Yvonne Fletcher

[IronClad]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSDl-6jn0Xk

Some of the major events are being debated on the Internet amongst the people and have been turned into conspiracies theories, if they were not that already, JFK, RFK 9/11 & 7/7. The people have been right on top of the latter two but the former two have had to catch up with modern technology.

Website were sprouting up all across the globe after 9/11 and probably too after 7/7 or at least in Britain. The peoples eye's and ears were open from day one and word was put out there and ideas were formed early on as to what was going on or indeed changed as time went on.

Yvonne Fletcher did not get the benefit of people power and we didn't get the chance to exercise our grey matter because in those days the public were not so suspicious then as they are today and I guess everyone went along with the mainstream account. It is the Internet that has caused us to question everything because we now can and we live in an era when it has become natural for us to question everything.

So I raise the topic of Yvonne Fletcher so that everything that has remained unsaid all these years can be recorded. We do not have to contend with years of conspiracy theory and amatuer videos and cgi and only the minimum of false witnesses because there were not the means available them for spreading the false word and so the number of false witnesses are minimal. Indeed the scene outside the embassy was only limited to those there or who can be assumed to be there.

One of the main claims on these ocassions is that it was staged. Not that the ending was staged but the beginning was staged. We open with a scene inside the coach.

So, to start the ball rolling let's go back to the time when there was only the TV and the press between the people and our rulers:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSDl-6jn0Xk

Is that the firing of a machine gun we hear or is that the one shot only that the two film crew managed to capture?

11/12 others were alleged to have been shot but survived when Yvonne was unlucky to catch the only fatal shot.

Was she shot from the front or from behind?

Was there a long time between her falling to the ground and helpers coming to her aid? In view of the Despatches documentary high-lighting a a smuggled silenced PPK [were vailable handguns and silencers scarce in Britain on those days?]. But anyway, Despatches spend a lot of time tracing a silence hand gun and telling us about it which flies in the face of the mainstream account and thus is open to debunking but is it. Is it a case of the greater the lie the greater is the possibility it is believed. Or is it a case of anything to muddy the waters?

This is yet another case when it happened in broad daylight and we should be able to see right though it. With time it has gone back into the dark distant past. This cold case should be opened.

[Figaro]

Don't shoot the messenger:
http://vialls.homestead.com/yvonnefletcher.html

[IronClad]

Never do, never will. Folk do though and give their agenda away and also their stupidity. Some even fancy themselves as cointelpro, suffering with delusions

A fine report and it covers the main points and joins the dots therefore it must be closer to the truth. Is Joe resting in peace? I think not.

I'am particularly pleased with the confirmation that whoever placed her in the lineup was in on it. Did he sleep at night after that? I expect he did. Wonder what his "innocent" reasons were for doing that?

Of course, the protesters wearing face masks would be taken into custody now. Anyway, a direct confrontation would not get permission now either.

Thanks for the link. All the media stories can be measured against this report and found wanting credibility.

[newspeak]

Nicely put Ironclad here's that Dispatches docu you mentioned,the full 1 hour 20 minutes :

Yvonne Fletcher: Murder In St. James' Documentary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l1J11WNQAs

Shot from behind from a higher building than the embassy, and killed with a bullet near the end of it's range,and from relatively close distance it seems.

Elsewhere,not many want to look into the Lockerbie bombing either.

[IronClad]

The autopsy report showing the trajectory of the bullet would have answered everything but the blundering that went on about the angles has made any conclusion based on these two angles worthless. Both can be hiding the truth. Reason being that the angles were not the determining clue. The direction had to be taken into account. Left to right or right to left. So, talking angles gives the height but the direction concludes it. They talking DIRECTION? No?

What they are leading us to is the shot was from a building. An automatic weapon. Sorry, but the sound track does not reflect that. One of the news reports speaks of a shot to the chest and reports mention a silencer.

Always wondered why the crowd of protesters bundled into a pile as though they were trying to subdue one of their number. And why a police officer leaps over the crowd control barriers on to the pavement.
There is also a protester on the ground with a bleeding hand.

The autopsy would have explained everything with the trajectory, the direction and entry and exit wounds. There was no clean finding based on a clean autopsy report and so the official story and even Vialls report cannot be accepted as the truth.

It was said to be a "routine assignment" for Yvonne Fletcher. Terrorism then was more of a serious issue then than it is now. Masked protesters. And embassy staff was allowed to come out of the embassy. She was put in between two opposing sides and not only was she the only woman she was lucky to have been accepted into the police force and put out in the field. A routine assignment, indeed.

Is there any report at all stating the direction and entry and exit wounds.

Single angles don't mean a thing but they want us to think one single angle is the answer to everything.

[newspeak]

Apologies, I hadn't read Vialls report.

So given the ballistics tests with the spread of this information, what is the position now as far as re-opening the inquest (if possible), or any other legal means to address the above do you know?

[IronClad]

None at all. It was used as a cosmetic by the British government with the new Libyian regime raising hope with the remaining perpetrator still being alive but will get lost in the bureaucracy and might get resurrected from time to time if/when it suits. The Yvonne Fletcher story is written in stone never to be chipped away. A pawn in just one game of so many long forgotten.

Strange that you should ask.

[newspeak]

[IronClad]

Yes, we can all become amateur forensic scientists after so many series of CSI. We don't need the programs depicting real forensic scientists.

As the CSI's show us is that forensic science of the victim can lead to the how, when and thence to the perperator.

The JFK autopsy reports were so muddled it needed someone to look for something that was never there because there was so much that was.
What was never there was a forensic scientist who caregorically described an existing entry would [or was it an exit wound]. It was as if it was not a bullet wound at all.

Jack Ruby's bullet wasn't a through-and-through and no one else was injured and it was at short range.

Yvonne Fletcher had no other way to tell us the how and to lead us to the perpetrator other than the bullet wound and its entry and exist direction and the actual direction through her body and if it was one or more bullets. One bullet and it would not likely have been an automatic weapon. And also the bullet itself might have linked it to a particular weapon.

And yet they destroyed the credibility of the one and only method which would have provided evidence to lead to the killer. A desparate attempt to cover it up when it should have born out the official story. Why destroy the credibility of the autopsy if it showed the bullet came from the Libyan embassy. It obviously didn't. Was it a through-and-through or a silenced hand gun.

We'll never know.

We should all be amateur forensic scientists by now.

[newspeak]

On the plus side there have been 379 views to this thread you created, so it's possible one of those may have a relative or friend in the field of those real forensic sciences..

[IronClad]

A comforting thought.
The ripple effect.
A ripple in an ocean of interested parties. Some with more interest than others.
Work colleagues who promised her whilst she was dying that they would get her killer and have still to make good on that promise.

The official who put her out in the field and the officials that allowed the embassy staff out on the street to complete the scenario in which a shooting took place.

The one who captured the scene inside the bus full of masked protesters.

Those from the intelligence field who were there collecting intelligence of those masked protesters and those who showed up from out of the embassy. Those who did not take her out the field when that scenario was created. When the tinder box was lit.

[newspeak]

I guess it's easy to be disheartened by the scale of things running against the flow of truth.On the other hand we are the many possessing empathy,below the tiny apex of the corrupt pyramid.