The Churchhill Gang or Who killed Franklin D. Roosevelt?

[leon]

For you conspiracy fans:

WHO KILLED FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT?




The World War II Cairo conference between Pres. Roosevelt, Prime Minister Churchill, and Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek ended on Oct. 26, 1943. That evening I was given orders to fly a group of participants from Cairo to Tehran. Up to that time, I had not been aware that there was going to be a Big Four meeting of the Super-Powers in Tehran.

As I went out to the plane that morning to get it ready to go, two limousines came from the city. They were T. V. Soong's Chinese delegates. I flew them to Tehran that day.

En route, I stopped at Habbaniyah in Iraq for refueling, and while on the ground an Air Force B-25 arrived with an old friend of mine flying it, and with L. Col. Elliott Roosevelt, the President's son. I introduced him and Roosevelt to the Chinese, and vice versa.

I don't know whether any of you ever realized this, but years later the fact that Elliott Roosevelt had gone to the Tehran conference brought up one of the most amazing untold facts in our history. I can only imagine why more had not been written about it.

Because Elliott had met Stalin in Tehran with his father in 1943, in late 1946, Gardner Cowless, publisher of LOOK magazine asked him to go to Moscow to interview Stalin.

Roosevelt accepted this offer and did interview Stalin there. At the end of a long interview, he turned to the Generalissimo and asked one more question, "Why is it that my mother has never been permitted to visit Moscow even though she has made three very formal applications for the trip?"

Stalin glared at Elliott and said, "You don't know why?"

Elliott replied, "No!"

Quickly, Stalin responded, "Don't you know who killed your father?"

Roosevelt-shocked-answered, "No."

Stalin rising from his chair, continued, "Well, I'll tell you why I have not invited her here. As soon as your father died, I asked my ambassador in Washington to go immediately to Georgia with a request to view the body." Stalin believed that if Gromyko could see the body he would confirm that the cerebral hemorrhage that had caused his death had caused extensive discoloration and distortion.

Elliot responded that he knew nothing about that and then Stalin said, "Your mother refused to permit the lid of the coffin to be opened so that my ambassador could see the body." Adding "I sent him there three times trying to impress upon your mother that it was very important for him to view the President's body. She never accepted that. I have never forgiven her."

This forced Elliott to ask this last question, "…but why?"

Stalin took a few steps around the office, and almost in a rage roared, "They poisoned your father, of course, just as they have tried repeatedly to poison me."

"They, who are they," Elliot asked

"The Churchill gang!" Stalin roared, "They poisoned your father, and they continue to try to poison me…the Churchill gang!"

I had heard, while in Tehran, that Roosevelt and Churchill had had a strenuous argument in front of Stalin and Chiang during the conference on the subject of decolonialization of South East Asia. I have read it in a government publication of the time. Then, this account of Elliott's visit to Moscow in 1946 was written and signed by him and appeared in the February 9, 1986 issue of the nationwide Sunday Supplement magazine "PARADE."

We all know that there are amazing stories that can not be found in the history books. That is what I am saying here. Most students have not been able to learn that Chiang Kai-shek was a member of this Four Power Conference in Tehran. But, I was there. I had flown the Chinese delegates there from Cairo, and I have read it in a Congressional Committee Report, "The U. S. Government and the Vietnam" Part 1-1945-1951" by the U. S. Government Printing Office, 1984.

Both sources have been in the public domain for more than 10 years. Why haven't we seen them, on campus, in the History books and in classes?

In 1953, in a toast before the New York Press Club, John Swinton, former Chief of Staff of the New York Times and the "Dean of his Profession" stated: (part extracted)

"If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone. The business of journalists is to destroy the truth; to pervert; to vilify; to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell this country and this race for their daily bread. We are the tools and vessels for rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

From my own experience, I know that there are countless journalists who could say that. Just consider what they said about Oliver Stone's Film "JFK" and about my own book "JFK, the CIA, Vietnam and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy."```





L. Fletcher Prouty

[atm]

leon

do you ever sleep?

atm

[leon]

With age I require less and less hours of night sleep. These days it is 5-6 hours. However, I sleep like a log. Just few days ago my wife was away on the farm and rat triggered house alarm. The friggin thing was raving for 2 hours and woke up half of the neighborhood before it woke me up.

[leon]

Wow, I havn't realized that L. Fletcher Prouty was such an interesting person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Fletcher_Prouty

"Prouty presented "a quartet of the greatest propaganda schemes ever put forth by man" that included Darwin's theory of evolution and Heisenberg's uncertainty principle"

I always had a problem, not with Evolution, but with Darwin's theory of evolution

Just lately I came to a conclusion that the whole Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics and Heisenberg's uncertainty principle is just Venetian/British Neo Liberal propaganda. I am even trying to work out an alternative interpretation.

[Continuity]

Prouty - oh yeah. You wouldn't believe just how many times that particular bloke shows up, especially around certain (pivotal) situations. I'd say that his opinions on the Uncertainty Principle and evolution are the least of it.

[leon]

"I'd say that his opinions on the Uncertainty Principle and evolution are the least of it."

For me it is huge. You see I am of the opinion that current theoretical physics is pretty much at the dead end, we are not getting anywhere close to "Unified Field" theory that Einstein dreamed about.

The Copenhagen interpretation of matter using the Wave Function is very smart, but seems too artificial.
On one end, since it represents the probability, it cannot be negative. But to explain such phenomena as interference we need it to be.

So, out of nowhere they declared that it's modulus represents the Probability, not the Function itself. I would buy that, but unfortunately they have to re-normalize the Function each time new solution to Schrodinger equation is found.

If there was a better, more logical, more beautiful interpretation that may mean giant leap in our theoretical and hence technological knowledge of the Universe.

But currently, the "Copenhagen" is the official science, very hard to break.

[leon]

I am surprised that I am not getting any responses about Stalin’s version of FDR death. After all, Stalin was sitting on top of two very resourceful intelligence agencies: KGB and GRU. GRU stands for “Glavnoye Rasvedivatelnoe Upravlenie” or Chief Intelligence Agency and was even more powerful than KGB. It was main military intelligence arm.
I have to admit that up to recently I was viewing Stalin as one of the worst National leaders in the world, but lately I start realizing that there are more dimensions to that dark period of Russian history.
One thing is for certain, Stalin was a big admirer of Franklin Roosevelt and everything American in general. He structured his re-industrialization program after Roosevelt’s New Deal reform of American Economy in the 1930s.
During last two centuries America, under such presidencies as Lincoln’s, McKinley’s, FDR’s and Kennedy’s was a true inspiration to the entire world.
It is such a shame that after the murder of JFK all we see are pathetic puppet figures of US Presidents. Obama is probably the worst of the pack since he managed to deceive large portion of American population.

It would be educational to find out that all four of US Presidents I have mentioned were murdered by British Agentura on orders coming from London.

[Peter]

[Peter]

[leon]

"If probability density was replaced by energy density? "

Well, energy cannot be negative as well (unless it's your ex-wife's). So how we level that with interference and other "wavery" qualities of light?

There is a definite point to stochastic qualities of physical Universe, I just don’t like the existing model. I have other possible interpretation that has to do with non-Euclidean metrics.