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Optimist777
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:50 pm Post subject: 


Raphael wrote:  Quote found on my own site ...
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/37solfeggiozoroastersoraclesseedoflife/
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McClain Yantra for 432,000.
Only this yantra can yield a hexagonal region where tones and their reciprocals coincide.
The hexagon has 37 tones because 37 is a hexagonal number, viz chapter 10 and the cube of Metatron.
[from p 90 of Meditations on the Koran by Earnest McClain, NicolasHays, Ney York, 1981] 

The 37 Nats (spirits) of Burma: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_%28spirit%29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfZFBcnh7dM
Could Plato's 37 Guardians of Magnesia match up with the 37 Nats
Quote:  The ratios between Plato's 37 guardians of Magnesia and the reference D = 5040, taken in order, define a sequence of right triangles in which acute angles vary successively by an average of 1°. The 37 elements within the hexagonal matrix of the marriage allegory (cf. fig. 4d) perform a similar function. These correlations continue well into the second octave. We thus possess two different sets of Platonic right triangles whose smaller acute angles vary from 1° to 45°, constructed from the ratios of successive tones.
I assume that these sets of triangles reveal the tonal foundations of Pythagorean trigonometry, and that they probably motivate, in both the Republic and Laws, the development of arithmetical material well beyond the practical needs of musicians. Let me first present the data and then explain how it was discovered before speculating on what it means.
http://www.ernestmcclain.net/Plato_OPTIMIZED.pdf 
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Raphael
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 1337 Location: SpaceTimeVibration

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:11 am Post subject: 


Optimist777 wrote:  Raphael wrote:  Quote found on my own site ...
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/37solfeggiozoroastersoraclesseedoflife/
Quote: 
McClain Yantra for 432,000.
Only this yantra can yield a hexagonal region where tones and their reciprocals coincide.
The hexagon has 37 tones because 37 is a hexagonal number, viz chapter 10 and the cube of Metatron.
[from p 90 of Meditations on the Koran by Earnest McClain, NicolasHays, Ney York, 1981] 

The 37 Nats (spirits) of Burma: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_%28spirit%29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfZFBcnh7dM
Could Plato's 37 Guardians of Magnesia match up with the 37 Nats
Quote:  The ratios between Plato's 37 guardians of Magnesia and the reference D = 5040, taken in order, define a sequence of right triangles in which acute angles vary successively by an average of 1°. The 37 elements within the hexagonal matrix of the marriage allegory (cf. fig. 4d) perform a similar function. These correlations continue well into the second octave. We thus possess two different sets of Platonic right triangles whose smaller acute angles vary from 1° to 45°, constructed from the ratios of successive tones.
I assume that these sets of triangles reveal the tonal foundations of Pythagorean trigonometry, and that they probably motivate, in both the Republic and Laws, the development of arithmetical material well beyond the practical needs of musicians. Let me first present the data and then explain how it was discovered before speculating on what it means.
http://www.ernestmcclain.net/Plato_OPTIMIZED.pdf 

all great connections
without a doubt
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Raphael
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 1337 Location: SpaceTimeVibration

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:41 am Post subject: 


found on page 99
http://www.ernestmcclain.net/Plato_OPTIMIZED.pdf
Quote:  About the serious intent of Laws there can be no doubt.
At the very beginning of the dialogue Plato declares that the best legislator or judge is the one who can take a “quarreling family in hand and reconcile its members, without killing any of them” (627). This allusion to his unfinished story of warfare between Ancient Athens (Pythagorean tuning) and Atlantis (Just tuning) 
>>> it seems we are still caught up in the tuning, even today we have 432 hertz vs. 440 hurts?
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Optimist777
Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 262

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject: 


Raphael wrote:  found on page 99
http://www.ernestmcclain.net/Plato_OPTIMIZED.pdf
Quote:  About the serious intent of Laws there can be no doubt.
At the very beginning of the dialogue Plato declares that the best legislator or judge is the one who can take a “quarreling family in hand and reconcile its members, without killing any of them” (627). This allusion to his unfinished story of warfare between Ancient Athens (Pythagorean tuning) and Atlantis (Just tuning) 
>>> it seems we are still caught up in the tuning, even today we have 432 hertz vs. 440 hurts?
namaste 
There is the myth of 432,000 fighters who sallied from Valhalla to do battle with the ‘Wolf’.
Could it be archetypal of the Wolf 5th Interval?
Quote:  It has been shown that the exterior measurements of the 'Great' Pyramid of Giza are an accurate representation of the Earth's’ northern hemisphere on a scale of 1:43,200.
A number that proves highly significant when one considers the method of doubling/halving the numbers that was used in ancient Egypt (kemi)
25,920 years / 12 = 2,160 (x 2 = 4,320)
The Platonic Year of 25,920 yrs would produce the following numbers:
25.92 (doubled) = 51.84 where, 51.84° is 51° 50' 24"
In other words, the angle of inclination 51° 50' 24" would express the decimal number 51.84°, which is the fractal expression of double the 25,920 Platonic Year number (25920 x 2 = 51840).
This would mean that the angle of inclination cited by Piazzi Smyth for the Great pyramid of Ghiza of 51° 51' 14" would reflect the decimal number 51.85399° or the fractal halved to that of 25,926.995 years (51,85399/2=25,926.995). A number which appears at very least, an extraordinary coincidence considering the astronomical references to the pyramid throughout history.
http://www.ancientwisdom.co.uk/precession.htm 
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Raphael
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 1337 Location: SpaceTimeVibration

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:18 pm Post subject: 


Optimist777 wrote: 
There is the myth of 432,000 fighters who sallied from Valhalla to do battle with the ‘Wolf’.
Could it be archetypal of the Wolf 5th Interval?

do me a favor read this and tell me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_interval]
thanks.
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Optimist777
Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 262

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:32 pm Post subject: 


Raphael wrote:  Optimist777 wrote: 
There is the myth of 432,000 fighters who sallied from Valhalla to do battle with the ‘Wolf’.
Could it be archetypal of the Wolf 5th Interval?

do me a favor read this and tell me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_interval
thanks.
namaste 
I have a strong feeling you know already.
I also agree that the code 11258 should have a 3 between the 2 & the 5.
The ratio from the Fibonacci sequence 5/3 = 1.666, which celestial cycle might this be referring to and what would be the purpose of hiding it?
God designed the spiral of 5th's to go on forever, our current musical scale does not adhere to it, so it is basically snuffing out natures harmony in music by pushing the dissonant wolf interval. So if the wolf interval gains it's 3, the wolf flow's properly according to Phi?
The Pythagorean Comma (1.0136:1) seems to fit well.
One octave of Comma's will set up the perfect spiral of 5th's, and it won't stop for nothing.
Should we ask F# LOW?
http://holyspiritvictorious4ever.blogspot.com/2009/02/pythagorascommaxphilinksmosesto.html
23.46 cents ? The number 23 reminds me of Jim Carey and that DOG that wouldn't leave him alone. Ever see the movie?
http://aumstar.com/
23.5 cents, or 1/4 of a semitone, is known as the Pythagorean comma.
Djed Pillar
Gary Obsorn has a lot to say about 23.5 as well. _________________ TRIA SUNT MIRABILIA DEUS ET HOMO MATER ET VIRGO TRINUS ET UNUS 

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Optimist777
Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 262

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 3:07 pm Post subject: 


The connection of the 37 Guardians of Magnesia to the 37 Nats intrigues me as well, not to mention it also aligns with David's 37 Mighty Warriors from the Books of SamuEL. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David%27s_Mighty_Warriors
Now Plato derived his 37 guardians from 18 (from the parent city) + 19 (new arrivals).
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01411897808574495?journalCode=gmur19#preview
The note D is the dead center of the 37 tonal matrix which aligns with the chromatic ratio's of 720:360 and 5040:2520 to the octave. Each of Magnesia's 12 tribes selects 60 guardsmen for a 720 man force on duty at all times. The 3 generals or 3 expounders of the law correlate with the tones G, A, D.
There is perfect inverse symmetry around tone D, in which Dorian mode is the only symmetrical mode out of the 7.
The tone D also produces the irreducible integer 45.
Now what would happen if we tune D to 432 Lui DiMartino will surely vouch for that note.
See figure 33 on page 102 for the order's of the ratio's and integers, the numbers are worth the look. Do you see a pattern around the irreducible integers?
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Optimist777
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:34 pm Post subject: 


I am getting a nagging suspicion that the note D 7=5040 has a very large role to play in the 37 tone mandala's functional operation. Even though I'm a newcomer to the music world, Ernest still does give a good presentation of his work to those that know little on the subject. He assigned D as the center of symmetry as the largest integer, and the other 12 tones always surround in the same pattern. Then he goes on to explain that there can be only 11 perfect symmetries in either spiral of 5ths or just tuning, but there is always an optional tritone to function as the asymmetric 12th, with an error of a comma (23.5 cents) or less.
Here's some of his work that might lead us to see the bigger picture within music, and how the ancients knew the correct time cycles simply by understanding the true nature of the musical octave, were it came from and were it's going. They even matched it all up with the cycles of the planets/stars and possibly astrology. Music is astronomical indeed, this is why the church has always been infatuated with both subjects in depth. It's actually one of the reasons why the full spectrum of harmonics has never been fully revealed, another being it's wave like property that moves and vibrates the aether. They do not want us to know just how perfectly set up our reality really is, were there are balanced opposites there will always be unity !!
Quote:  There are only eleven tonal cuts in the tonemandala defined by the rising and falling scales of the octave double 30 : 60. (McClain, p. 13)
"The smallest integers which can define a diatonic scale with two similar tetrachords – a fundamental concept in both Hindu and Greek tunings – occupy a "space" of thirty units in the "octave double" 30 : 60.
The numbers 30, 32, 36, 40, 45, 48, 50, 54, and 60 exhaust the tonal implications of integers 2P3q5r" 60." (McClain. p. 12) 
note GAD as a peace symbol
Quote:  Within the severely confining triangles of the superimposed MAGEN DAVID, there now lie ONLY 3 kings named by me GDA who "frame tetrachords" of 3:4 (Yin) within fifths of 2:3 (Yang). The four "little wings" ABOVE or BELOW provide 7tone modes either for the Greek Dorian "true Hellenic mode" in one direction (as eb bb f c) or its reciprocal (modern Major mode) in the opposite direction as (as e b f# c#).
http://www.matrixofcreation.co.uk/ancientmusicology/item/21myholymountains 
Quote:  The tone D in a rising scale (D in a falling scale), in an octave defined by the octave double 30 : 60
is derived from 22 .31 .51 = 60 (McCalin, p. 13) 
http://cojs.org/cojswiki/Square_Root_of_Two_Cuneiform,_c._1700_BCE
Quote:  From what we know at the present time it seems likely that the octave invariance was recognized in India, Sumer, Babylon, Egypt, and Palestine well before the variant cycles of sun, moon, and planets were coordinated with even modest accuracy. Calendrical periods of 30, 60, 360, and 720 units and their multiples belong to the essential arithmetic of a systematic mathematical harmonics. Their source was not astronomy though they found a ready application in early astronomy, which knew them to be unsuitable for its own cycles."
In other words, the observations of the fundamental environmental cycles that regulated mans life, the daily cycle of light and dark, the monthly lunar cycle of approximately 30 days, and the yearly seasonal cycle found a ready harmonious correspondence with the "musical arithmetic" that was developed by ancient man.
It is not presumptuous to assume that these early observations of these cycles were a contributing factor to the beginnings of mathematics. For as Plato observed: "The sight of day and night, of months and the revolving years, of equinox and solstice, has caused the invention of number whence we have derived all philosophy".
McClain, Ernest, The Pythagorean Plato, NicolasHays, Inc., 1978 
Also note how the irreducible integers in the major tonal mountain are male numbers, and the integers in the minor tonal mountain are female. Complementary opposites _________________ TRIA SUNT MIRABILIA DEUS ET HOMO MATER ET VIRGO TRINUS ET UNUS 

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Optimist777
Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 262

Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:14 pm Post subject: 


The 5/3 fibanocci ratio is the most crucial to the sequence, but somehow left out by the tarot creators. Do they not want us to know were the alter is? Do they not want us to know what were really here to alter?
Quote:  ANCIENT ISRAEL’S HOLY ARK OF THE COVENANT AND BRAZEN ALTAR
Intriguing also is the presence of this precise ratio in the Tabernacle of Israel. If it was only there once, it would be more reasonable to attribute its presence to chance, and we are reminded of the exhortation to Moses to ensure he adhered exactly to the heavenly pattern (cited below). This “signature literally written all across the face of the cosmos” appears in two critically important structures which have different dimensions, in the most important artifacts known to ancient Judaism: the Holy Ark of the Covenant, and the Brazen Altar where all Israel’s sacrificial offerings were brought.
2.5/1.5 = 1.6666667 (=5/3)
Exodus 25:10: ”And they shall construct an ark of acacia wood two and a half cubits long, and one and a half cubits wide, and one and a half cubits high.”
5/3 = 1.6666667
Exodus 27:1: “And you shall make the altar of acacia wood, five cubits long and five cubits wide; the altar shall be square, and its height shall be three cubits”
Exodus 25:40: “And see that you make them after the pattern for them, which was shown to you on the mountain.”
http://katachriston.wordpress.com/2010/12/27/fibonaccifractalsandinorganicteleology/ 
It has struck me that the writer's of the bible had intimate knowledge of the importance of the square root in nature, namely 2, 3, and 5.
I like what Richard Merrick has to say about this.
Raphael, are you familiar with harmonic damping? I believe it plays a major role in the oscillations of the standing wave, as harmonics is what allows the wave to stand in the first place, it's what brought it to be. God spoke and it was so.
Maybe the Moon and Mr. Fibonacci can help us interpret the peaks and valley's?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_oscillator
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damping
Quote:  "The Fibonacci series, converging to the golden ratio phi, act as a natural damping proportion within the harmonic interference pattern of an octave to prevent fractional wave partials from forming while enabling standing wave harmonics to resonate. Maximum resonance and damping locations within the harmonic series or octave may be estimated to four decimal places using these equations:
Maximum Resonance Ratio = phi + (7/12 exp.2) = 1.6666 approx. major 6th = 5:3 ratio
Maximum Damping Ratio = (5/3)  (7/12 exp,2) = 1.518 or approx. phi ratio
"Interestingly, when 137.03599907098 is divided by the Rosslyn magic ratio 0.012345679, it is equal to 11,100 within a 0.0007% variance. From the perspective of harmonic science, the finestructure constant appears to be a unity property of cubic space resonance."
http://interferencetheory.com/Articles/files/60a02886dd8195a6937d6fc2acf233a616.html 
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Optimist777
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:57 pm Post subject: 


Real harmonics seem to be based on complementary opposites or asymmetric infinite resonance. This is the perfect helix of fifths.
Square Root of Two  1.414........
http://www.interferencetheory.com/Excerpts/page13/page22/files/page22_1.png
The perfect fifth (YANG) is the 2:3 ratio + the Comma of Pythagoras (23.5).
The major second in music is 9:8 cubed which equals the perfect spiral of fifth's.
Quote:  Drew Hempel: Archytas' use of "just tuning" diatonic ratios, also used by Gurdjieff, such as 9:8, 3:5, and 5:4 were solely due to Archtyas' conversion of 2:3:4 as complimentary opposites into the "divide and average" symmetry or the arithmetic mean. So 2:3 became 3:2 from A + C divided by 2 = B with A = 1 and C = 2 as the octave. This conversion of the complimentary opposite Tetrad perfect fifth of 2:3 into 3:2, as an arithmetic mean, then could be doubled, 9/4, and inverted back into the octave as 9/8, the major second interval and then converted to the geometric mean as three major second intervals or the square root of two also known as the "Devil's Interval," the tritone  C to F#. C= 515, F#= 373 
Palms mirror Lamps = 5 Wise mirror 5 Foolish
Hurt not thy oil, Tesla surely knew.
The product is two six's on both side's of the one, just like the twelve apostles and jeSuS in the middle.
Carbon 7 from 12
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Optimist777
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:48 am Post subject: 


I forgot that Mo had a say on the notes GAD, here's the image he made with Merricks tone chart. Again, the two pillars with note D in center symmetry.
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Raphael
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 1337 Location: SpaceTimeVibration

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:36 am Post subject: 


Optimist777 wrote:  Raphael wrote:  The day of Jesus' birth is July 3rd or '73' according to a Vatican spokesperson.
Would March 7th or 37 also have qualified?
go to 4:30 of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcNdteJNyO4&feature=related
art and life taking cues and clues from each other ALL the time...
was it a Freudian slip up by the Father?
IMHO it was...
EL, LE, 73 and 37 are reflections and rotations of each other.
namaste 
That would mean July 34th is the point of time were the energy is at it's highest each year, and a baby born adopts those energies at birth. I can see your theory as highly plausible Raph.
The masons also flaunt cancer at the top of the Royal Arch of St. Louis, location, location, location.
37 reflecting 73, Cancer reflecting Capricorn, July reflecting 
Jan. 6th is the birth of Christ in the Eastern Orthodox.
Capricorn #10 on the zodiac wheel is also one of four signs (1, 4, 7, 10) closest to the center or SS Sweet Spot.
The above simple model clearly illustrates that the Age of Aquarius is NOT the age of awakening....Capricorn holds MORE promise of connecting with/getting close to the SS, the Sweet Spot, the Source?
the last 2000 years (pisces #12) were mostly LIGHT Worker Wankers having their say called heresy
the next 2000 years (aquarius #11) we must add sound SOUND Workers to the formula
then the age of Capricorn #10 is when we finally put it all together....in order to make the big AHA happen!
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