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IronClad
Joined: 10 Aug 2011 Posts: 435 Location: Kent
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:41 am Post subject: 10th Anniversary of 9/11 |
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Each anniversary has been appropriately recognised but the most significant one is not far away. In 10 years there still hasn't been an acceptance of whether two 767's hit the towers and literally disappeared inside them. This has got to be more a case it suits one side more than the other because if it was 767's then surely there would not be so much evidence, or lack of evidence available to indicate neither were 767's. This plane is not particularly small or silent or robust.
It appears that there is something in the pipeline to be released for this special ocassion:-
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/11/september-11th-anniversary-richard-clarke-s-explosive-cia-cover-up-charge.html
but when one considers the offices this guy held in his posts in two previous US governments in public service whether he is doing the public a service, or at least the public who are 9/11 researcher sceptics.
He admits to being in the loop but for two hijackers associated with the plane that hit the Pentagon being in the US and this was kept from him by the CIA or at least it is alleged. Well, unless these two were cyber terrorists and did it all with a laptop [Lone Gunmen style] then two out of 19 doesn't make much of a difference. He says he knew everything else. How odd is this. If one piece of intel was kept back why not more. Why be sure everything was known when you don't know what is everything.
But the big anniversary is fast approaching and it can't be allowed to pass without an appropriate public response [for public read 9/11 Internet community] because psychologically interest will tail off after this anniversary and it will gradually become a cold case. The 11th anniversary will have its significance but we will need another launch to get it up and running. Are you preparing a statement for the big day? |
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leon
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1046 Location: 3d-rate nation
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Fox TV To Air "Secrets of 9/11" On Saturday, September 10
The main emphasis is on Saudi material support for 911 patsies – “the 19 hijackers”.
Here is a good example as the patsy story is used against whoever the perpetrators wish to use it against, never mind that “19 hijackers” has no more relation to events on 911 than the cows on my farm.
Suadis are definitly slated for the next round of destabilisation in the Middle East. |
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IronClad
Joined: 10 Aug 2011 Posts: 435 Location: Kent
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Saudi ID's were used to taint the Saudi/US relationship and to tarnish the name of the major oil supplier to the US probably to encourage the US to look elsewhere for a supplier, like Iraq. Of course, the idea that their ID's would be traced to anywhere was a major slip up and to be traced so easily back from 15 of them is a story in itself. It can be traced back to the US representative who was forced into granting visas is another trail easily come by. Stuff that falls into your lap has got to be suspect. |
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leon
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1046 Location: 3d-rate nation
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Guns and Butter :
"The 46 Exercises and Drills of 9/11" with Webster Griffin Tarpley. Military exercises and drills in the decade before September 11th, and on the day of; drills that then go live; MIHOP v. LIHOP; the goal of 9/11; the stand down order; lack of air defense; the Pentagon; Angel Is Next; Amalgam Virgo; Able Danger; Able Warrior; P2OG; Vigilant Guardian; Global Guardian; Amalgam Warrior; Doomsday Aircraft equipped with the Looking Glass Communication System, etc.
http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/73129
Nice angle (not 45 degree thow) by Webster. The plain truth: whole world (except for American sheeple) knows that 911 was a imperialistick false flag.
Scary conclusions by Webster that the Syndicate was ready to go to full-blown thermo-nuclear conflict with Russia on the day of 911.
Now Russians have new "Dolgorukiy" missile submarines with "Bulava" and "Topol" ballistic missiles and I believe their primary deterrent target would be London, NOT Washington. |
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RedMahna

Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 1407 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Now Russians have new "Dolgorukiy" missile submarines with "Bulava" and "Topol" ballistic missiles and I believe their primary deterrent target would be London, NOT Washington. |
not exactly a comforting thought considering there are innocent ppl there too. but i can understand... (like Chris Rock said about OJ Simpson).
and what's this new distraction about not inviting first responders to the 10th Anniversary "party?" everyone is talking about it online, so i can't help thinking it's a distraction...
red _________________ just cos things are fucked up doesn't mean it isn't progress... |
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hawkwind

Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 686
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leon
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1046 Location: 3d-rate nation
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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"not exactly a comforting thought considering there are innocent ppl there too. but i can understand... (like Chris Rock said about OJ Simpson). "
Red, how many innocent people are dying every hour of every day around the world thanks to colonial liberal policy propagated by Anglo American Empire?
Than again, they are mostly brown or black or yellow insignificant people far away from Nicevilles we live in. |
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IronClad
Joined: 10 Aug 2011 Posts: 435 Location: Kent
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Webster has surpassed himself with this one. He was kind to 9/11 researchers and shows that he is following the latest developments and brings us down to earth with a slight bump. Nothing like jumping a few levels. We are on a higher level now thanks to him.
We knew from day one a 757 did not hit the Pentagon. Whether it was self denial and an inner hope that it was something acceptable. Something within our grasp. Something we could live with. Even the no planers argued plane but no plane. They tried to remain in the framework of what was acceptable.
A 757 could not have hit that low down on the wall, even if it was on its landing gear on the ground the hole had to be higher up the wall. It wasn't the size of the hole but the height of it, up from the ground.
We knew that from day one. We didn't need aviation experts to tell us.
British intelligence [what we are born with and improve on as we get older] - we just got to rely on it more. |
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leon
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1046 Location: 3d-rate nation
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| In two world wars started by British Russia lost over 40 million people. Than again, who gives a fuck? They are just Russians, right? |
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RedMahna

Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 1407 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Than again, they are mostly brown or black or yellow insignificant people far away from Nicevilles we live in. |
that's why i added the Chris Rock quote... "i can understand." in other words, it might suck ass, but the rationale is there. and furthermore, one day if i hear the eerie sound of whistles descending from the sky, i will bend over and kiss my ass goodbye (should i have the time) knowing we deserved it...
people do have the power. we just don't come together very well. it really doesn't take much for PR people to twist our arms in any direction at all. and even crises after crises, what do we do? we forget... rinse & repeat.
my feelings don't get hurt much. whatever people do to piss me off, i am still willing to be helpful if it saves a life or moves us forward to a better understanding of something... arguments, name-calling, cursing, and all. i know these are just words.
but the divisions that have been made in western "civilized" countries seem as though they can never be re-joined. and so, united we stand, divided we fall.
btw, the morning of 9/11/01 i was just getting to bed (having returned from, of all places, NYC) and had the TV on... local NY station, using public airwaves, not cable. minutes directly after the interference on the screen (first plane hit), the newsroom broke in to say "A SMALL PLANE HAS HIT THE WTC... WE WILL BRING YOU AN UPDATE AS WE GET INFORMATION." there was a picture-in-picture of the tower with a small hole and some smoke coming from it. No one at the station sounded the least bit excited as the two reporters sat looking at the camera from their newsroom making this very statement... and then they cut back to the regular program.
red _________________ just cos things are fucked up doesn't mean it isn't progress... |
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IronClad
Joined: 10 Aug 2011 Posts: 435 Location: Kent
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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What could it have been to have got them to report it was a SMALL plane?
Was it because it WAS small or they didn't want to cause a panic?
The fact that millions saw BIG smoke and LITTLE fire didn't mean much. It was never thought to be a case of Towering Inferno and yet the towers were brought down by fire. Our intelligence failed us on 9/11? No. Our own intelligence.
We have to be more intelligent in the future. |
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RedMahna

Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 1407 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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the thing is (and i am speaking for myself) that only when the 2nd plane hit - and my reception went out completely - did i begin wondering what happened... so i went next door where they had cable. by then we, meaning neighbors, viewers, TV reporters on the air, etc, started getting nervous about what had happened and began questioning whether this was merely accident (2 planes in a row??) or sabotage, which of course we now commonly call terrorism.
i had then gone out by car down to the kill separating NJ from Staten Island, and tons of people were watching the the burning twin towers. still, we were clueless as to what really happened, or we'd be running for cover.
getting back to the neighbor's house, we watched the towers come down on TV. it seemed like some time had passed... i wasn't looking at my watch. who the hell was thinking the buildings were going to collapse?
all i'm saying is no big deal was made until plane #2. and so why were people being told to stay inside the wtc after the first plane hit? in other words, i'm thinking additional planes (or whatever) were being sent to get the towers really fucked up. i mean, what if five planes couldn't hit correctly? would more have been sent to the towers than just the two? why no panic to get people out immediately, just like us residents 20, 30, 50, 100 miles away not knowing what's going on... okay, so what were they thinking and waiting for?
shit, i would've been running like hell down those stairs. i don't give a damn what they told those people to do inside. fuck "the authorities."
red _________________ just cos things are fucked up doesn't mean it isn't progress... |
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leon
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1046 Location: 3d-rate nation
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Anglo American inteligencia covered itself with lasting shame (including figures like Chomsky) allowing the 911 cover story to dominate US public opinion.
And the best they could do is endless bickering about technical details of the operation that you could argue till your face turns blue. |
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RedMahna

Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 1407 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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i haven't the first foggiest clue to technicals besides what hundreds of engineers disagree on, which obviously all us lay people will want to pontificate on also...
what i'm saying is - if authorities don't have the official word on something, they basically pretend it doesn't exist. likewise, if they give you the official word on something, then no other option or reality exists.
take the recent earthquake for example. my roomie comes home from work and says the company which owns the building he works in did not make an official announcement about the event being an earthquake, therefore it was not an earthquake no matter how you dispute it (even though it clearly was already on the USGS site as a 5.8 earthquake).
no official word - no event.
official word - no disputing of fact.
red _________________ just cos things are fucked up doesn't mean it isn't progress... |
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RedMahna

Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 1407 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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and for the record, the only truth in existence is that matter can neither be created nor destroyed... everythng else is negotiable.
in all ideologies, if you have the luck and ability to pretend and/or ass-kiss your way into the current crony-clan, you will live to be more free than your peers.
now, in america, or any "free-market" system, you can in fact say whatever the hell you want, provided you run it like a business, and not like a rebellion (that isn't sanctioned by the mainstream powers). so if you make DVD's about 9/11 or JFK or whatever, go right ahead. michael moore has the blessing of Fox News and Murdoch and the CIA and the White House and everyone else to keep filling up theatres everywhere he can.
you wanna post on YouTube and get 10,000,000 hits? go right ahead.
you wanna sell a book? go right ahead.
be as controversial as you want. controversy sells.
provided you have backers that get returns on their investment.
red _________________ just cos things are fucked up doesn't mean it isn't progress... |
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