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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Village Voice propaganda piece...
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Has Occupy Wall Street Finally Achieved "Joke" Status?
By James King Thu., May 3 2012 at 8:48 AM
Occupy Wall Street's May Day antics were billed as the resurgence of the Occupy movement. Unfortunately for the occupiers, May Day was widely considered to be a "dud," and has many in the media arguing that the movement has become nothing more than a joke -- just a bunch of "bums" running around New York City complaining about one thing or another.
With yesterday's headline of "OWS Bums Are A Big Joke: Hard workers enjoy a good laugh as May Day skirmishes fizzle," the New York Post is
From the Post:
Occupy Wall Street's call for May Day mayhem largely fizzled yesterday -- but at least provided a good laugh for hardworking people gazing from their office windows at the demonstrators' antics as cops took a few dozen into custody.
"How can anyone take them seriously? They look like homeless people," quipped Financial District bartender Kimberly Leo.
"I saw one woman complaining about not having a job, but she had a shirt with the word "nympho" on it," Leo, 26, said. "These people need a change of wardrobe and a shower."
Reuters, the Daily News, the Associated Press and several other media outlets made similar (although, slightly more subtle) arguments.
We witnessed several of Tuesday's May Day festivities. While not everyone involved in the demonstrations were "bums" (which we pointed out in a post yesterday), the media's take doesn't seem to be too far off -- it's hard to take many of these people seriously when they're biting cops, dumping buckets of feces in public places, and strolling around New York in Halloween costumes.
As Susan Ostrowski, a 55-year-old woman who works at a Wall Street insurance company, suggests, it seems some of the occupiers would be better served by "find[ing] jobs and protest[ing] on their time off. They should get involved politically, register to vote rather than sitting and sleeping on the steps in sleeping bags."
As we mentioned yesterday, not all of the occupiers are unemployed hobos. Unfortunately, the non-unemployed hobos involved with Occupy Wall Street get lumped in with the "bums" because the "bums" and their antics get the most ink in the press.
We want to know what you think: has Occupy Wall Street Achieved "joke" status?
Cast your vote below.
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Matt Graber 1 day ago
I think it's worth questioning the premise in the headline which suggests that OWS hadn't already reached joke status, before it's reappearance on Tuesday. Back when Zuccotti Park was their home, I took a walk over there to see what it was all about. What I saw were these same types of people (dirty, sketchy, unemployable) that have of course taken precedence to the more clean cut protesters in terms of media ink. My impression was that these gutter punks had flocked from all over the country to join the fun, probably ruining everything for the people that SHOULD be the faces of the movement (the hardworking but underemployed).
But how can this be avoided? It's no different from the Tea Party being perceived by us enlightened liberal New Yorkers as a bunch of backward bigots, because of a few colorful characters. Am I out of line in drawing the comparison? Not between the movements so much as the media portrayal of the movements, and the undesirables that we tend to focus our sights on.
James King 1 day ago in reply to Matt Graber
Good point, Matt. I totally agree. Not all of these occupiers are unemployed drug addicts the same way not all the Tea Partiers are racist hillbillies. The problem is it's the drug addicts and the hillbillies who get all the ink -- giving the movements as a whole a bad name.
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Matt Graber 22 hours ago in reply to James King
Right, and for obvious reasons having to do with media and it's love of the profane and the base. Importantly, I feel like it's up to the people within the movement to temper this type of thing (people biting cops, sending envelopes with mysterious powder, and other idiotic acts.) It's up to them to maintain some kind of discipline within their rank and file. In my neighborhood, Red Hook, one badly worded email by an affiliate of the local Occupy group resulted in the cancellation last week of what could have been a productive meeting between local cops and the community. The email, which was not approved by a majority of the group, invited outside organizations to come to the meeting to protest stop and frisk policy, which led the police to cancel. It's just a small example of how one person's bad idea or ill-advised action can spoil things for everyone else. It's unfortunate.
DanShockley 6 minutes ago in reply to Matt Graber
So, because U.S. media and lazy, ill-informed couch potatoes focus on the sensational and non-representative actions, any group of activists has to maintain extremely rigid control over everyone even loosely affiliated?
Oh, I get it. You basically are dooming us to the status quo, either intentionally or out of ignorance. "If the people who want to make things better aren't absolutely perfect, I can go back to sleep, instead of feeling obligated to take action myself."
M Decci 22 hours ago in reply to Matt Graber
The 2 groups are non-comparable even if both had protesters. The TP percieved as hillbillies bigots was debunked by the bastion of "entlightment" newspaper, the NYT no less when they published the demographic profile of the Partiers. Most educated, middle to high incomers, more in tune with the typical suburban american than the OWS or even the minority "enlightened" nothern liberal.
Am not a TP, their positions on fiscals are too radical even for a Fiscal Conservative like me; but it doesnt blind me from admitting their effectiveness as a political force. In difference to the OWS, the TPs knew EXACTLY what they wanted; how to organize to achieve their goals, and those goals were not only achievable but backed up by the law. When they said "we want less taxes" or "we oppose obamacare" you know exactly what that means whether you agree or not with those positions. They are firm, explicit, objective and solid. They are achievable by replacing the individuals in government that support those policies by others who dont and it is lawful thing to do.
But these OWS are just plain old subjective rethoric based on their own anguishes and not based on logic, or laws, or realities. You simply cant say "I want a 'fairer' world'...because that is subjective - fairness according to whom? - or blame 'Wall Street' because you bought a house you couldnt affor to pay...or blame the Koches while celebraring the Hollywood stars with your Ipad in hand...; saying that 1% has lots of money doesnt justify by the law, to simply go and take it, etc.
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Al Swearengen 22 hours ago in reply to M Decci
Fairness is millionaires paying the same fucking tax rates as the rest of us. Is that so hard to understand, genius?
Stop being a willfully ignorant idiot.
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NewsDog 20 hours ago in reply to Al Swearengen
Fairness is available. Get a good CPA.
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RLXPRESS 1 day ago
The joke is on US! the powers that be will have you laugh at the gutter punks out there getting slapped around by the boys in blue. While the economic & social slope continues to get slipperier.
Yes, a few of these kids are to social outcasts, but the problems are the same, and the people laughing are the ones who are going to feel it in the end...with no vaseline I might add. #Sad&True
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"We never ceased to exist. It is not that we have returned, we never left."
---a 25-year-old nursing intern protester.
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Quarter Of A Million 'Indignados' Hit Spain's Streets
In a massive show of strength, around 250,000 Spanish Occupy protesters
have staged marches and rallies in Madrid, Barcelona and 80 other cities
and towns across Spain.
In Madrid's Puerta del Sol at midnight, protesters raised their arms to the
sky and held a minute of silence before chanting; "Yes we can, yes we can."
The marches launched a four-day protest that will end on May 15,
the anniversary of the 15-M movement's birth.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:05 pm Post subject: Power generation... |
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The situation is hardly dangerous here (except for the agent provocateurs...) but the students are showing guts and determination.
Jean Charest (our province's PM) is totally out of touch with reality.
The next gen of our society will come from this lot.
And we (the flower power gen) thought that we had made our mark...
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OK, ... here I see multitudes of people herded into small places
where they are targets for experimental chemical exposure, bioweapon exposure, new sonic weapón exposure, etc.
Herded there by internet sites like this, where ppl pogramed by internet info assemble. Of course the internet is run by the NSA and media giants, and began as a secret military operation, IBM a Nazi corp. tagged inmates.
When people assemble on sites or in person in public I dont think they have any idea what they are doing.
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One Year On....
Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, interviews David DeGraw
about the birth and evolution of Occupy Wall Street......
Hmmmmm... 
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Ive just read this article saying he wanted Israel eliminated.
Here we go again,and its been taken completely out of context.
He should be able to say what he likes,but why include a word in his speech that is bound to be taken the wrong way and used against him ?.
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I just don't fucking get it . |
Of course you do skinters. We all do in more ways than we care to admit.
The world is a stage, with these actors portraying their scenes.
Ahmadinejad is merely playing his part, "to the hilt" to quote another world actor; Jacques DeMolay!
Certainly more to follow...
Barack Hussein Obama aka Barry Sotero Davis to warn Iran in UN general assembly speech
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/25/barack-obama-warn-iran-nuclear-weapons
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