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IronClad
Joined: 10 Aug 2011 Posts: 435 Location: Kent
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Leon, I think you are right. It is only now that I have appreciated that governments quantitive easing could easily get us on the road to recovery and also give the public a boost of moral.
Either they are dummies and/or blackmailed and/or promised lucrative positions in the private sector or for some other reason lying about the whole thing. They are the government, damn it.
We are told it is blackmail. We know it is theft. So crime pays.
But on the other hand, the media are bombarding us with unbelievable stories involving "theft" one way or another and how poor the government is.
Either you believe it or you don't. More tend to believe it.
It is open and not fertive as most real thefts are. Have a feeling it's part of an agenda.
Demoralization. |
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leon
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1046 Location: 3d-rate nation
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Of course I am right. Let’s just not call it this idiotic term “quantitive easing” invented by some jerk in Federal Reserve, let’s call it what it is – money printing.
There is no avoidance to money printing either in healthy, expanding economy or stagnating and shrinking one. The question is who benefits?
In a healthy economy the National Economy benefits as a whole and every citizen benefits equally since money are printed for the purpose of building, maintaining and modernizing National Economical Platform – your public highways, rail, power grid, Common Hospitals, schools.
Millions of high-paying, outsource-proof jobs are created boosting the general optimism and demand for supplementary products.
In a stagnating, shrinking economy like we have today, a few selected benefits, money are only issued to enslave and asset-strip the rest of the Nation, National Infrastructure is looted on the cheap, prices for basic services are jacked up. (Medical and education seem to be taking a cake)
Millions of meaningful jobs are destroyed; Depression moral and economical sets in. Elites react by tightening up the screws to impose a police state.
The opposite word of Depression is not Recovery, it is Optimism |
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Rom

Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 417
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Interesting stuff below: "Zionist/Jewish" is diversion/cover for One World Order agents - that is headed by Papacy. I remember Lee Harvey Oswald met some Italian nobility just before the JFK murder (to make sure Oswald would do the right things for being a scapegoat?). The point here is the contact was of Italian nationality, that could be a high level Jesuit?
The Jesuits are intelligence, while "Khazars" are a people.The one does not exclude the other.
My guess is Obama is now controlled by FED, i.e. by Jesuits/Papacy ... they are probably running all the election scam too. Netanyahu, with his Italian fascist background is one of them? ... LaRouche is another agent? We have to check out everything here.
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is not a "Jewish plan" at all http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion The Nazis got it completely wrong, they were fooled by the Jesuits. The Zionist Declaration of War against Nazi Germany 1933 was rather a Jesuit Declaration of War against Germany.
http://www.pacinst.com/terrorists/chapter2/jackson.html
"The Rothschilds were Jesuits who used their Jewish background as a facade to cover their sinister activities. The Jesuits, working through Rothschild and Biddle, sought to gain control of the banking system of the United States.
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The Jesuits' scheming for a central bank in America was temporarily stopped during Andrew Jackson's presidency. He had opposed Calhoun's States Rights doctrine, and he stopped Biddle's attempt to continue the Central Bank. When other things fail, the Jesuit Oath declares that it is commendable to murder someone who stands in their way.
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The President had earned the undying hatred of monetary scientists, both in America and abroad. [The Jesuits were furious.] It is not surprising, therefore, that on January 30,1835, an assassination attempt was made against him. Miraculously, both pistols of the assailant misfired, and Jackson was spared by a quirk of fate. It was the first such attempt to be made against the life of a President of the United States.
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The Jesuit Order was dead serious about taking over the United States. They infiltrated into government at the highest levels, and used their agents in controlling the American banking system. They would also use assassination when necessary to destroy any opposition to their plans. Andrew Jackson was almost assassinated by a Jesuit plant, who bragged of powerful Europeans, (the Jesuits) that would set him free in case he was caught.
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leon
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1046 Location: 3d-rate nation
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| The Jesuits are intelligence, "Khazars" are a people and Rom is dead horse-beater |
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Rom

Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 417
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:31 am Post subject: |
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These globalist - Jesuits as "Central Intelligence Agency" - are operating in all capitals of course, but the capital with capital letters will more likely be the Vatican, and next continental Europa? ...considering the Pope is German. That means not London as LaRouche would like us to believe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican
"Vatican may refer to: Holy See, the central governing body of the Catholic Church and sovereign entity recognized by international law, consisting of the Pope and the Roman Curia. The Vatican can also be referred to as "The Holy City"."
That kind of protection they don't have in London. When "Svali" pledged allegiance she first was flown to Germany, then to the Vatican, where she joined a child sacrifice ceremony.
About LaRouche
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche
"Norman Bailey, formerly with the National Security Council, described LaRouche's staff in 1984 as one of the best private intelligence services in the world, while the Heritage Foundation, a right wing think tank, wrote that he leads "what may well be one of the strangest political groups in American history."[4]"
Seems like a Jesuit type agency... |
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leon
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1046 Location: 3d-rate nation
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:14 am Post subject: |
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"Miraculously, both pistols of the assailant misfired, and Jackson was spared by a quirk of fate. It was the first such attempt to be made against the life of a President of the United States. "
Somehow the pistols do not misfire when shooting at real American presidents and political leaders like Hamilton, Lincoln, Kennedy. They just "misfire" when trying to shoot the British stooge Jackson, one of the worst American Presidents. |
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Rom

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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:34 am Post subject: |
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"British stooge Jackson, one of the worst American Presidents."
The worst president for the Jesuits I presume? What about giving us your source about Jackson as you were still BC at that time.
In case you don't know what a "source" is
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/source |
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atm

Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 3578
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Rom
me finally agreeing with you: it be what the khazarian's be done it.
Innit. I'm lovin' it
atm |
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Peter

Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 2214 Location: The Canadian shield
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:20 pm Post subject: Action Jackson |
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No matter his record, he did take on the bankers and merits our respect for:
getting in the line of fire
doing the right thing
having a nickname like "stonewall" before it meant to stop discourse... _________________ The grand design, reflected in the face of Chaos. |
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leon
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1046 Location: 3d-rate nation
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Andrew Jackson brought the philosophy of the British Empire into the White House for the first time, destroying the Bank of the United States and the tariffs that protected American industry.
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Jackson was an enemy of the earlier, more nationalistic President Thomas Jefferson, whose administration (1801-09) had subpoenaed Jackson to testify as an unindicted co-conspirator in the treason trial of Aaron Burr.
President Jackson broke down the nation’s power over credit, tore down the tariffs protecting U.S. industry and wages, and blocked national expansion of canals and railroads.
As a result, the industrial economy crashed, and Southern states gave up plans to acquire industry and abolish slavery. A cheap-labor (“free-trade”) alliance of plantation slaveholders
and their British cotton customers fostered anti-national radicalism in the South. Jackson destroyed the previous American consensus behind nationalist economics, in which Southern leaders such as Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, and John C. Calhoun had all participated. This political
catastrophe is the origin of the Slave Power, and of the Civil War.
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IronClad
Joined: 10 Aug 2011 Posts: 435 Location: Kent
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Max Kaiser and Michael Hudson and other commentors for the people has been joined by Mark Melin, a guy in the industry who believes the industry is greater than any one individual in it particularly if they are a crook.
I have this feeling that true Americans have them on the run. There seems to be much confusion over what companies are and what Chaper of the bankruptcy laws apply. Enron has gone but now there is MF Global. I can't see how in any capitalistic society it pays some folk when companies fail and certainly if they are enginnered to fail. And surely it has to be clear what companies are. If they are brokers then isn't that clear what they are?
Now that Capital Account is on the case with Mark Melin - stuff is really going to happen. Can you sense it?
Old Capitalism and the Fascist state are now meeting head on. Capitalism will win. Old Capitalism will win over Fascist crooks or are they just common criminals?
We may be heading towards this whole organised crime outfit being outed and an intervention of Turner and other Sovereigns just moving in as natural as can be. |
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leon
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1046 Location: 3d-rate nation
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:18 am Post subject: |
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GOLDMAN SACHS REVEALED
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article33529.html
The GSax brand is being tarnished. To be sure, they remain a fixture in the USGovt finance ministry. Its diminutive leader Geithner makes absurd moronic pronouncements from time to time. A couple weeks ago, he claimed the crude oil price was rising from a strong USEconomy and its growth path. Nevermind the war drums over Iran. Nevermind the vast USFed monetary printing project. Nevermind the anti-US$ movement within the oil world. Geithner more recently proclaimed that more commonly seen Chinese Yuan bond issuance and loan grants would have a muted effect on the USDollar. He lives in a fantasy world indeed. In 2008, an important event occurred when a Russian fellow escaped with a proprietary GSax unix box complete with software, which enabled insider trading that peeked at the order flow. The FBI covered it up quickly and dutifully, in true Fascist Business Model fashion. But GSax has taken major blows. They have been caught concealing the Greek Govt debt condition, as it entered the Euro Monetary Union over ten years ago. Widespread investigations are ongoing within Europe, and the venerable firm cannot solicit protective help on the continent. Matt Taibbi would be pleased. The most recent case close to home involved Overstock.com, which was preyed upon by Goldman Sachs and Merrill Lynch, as the Wall Street firms engaged in naked shorting of its stock. But isn't Wall Street exempt from naked shorting statutes on the legal books? The court decision made the case known to the public, more details to come. A wise veteran once shared that to become a GSax vice president, one major fraud must reside on the professional resume, which was not prosecuted. He was not joking. It is a criminal enterprise. The Greek bond situation might still result in tremendous GSax loss if not censure. Let's see if the GSax preppy Monti remains in unelected office in Italy.
The Overstock.com case shows that the Cyndicated Bankers are still in charge and could pray on real productive enterprises without fear of prosecution. |
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IronClad
Joined: 10 Aug 2011 Posts: 435 Location: Kent
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:35 pm Post subject: Whistleblowing |
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c2dca1b2-710d-11e1-a7f1-00144feab49a.html#axzz1pmPDURcC
I reckon this is a classic case, may be not the first time, but a blue print for what is to come.
A classic inside job.
Simple to engineer everyone makes on the "deal" whilst the clients are shut out from their money and the investment lays dormant.
Conor Foley and Mr O'Kelly upped and left the company. Presumably still in possession of their passports.
Will this be handled by the industry and not law enforcement? Of course how else will folk make money out of it. If so then we can say good by to criminal justice and say hello to how business is done in this country.
This thread could turn into a record of such business deals that the law is not involved in but it won't until those on the forum come down to earth and stop speculating on who is behind everything.
Fintan will find the WorldSpread "whistleblowing" close to his heart but hopefully not close to any of his investments.
We run the risk of business interruption but not of the kind one can insure against.
Calls are being made for deregulation and an FSA off shoot is being called the FCA. The Financial Conduct Authority. If the conduct of the financial industry will be the scope of their reference then where will the core of the FSA come in?
The country is going down the pan. All we need is for Scotland to win independents and we are really screwed. |
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IronClad
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.fbi.gov/sacramento/press-releases/2012/southern-california-man-pleads-guilty-to-running-a-foreclosure-rescue-scheme
Just wondered what the FBI were doing now that the battle was being taken to the terrorists rather than the terrorists taking it to the west considering there was all this chaos in the financial world and obviously no more ponzi schemes since Berny Madoff had been locked up.
This guy seems to have found a slot to slip into between the homeowner who was near to foreclosure and the loss of the owners property by finding an investor to buy the house and leave it in the hands of the owner. Sounds a good idea since the government didn't fill the spot but I wonder where the original mortgagee comes into the picture.
This is effectively taking out another mortgage on the property with another mortgagee when the owner of the property was the original mortgagee. So instead of the owner paying the original mortgage he we paying another one. This guy was supposed to monitor the mortgage and he allegedly did not.
Since the home owner evidentally was able to pay the second mortgage how come he was near to foreclosure on the first one?
Anyway, this guy is an entrepreneur and in another time would probably be starting up a business. He may even be self employed. He is doing stuff that the government ought to be doing and yet he has been charged with fraud.
Is this another case of the little guy being collared and the corporation getting away with blue-collar crime?
Is the FBI filling their time in going after the little guy?
The home owner was almost once bitten was he going to be twice shy? No. He was wary of strangers baring gifts so we can assume he was fully aware of what he was getting into.
Is this a true crime? |
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Fintan Site Admin

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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Occupy's Challenge : Transformation and Innovative Self-Organization
by Tom Atlee
"The only way I can see Occupy continuing to expand and remain effective
is to become even more powerfully self-organizing - to actually innovate at
the intersection of self-organization and activism."
The Ascendence of Sociopaths in US Governance
by Doug Casey
In this article, I'm going to argue that the US government, in particular,
is being overrun by the wrong kind of person. It's a trend that's been in
motion for many years but has now reached a point of no return. In other
words, a type of moral rot has become so prevalent that it's institutional in
nature. There is not going to be, therefore, any serious change in the
direction in which the US is headed until a genuine crisis topples the
existing order. Until then, the trend will accelerate.....
Ideology Kills
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They only function when open. |
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