,912 NISTNCSTAR1-1E.pdf
01/22/2007  04:15 PM           394,866 NISTNCSTAR1-1F.pdf
01/22/2007  04:15 PM           267,607 NISTNCSTAR1-1G.pdf
01/22/2007  04:15 PM         1,052,488 NISTNCSTAR1-1H.pdf
01/22/2007  04:15 PM           236,217 NISTNCSTAR1-1I.pdf
01/22/2007  04:16 PM           501,500 NISTNCSTAR1-1J.pdf
01/22/2007  04:25 PM        60,195,365 NISTNCSTAR1-2.pdf
01/22/2007  04:29 PM         6,880,619 NISTNCSTAR1-2A.pdf
01/22/2007  05:06 PM           257,996 NISTNCSTAR1-2B_AppendixA.pdf
01/22/2007  07:41 PM        36,044,735 NISTNCSTAR1-2B_Chaps1-8.pdf
01/22/2007  05:05 PM        34,234,947 NISTNCSTAR1-2B_Chaps9-11.pdf
01/22/2007  05:22 PM        10,167,107 NISTNCSTAR1-3.pdf
01/22/2007  05:22 PM         1,340,439 NISTNCSTAR1-3A.pdf
01/22/2007  05:23 PM         4,292,114 NISTNCSTAR1-3B.pdf
01/22/2007  05:27 PM        15,712,269 NISTNCSTAR1-3CAppxs.pdf
01/22/2007  05:26 PM        41,265,075 NISTNCSTAR1-3Cchaps.pdf
01/22/2007  05:28 PM         6,748,074 NISTNCSTAR1-3D.pdf
01/22/2007  05:29 PM        30,649,532 NISTNCSTAR1-3E.pdf
01/22/2007  05:30 PM         3,971,317 NISTNCSTAR1-4.pdf
01/22/2007  05:31 PM        48,988,581 NISTNCSTAR1-4A.pdf
01/22/2007  05:32 PM         9,210,313 NISTNCSTAR1-4B.pdf
01/22/2007  05:32 PM        13,032,947 NISTNCSTAR1-4C.pdf
01/22/2007  05:34 PM         4,068,940 NISTNCSTAR1-4D.pdf
01/22/2007  05:35 PM        62,549,933 NISTNCSTAR1-5.pdf
01/22/2007  05:56 PM       127,724,709 NISTNCSTAR1-5A_AppxD-G.pdf
01/22/2007  06:00 PM       110,215,689 NISTNCSTAR1-5A_AppxH-M.pdf
01/22/2007  05:49 PM       114,581,523 NISTNCSTAR1-5A_chap_1-8.pdf
01/22/2007  05:52 PM        59,390,788 NISTNCSTAR1-5A_chap_9-AppxC.pdf
01/22/2007  06:03 PM        19,804,024 NISTNCSTAR1-5B.pdf
01/22/2007  06:03 PM         5,057,924 NISTNCSTAR1-5B_AppxD-G.pdf
01/22/2007  06:04 PM         6,137,652 NISTNCSTAR1-5C.pdf
01/22/2007  06:04 PM         2,491,950 NISTNCSTAR1-5D.pdf
01/22/2007  06:05 PM         5,569,132 NISTNCSTAR1-5E.pdf
01/22/2007  06:06 PM        52,866,983 NISTNCSTAR1-5F.pdf
01/22/2007  06:07 PM        24,171,050 NISTNCSTAR1-5G.pdf
01/22/2007  06:09 PM        26,537,581 NISTNCSTAR1-6.pdf
01/22/2007  06:14 PM        10,360,209 NISTNCSTAR1-6A.pdf
01/22/2007  06:39 PM         7,090,310 NISTNCSTAR1-6B.pdf
01/22/2007  06:40 PM         8,363,877 NISTNCSTAR1-6C.pdf
01/22/2007  06:43 PM        16,929,539 NISTNCSTAR1-6D.pdf
01/22/2007  06:43 PM         4,420,586 NISTNCSTAR1-7.pdf
01/22/2007  06:44 PM           291,635 NISTNCSTAR1-7A.pdf
01/22/2007  06:44 PM         1,303,058 NISTNCSTAR1-7B.pdf
01/22/2007  06:44 PM         3,050,554 NISTNCSTAR1-8.pdf
01/22/2007  07:30 PM        17,651,414 NISTNCSTAR1-8_AppendixesA-LFinal.pdf
01/22/2007  03:53 PM        18,164,880 NISTNCSTAR1CollapseofTowers.pdf
              56 File(s)  1,507,214,312 bytes
               0 Dir(s)               0 bytes free


You are of course welcome to try to prove me wrong by finding the specification for the concrete and telling us where it is.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did any of you at engineering schools attend a lecture by the structural engineer of the WTC towers? It was an interesting lecture at Oregon State Univ. I attended at the urging of my structures prof. He lectured about the design and construction of the towers first, then about the collapse. He said he hadn't done any research himself because he was trying to stay away from the controversy. He related the theory of jet fuel super-heating the steel then causing a pancake effect. He didn't say if he believed it or not only simply that is what others are saying caused the collapse. He chose his words very carefully and was extremely restrained in his responses to questions. He actually said he couldn't comment in response to some questions. The lecture was about three years after 9/11.

The video drew some interesting connections... but we'll never know the truth. Just like JFK.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/archive/topic/127290-1.html

All of the engineering schools agree huh? I went to engineering school. Most of nerds are chicken shits that won't stick their necks out and risk careers.

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