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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:05 pm    Post subject: Audio: Could Fukushima Destroy America? Reply with quote

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Beautiful Truth Show - 16th May, 2012

Could Fukushima Destroy America?

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LINKS:

Visit Will Davis's APR blog for
comprehensive background links

"FINTAN DUNNE INTERVIEW - LISTENER RESOURCES"
HERE:
http://atomicpowerreview.blogspot.com/2012/05/fintan-dunne-interview-resources.html



Arnie Gunderson website: http://fairewinds.com/fukushima
Arnie Gundersen has 40-years of nuclear power engineering experience. He attended Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) where he earned his Bachelor Degree cum laude while also becoming the recipient of a prestigious Atomic Energy Commission Fellowship for his Master Degree in nuclear engineering. Arnie holds a nuclear safety patent, was a licensed reactor operator, and is a former nuclear industry senior vice president. During his nuclear power industry career, Arnie also managed and coordinated projects at 70-nuclear power plants in the US.



The Top Short-Term Threat to Humanity: The Fuel Pools of Fukushima April 7 2012
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/04/the-largest-short-term-threat-to-humanity-the-fuel-pools-of-fukushima.html


Senator: Fukushima Fuel Pool Is a National Security Issue for AMERICA May 7 2012
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-19-07/senator-fukushima-fuel-pool-national-security-issue-america


The Worst Yet to Come? Why Nuclear Experts Are Calling Fukushima a Ticking Time-Bomb - Alternet May 4, 2012


Gov’t sources say No. 4 pool a grave concern — Storage pool barely intact - April 2nd, 2012


Seismologist Casts a Shadow: Major Earthquake to Hit Tokyo Soon? May 14 2012
University of Tokyo seismologist Shinichi Sakai has very bad news for the human race.
Sakai is a prominent Japanese seismologist who is predicting a major earthquake to hit Tokyo soon.
http://theintelhub.com/2012/05/14/seismologist-casts-a-shadow-major-earthquake-to-hit-tokyo-soon/


Reactor 4 is falling apart - Dec 12th, 2011
http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/12/reactor-4-is-falling-apart/


Germany’s ZDF tv quotes nuclear engineer Yukitero Naka:
If another earthquake occurs then the building [number 4] could collapse and another chain reaction could very likely occur.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rFqhKhtB7Q&feature=player_embedded


Plutonium in troubled reactors, spent fuel pools - March 18, 2011
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/18/plutonium-troubled-reactors-spent-fuel-pools/


Tokyo Soil Samples Would Be Considered Nuclear Waste In The US
http://fairewinds.com/sites/fairewinds.org/files/Laboratory_Test_Results_Tokyo_soil_samples_gundersen.pdf



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The Beautiful Truth Show - 16th March, 2011 @ 8pmGMT

Interview Guest: Will Davis http://atomicpowerreview.blogspot.com/

Media Hysteria Versus Reality In Japan's Nuclear Incident

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BELOW IS THE FIRST POSTING ON THIS INCIDENT
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This topic was originally entitled:
"Second Japan Nuclear Plant Now Out Of Control"
@ 5:05pm 11th March

Then entitled:
"High Meltdown Risk At Some Japanese Reactors"
until 11:30pm 11th March

Then "Holding on the Brink of Nuclear Catastrophe"




11 Mar 2011 @ 5:05pmEST

3 Minutes Ago:

**Note this loss of control is NOT
at the Daiichi plant which was the
subject of earlier media reports


Quote:
Temperatures Rising At Fukushima
Daini No.1, No.2 Reactors


By Mari Iwata, Dow Jones Newswires

TOKYO (Dow Jones)--Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Saturday that the
temperatures of its No.1 and No.2 reactors at its Fukushima Daini nuclear
power station are rising, and it has lost control over pressure in the
reactors.


Fukushima Daini station is the second nuclear power plant the company
has in Fukushima prefecture in northeastern Japan, where the troubled
Fukushima Daiichi plant is located.


http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110311-715299.html

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just trawling through the TepCo press releases
to see if Dow Jones and Wall St Journal have
this story right.

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/index-e.html

If they do...... this is serious.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Daini Plant is the one highlighted in Red

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the last status report on the Daini plant:

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Unit 1 (shut down at 2:48PM on March 11th)
- Reactor is shut down and reactor water level is stable.
- Offsite power is available.
- Control rods are fully inserted (reactor is in subcritical status)
- Status of main steam isolation valve: closed
- Injection of water into the reactor had been done by the Reactor Core
Isolation Cooling System, but at 3:48AM, injection by Make-up Water
Condensate System begun.
- At 6:08PM, we announced the increase in reactor containment vessel pressure,
assumed to be due to leakage of reactor coolant. However, we do not believe
there is leakage of reactor coolant in the containment vessel at this moment.

Unit 2 (shut down at 2:48PM on March 11th)
- Reactor is shut down and reactor water level is stable.
- Offsite power is available.
- Control rods are fully inserted (reactor is in subcritical status)
- Status of main steam isolation valve: closed
- Injection of water into the reactor had been done by the Reactor Core
Isolation Cooling System, but at 4:50AM, injection by Make-up Water
Condensate System begun.
- We do not believe there is leakage of reactor coolant in the containment
vessel.

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11031209-e.html

So they are saying that the pressure is rising
in the outer containment vessel --but there
is no leak from the coolant into the outer.

No mention there of a loss of control of this pressure,
though the online press releases may be behind newswires.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well AP is running with the Dow Jones report.

So I suppose I'll accept it for now.

Many journalists are gong to miss on this news
because of the confusion with the Daiichi plant
which featured in earlier media reports and
which had an evacuation zone declared around it.

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By MALCOLM FOSTER - Associated Press

TOKYO — Japanese nuclear officials say radiation levels inside a nuclear power plant have surged to 1,000 times their normal levels after the cooling system failed in the wake of the tsunami unleashed by Japan’s biggest recorded earthquake.

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Saturday that the temperatures of its No.1 and No.2 reactors at the plant in question, called the Fukushima Daini nuclear power station are rising, and it has lost control over pressure in the reactors, according to Dow Jones Newswire.

http://www.freep.com/article/20110311/

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freepers are on to this too:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2687433/posts


But people are still confusing this with the Daiichi plant.
If a news report mentions the Fukushima Number 1 reactor,
then that is NOT specific enough. There are two plants at
Fukushima and both have multiple reactors.

Just heard it on TV about a second reactor,
so I suppose this is legitimate, but I'd like
to get more detail on the exact nature of
the "loss of control."

See Also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_Water_Reactor

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BWR schematic.
1. Reactor pressure vessel (RPV)
2. Nuclear fuel element
3. Control rods
4. Circulation pumps
5. Engine control rods
6. Steam
7. Feedwater
8. High pressure turbine (HPT)
9. Low pressure turbine
10. Generator
11. Exciter
12. Condenser
13. Coolant
14. Pre-heater
15. Feedwater pump
16. Cold water pump
17. Concrete enclosure
18. Mains connection

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah those TapCo online news releases are
way behind the newswire. They just updated
with their 7am report - but it was 8:50 in Japan
when they did so:

Still no mention of the problems at Daichi

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11031211-e.html

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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" This is an early designed (late 50’s design) plant, it doesn’t have a
secondary containment dome. If they lose control and there is a
steam explosion radiation will likely spread.
"

-Via Smogger on Freeper Forum


The listed date of commission on the
#1 and #2 reactors is 1982 and 1984

http://www2.jnes.go.jp/atom-db/en/general/atomic/ke02a13/info_g.html

So maybe they are the older design.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gone very quiet on the news wires
since the Dow Jones and AP reports.

Too damn quiet.
Either this story's a miss or a big hit.

Over 8 hours ago, the IAEA confirmed that besides
the widely reported problems at the Daiichi plant, the
other three Fukushima-Daini, Oganawa and Tokai had
been successfully shut down.

So how come there are problems Daini?!?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is AP:

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TOKYO — Coolant systems failed at three quake-stricken Japanese
nuclear reactors Saturday, sending radiation seeping outside one and
temperatures rising out of control at two others.

Radiation surged to around 1,000 times the normal level in the control
room of the No. 1 reactor of the Fukushima Daichi plant, Japan's Nuclear
and Industrial Safety Agency said. Radiation — it was not clear how much
— had also seeped outside, prompting widening of an evacuation area to
a six-mile radius from a two-mile radius around the plant. Earlier, 3,000
people had been urged to leave their homes.

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Saturday that the temperatures of its No.1
and No.2 reactors at its Fukushima Daini nuclear power station were
rising, and it had lost control over pressure in the reactors
.

http://www.kget.com/news/local/story/4-p-m-update-3-nuclear-reactors

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Japan Nuclear Plant Evacuation; Protective Winds Flowing

Saturday, 12 March 2011, 11:37 am
Press Release: Accuweather.Com

State College, Pa. -- 11 March 2011 -- AccuWeather reports officials have
shut down a nuclear power plant in earthquake-ravaged north-central Japan.
Winds could help protect nearby residents in the event of a radiation leak.

The Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant is currently not leaking radiation,
but the threat of a leak has prompted officials to evacuate nearly 3,000
people within the surrounding 2 miles.

In the event of a leak Friday night, local time (through this evening EST),
winds flowing from the northwest to west may help guide most of the
radiation offshore.

Winds will remain offshore Saturday, local time, despite turning more to
the southwest.

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TEPCO: loses control of pressure at 2nd nuclear plant

TOKYO | Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:14pm EST

(Reuters) - Tokyo Electric Power said it had lost its ability to control pressure in some of the reactors of a second nuclear power plant at its quake-hit Fukushima facility in northeastern Japan.

Pressure is stable inside the reactors but rising in the containment vessels, a spokesman said, although he did not know if there would be a need to release pressure at the plant at this point, which would involve a release of radiation.

(Reporting by Osamu Tsukimori; Editing by Edwina Gibbs and Edmund Klamann)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/11/us-japan-quake-tepco-daini-idUSTRE72A8GM20110311


Right, some more detail at last.

And it's not reassuring.

In fact, it doesn't make sense.

If the reactor/containment barrier is not breached,
(as other reports and IAEA report seem to indicate)
then any release of containment pressure would
NOT involve a release of radiation.

But then......

If the reactor/containment barrier is not breached
the why the hell is pressure rising in the containment??!

Doesn't compute.

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Japan issues 2nd nuclear plant emergency
Radiation levels at reactor rise after earthquake


CBC News Posted: Mar 11, 2011 5:47 PM ET
Last Updated: Mar 11, 2011 6:57 PM ET

The Japanese government declared has issued a state of emergency at a second nuclear power plant following cooling-systems failures.

The emergency declarations followed Friday's 8.9-magnitude earthquake off the country's northeast coast. The quake, the most powerful in Japan's recorded history, triggered a massive tsunami wave.

At the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant in Onahama city, about 270 kilometres northeast of Tokyo, a power failure triggered a problem in a cooling system, causing radiation levels in a reactor to rise to 1,000 times normal. Japan's nuclear safety agency said some radiation escaped from the plant.

The quake cut off power to the plant, . A backup generator failed and the primary cooling system was not able to supply water to the plant's 460-megawatt No. 1 reactor.

The government ordered 3,000 residents to leave the area.

Japanese nuclear safety official Yuji Kakizaki said plant workers were cooling the reactor with a less-effective secondary cooling system. Kakizaki said an emergency cooling system remains intact and ready to kick in if required to prevent a reactor meltdown.

Japan's nuclear safety agency said pressure inside the Fukushima No. 1 reactor has risen to 1.5 times the level considered normal.

To reduce the pressure, slightly radioactive vapour will be released.

Yukio Edano, the chief cabinet secretary, said the amount of radioactive element in the vapor would be "very small."

"With evacuation in place and the ocean-bound wind, we can ensure the safety," Edano said early Saturday in a news conference.

Japan's nuclear safety agency said the radioactive vapour would not affect the environment or human health.

Plant workers were scrambling to restore the cooling water supply at the plant but there was no prospect of immediate success, The Associated Press reported. The U.S. offered to rush coolant to Japan, but a U.S. official later said the Japanese handled it themselves.

Meanwhile, NBC reported a similar coolant problem at the Fukushima Daini station, which is in the same Fukushima prefecture as the other power plant. At the Daini station, backup diesel generators are reported to have failed, leaving the unit without power to run its cooling systems
Builders plan for quakes


Kaoru Ishikawa, the Japanese ambassador to Canada, said all the nuclear power plants in Japan were built "bearing in mind the possibility of big earthquakes."

He said all the plants in the affected area were shut down automatically after the quake, but he noted the coolant problem at the Fukushima plant continued.

The International Atomic Energy Agency said Japanese authorities also reported a fire at the Onagawa nuclear plant. The fire has been extinguished.

"They say Onagawa, Fukushima-Daini and Tokai nuclear power plants were also shut down automatically, and no radiation release has been detected," the IAEA said in a statement posted online

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/11/earthquake-japan-nuclear-reactor.html

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Ron Chesser, director for the Center of Environmental Radiation Studies at Texas Tech University, was the first American scientist allowed inside the exclusion zone in 1992 following the Chernobyl disaster. He can discuss issues that Fukushima workers may be facing in light of the cooling system troubles.

Chesser said that though reports have stated the reactors were shut down safely, the reactors still must be cooled constantly to avoid a meltdown of the core.

All four reactors have been shut down at Fukushima Daini.

"The fact they're having trouble cooling the reactors is going to trigger an emergency," Chesser said. "There are certain trigger points for declaring an emergency at nuclear reactors. Reduction in cooling capacity would be one of those. Release of radiation would be another. Reactors are not like your car that you can turn off and walk away. They're going to continue generating a great amount of heat until the core is disassembled. Without cooling water, then you stand a real chance of a meltdown of core that could result in a large release of radiation, potentially."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110311171137.htm

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