youtube vid on karma

[Azoth]

I suppose we are light years apart then - and I still wonder why the fuck you and only you keep responding to my posts. You're recent prose is a bit too open ended to get anything out of. But your point on ego is clear. Perhaps that's all you're clear on?

I had a break in formal education (indicated in natal chart). Never went back because I knew myself. My neurotic introversion/depressive moods preclude me from most professional settings. Plus I've always had a problem with math.

No problem in general. Problem was that I never had the entrepreneurial spirit so have worked for others most of my life. Made Them money...

You need to type with your own ilk. Or do you like blown out psychonauts with schizo like episodes with enough fear and guilt to fill a canyon? You might like some of my art but also likely to never see any. I've spent the last two decades steeped in books and feel I've the equivalent to a masters in esoteric subjects, without the names and dates etc. On this side of it tho, seems all this was wheel spinning and pure speculation. Nothing to show and I'll be damned if I write my own rehash of it all!

I suppose a love life might be of import but I really have no experience in that dept. Seems these days one is better off alone.

I've been calling all the above diversion anyway. It's all diversion from cold, hard Existence. Where's that zen cushion?

We appreciate yet wonder at your sharing. We must have some little quirk of similitude to drag this on for so long.

[Peter]

The "lack" of common ground makes the sharing all the more valuable.

A fundamental principle of existence, and the basis for the exchange, is that we are not intelligent of and by ourselves.

Intelligence is not facts, nor understanding nor application, it is the resonant increase in the vibrational frequency of our psychic processes DIRECTED towards our further evolution. Anything else is window-dressing and time-wasting.

This process can be otherwise described as the movement of the spirit in the material plane.

As far as our social skills go, our female counterparts are a necessary key to the evolutionary door and more than just procreatively. Find a woman that will put up with you and explore those vast areas that she will provide in terms of recognition of reality. The female essence is more ethereal than that of the male and we benefit greatly from their willingness to share unconditionally. It is a maternal thing. We return the favor by providing security and strength.

Why are we exchanging thusly? Your reception is non-judgemental, your openness is acute and your participation is up-front. Can't really ask for more than that. Content is only filler, after all. Intent is what counts. Once we realize that we are not advancing any thing but that we are, ourselves, advancing, participation becomes an obvious need to be fulfilled. That takes some time to overcome the resistance of the ego but it does make a big difference to our evolutionary process.

[Azoth]

Words of wisdom and wilco.

"We return the favor by providing security and strength." There is the catch, condition rather; security. Things and security....

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5 pages of rambling!

Next....

Hope you can help. Paul La Violette Phd, whom I just emailed. I'm rereading his Genesis of Creation, which opines that the Tarot as well as Zodiacal Signs encode a creation or aether physics.

This seems fairly evident in his overview of Egyptian Creation myth. But he is saying, with good effect however, that this same lore is contained in said systems. He provides his new - supposed proper - ordering of these systems!

Having been into Ceremonial Magick for a decade I thought I'd hit up Joseph Peterson, the scholarly esoteric author and owner of Twilit Grotto (huge repository of classical esoteric literature).

The one functional word in his response was "suspicious". Paul has made quite a show of this yet I've tasked google and cannot find anything relating to this supposed work by Iamblichus entitled "Egyptian Initiation". Joseph has copies of the "Egyptian Mysteries" by the same author.
Target book supposedly contains images from Egyptian Frescoes used for initiation/teachings on creation physics etc.

I just hope I haven't been spinning my wheels again - by a significantly accomplished scientist this time. I will give him the benefit of the doubt however due to his track record. I hope he gets back to me. Should have mentioned that I've given tarot and zodiac a lot of consideration over the years. Hence my muddling here.

Do you hear what I'm saying!? Loose ends!! I hate loose ends! But I am now moving onto Randy's advanced series on vortex math....

....which is basically me avoiding life as usual. I'll likely never do anything with this but just want to grok it. Seriously tho, I'm into it as this must be a unique way of looking at consciousness - and the Aether is so cool itself. I somewhat suspect that someone with a grasp of esoteric anatomy might be able to make some connections here.

I've got about another week and a half then it's back to hell. I've been downloading music tracks by The Red Army Choir! I also like the German Waffen marching songs etc. Great for motivation, or distraction, at work.

Lastly; eh?

Mark

Have been divorced since 83. Too many woman around here into Things or status. But I've my own weakness; a nice ass.

[Peter]

Mysteries are that which is occulted from our experience because the time is not yet right for our exposure to them.

Initiation is experiencing mysteries before it is our time to become aware of them.

Conscious awareness is, in its basic form, the ability to discern the presence of mysteries before they can initiate us and provoke the attendant suffering that goes with that premature exposure.

Enlightenment is the freedom from the accumulation of memorial forms that result from initiation and experience.

Creativity is the demonstration of the movement of the spirit in the current plane of existence.

It's all good...

We are beings with a physical manifestation because we need that density to generate the movement that adjusts our subtle bodies. That our not-so-subtle body be moved by any manner of stimuli is part of the package and should be taken into consideration. Even though what is above cannot be below, per se, we are the battleground between those two states and being forewarned is being forearmed.

[Azoth]

I didn't get the response notification this time. A lot has transpired since my last post!! They are now of course talking about HAARP being used over there.......

Is this a hot thread?

I did get a response from Mr. La Violette. He "assured" me the book exists. But I'm rereading his book here and it's always better the 2nd time round. Good work and now I've yet another way of looking at tarot and zodiac. It would be nice if I could actually get something out of them for myself.

I just posted a link to an action network in some other forums here. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?page_id=195
I submitted my first form to an official's office. The provide the message but you can edit so I ended the default message with my thoughts concerning the nature of the times we are in.

Etc and if they really used haarp..... I heard that the epicenter was miles down so I didn't think haarp would be a factor, altho I know it may penetrate clean through. But Alan Watt is apparently subscribing to the idea. I'm right now downloading his latest to see what he actually says. I've come to trust this guy's gist. Not the exaggerations but the gist.

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My teacher said I did and excellent job with Dr. Dee's natal chart. I know you don't give a hoot but he sent me Dee's D20 varga chart which pertains to worship exclusively. He's got both N and S nodes in Ascendant.
The contextual question was about the Nature of the System Dee channeled (via Kelly). So the nodes in 1st house, to me, indicates that the system itself is rife with um, speculative specters. Ie., use with caution.

Yeah, I guess this is a hot thread as I'm almost certain the above is a new insight into Dee's mind. I doubt too many folks have looked at Dee's charts in a vedic light. But his main chart is "off the board" with auspicious alignments.

So guess what mate? It's Karma time once again : ) Beg your indulgence and superb spiritual qualities to consider;

Dr. Dee, 007 and the Queen's spy, astrologer, aide, lover etc. As we know, the guy was a leading figure in ushering our corporate world hell - which is today's new world order. Yes, he contributed significantly with many noble works. But it would appear his motives were on the ...exploitive side when it came to certain things, such as British Empire (His coined phrase btw).

Now what kind of karma is there when say an all round good guy has some little side project - where he himself waives the dirty work - which influences the course of history in a decidedly negative manner?

First off is my earlier thought as karma may be what you simply think it to be. So if you're conditioned to believe blonds should die, then so be it and we'll see you in heaven as we did our job.

2ndly, there's the little item of the Collective Unconscious....where Perhaps man's sense of morals or ethics over rides individual perceptions and or conditioning of psyche.

So it's a hard call already.

But looking from the other angle > Dee had an enormous amount of fully beneficial aspects that Enabled him to do As such.
This, is the curiousness of it all. All that's logically left is that perhaps Dee's own dharmic path was sidetracked (into intrigues etc). But this also could Be his dharma. Where's that chart again....

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Back to La Violette and tarot. He really does do a good job in playing his subquantum kinetics model off the tarot's images. I'm kinda psyched and even mailed him back saying there just might be something here that ties the macro and micro together (in effect).
That is, if the cards could be read correctly on all levels and we also knew the fucking truth about how all our glands and chakras worked, there might be enough to figure out how telekinesis and the like works. A total control of consciousness - and thus matter.

Now I did hear for the first time, having heard "all" angles, that This (idea) was what the Knights Templar were in fact after. That This, idea was or Is the Holy Grail. Manipulation of matter via kabbalistic (likely pre cataclysmic initiates) codes.

Hope I'm not killing bandwidth with these speculations.

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Last but Not least and I feel compelled to share this with you. Yesterday I was fussing over a personal issue. I was lying down and sincerely asked my higher self to please send a message - specifically via a Blue Jay (long story) - about it within the next five minutes if possible. I use both space and time frames to help better isolate any incoming signal.
So as I was waiting, I drifted into alpha and let go....to get a spontaneous image of the Memphis Belle (in that movie). The roughed up B-17 on it's last leg home...where they threw out the 50's to lighten the load. At the moment when I saw the guy toss the 50, a Woodpecker came right up to the bedroom wall and pecked on it about three or four times and just left.

Now they say there are no coincidences!

I can't prove anything here but can say this is becoming the norm. I love birds and try to "work" with them. Lore has it that the small ones relay messages from spirit.

But my thought was this; the spontaneous imagery was very akin to your basic dream imagery - which is what your higher self uses or can use. So it appears to me that is exactly what happened. My HS jumped in just when I had that to say, "yup, you need to lighten your load in order to move on".
Meaning, my issue was about habits and insatiable desire. These are simply keeping me at lower levels of consciousness.

Now That is No Revelation whatsoever! And this seems to be the trend. I just can't seem to get Useful Information from my ventures with spirit or whatever you want to cal it. Yet, there's always this amazing phenomenon - where either an aspect of myself or some interested entity seems to manipulate the local environs.

I may, have got the clearest manifestation yet from my higher self. It has the power to both see my thoughts and influence birds and god knows what else. Or, was that bird a part of some kind of thought/torsion field I generated?

Hard to say of course. But it still happened and I intended something like it to happen.

Ok, I'm all ears. But if that was a Blue Jay I'd be totally freaked right now.

[Azoth]

Could be a more reasonable assessment. I considered plasma build up. Plus have been feeling out of sorts lately so thought the sun might be burping again.

"Coverage of the breaking story of the huge 8.9 quake that struck northeastern Japan began in the latter half of the second hour. First, earth changes expert Mitch Battros joined the program, citing 10 M class flares from sunspots 1166 & 1163 during the last 48 hours as a possible cause for the quake. A large X class flare is likely within the next 2 weeks, he added. In addition to earthquakes, and tsunamis, we should watch out for volcanoes, and not just in the Ring of Fire area, he added.

In the next segment, author and researcher Stan Deyo suggested that fluctuations in the gravitational field could be related to increased quake activity. "If the 8.9 shockwave over in Japan (related images) comes across and triggers the Juan de Fuca (tectonic) plate (between Washington and Oregon)-- it has an equally large stress build-up, around a Richter 9," he warned. Metaphysician and author Stuart Wilde appeared briefly during the last hour, discussing some of his predictions of earth calamities."

Ben Fulford was talking about haarp. Not sure if this guy is to be trusted. But how and who gains from telling folks it was haarp? Big Bully Fear factor?

[Azoth]

There is a traditional rule in magickal circles to "keep silent' about one's workings. I no longer consider this magickal but I used to post some of these experiences at magick based forums....mainly trying to get feedback but I never ever got anything useful. Makes you wonder about them.

But I mentioned the birds. Blue Jays. It was a Woodpecker yesterday.

But I just did the same thing I did yesterday regarding the same issue. I asked for the same signal; a nearby squawk from a Blue Jay (as confirmation) within a minute or two. And this is just what happened. One solitary squawk from a Jay within a minute.

This has happened before and I think I'm onto something. I think there really was a Green Language or Language of the Birds. I do Not mean word play as that seems to be what is meant in these times.

I am now sure birds have been used for many such things as this. Augury. I suspect they have come in handy in local tribal battles.

Well I acted on this and "cleaned house", again.

If all this is coincidence please pass the thorazine or something.

[Peter]

"Something" would be preferable.

Ascension involves the raising of vibratory frequency to a state where a "phase" change is possible. Sensitivity is a function of our state of awareness. The more we can relate to our surroundings (ie the less we are influenced by our own, internally-generated illusions) the greater becomes our ability to assimilate the vibe and profit from its energetic content and manifestation.

My own experience is that everything relates, yet nothing is "proof" because proof can be polarized into right and wrong or good and evil as we explore the extent and content of our cosmic self. Ask for a sign and if you get one or not, what is the significance? Are you better or worse off because of it being there or not? Time and energy wasting comes from the pursuit of the elusive. Time and energy use comes from putting into motion that which demonstrates and reveals knowledge and content of self. The differentiating factor is where it leads you and that can only be determined by exposing one's essence and looking at it in the light provided by the exchange.

We are an infinite microcosm and, as such, we need to enlarge our contents so that they become visible and viable. That expansion is part and parcel of the expansion of our consciousness. It comes from the fount that is our essence and that is revealed by our own outpouring.

[Azoth]

I guess your "everything relates, yet nothing is 'proof'" sums it up. Reminds me of that magickal adage, "nothing is true, everything is permitted".

All I can say is timing, apparently, plays an important role in this stuff. There are also times I "think" the whole thing really is a vast program...
Like with this bird episode, the whole thing was "coded" to happen, likely ages ago.... that is, "ages", in a holographic now.

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Cool articles in newspapers from India, where they relate technologies from reverse engineered et craft. These weren't in the comics section. The military groups around the world are in a race to figure this stuff out. So the beans have spilled.

[Azoth]

Surfed by to ask something and thought to re ask or posit something here.

The idea of Dr. Dee above...

Or say any person who is near the top echelons. Say a super rich banker or ceo etc. Now their (Sidereal) chart will clearly indicate the likelihood of that lofty position, with all it's material boons. These indications for the most part are considered "auspicious". Favorable trends anyone might want.

Enter karma; what does an incarnated human do to reap such auspicious alignments? Rather, what did they do? As we have it, one gets what one puts out....

As an example, take your guy with everything - say one of the elites (as not all may be stuffy genocidal maniacs, who basically calls shots fating millions to woe and lack. In order to incarnate at space time coordinates conducive to an auspicious natal chart, one should need some decidedly good actions and motives from a "past" incarnation.

As we have it, it appears these folks with the goods got there Due to those alignments. This can "only" mean that they had some significantly good qualities at some other coordinate (incarnation).

"Some other" coordinate may be the key; nothing linear here in the reincarnation process. If not, something is amiss for sure.

Simply put; how does a guy reap such auspicious alignments, to reap tangible bounty and favor, to Then act out as someone worse than say Stalin? That is, to Get those Favorable astrological alignments one needs to live accordingly.

So what we see here, at this time, is certain folks who may have been rather saintly in one incarnation - to reap "subsequent" good alignments; ie., karma - Reincarnate with those good alignments....to Then think and act as a psycho pathological killer.

Simply put, how does a saint (supposedly reaping good karma) suddenly turn into a compassion less fiend "next" time round?

Seems to me that it may not be all that linear. This or our consensus view of karma is way off. Peter did mention that the person (with good astro aspects) doesn't necessarily Have to act out negatively.

I think that's a detail in a larger pot of sludge. Some of these opportunistic characters today got there by preordained forces... So where did these present incarnations Lose those qualities which accounted for those favorable alignments!?

Yes, thinking out loud. So we've reincarnation as (possibly) non linear...
we've got means as to ends.

A speculation of mine is that the elites (as always, not all but maybe so) actually know how Karma works. Altho breeding studies seem to indicate that inbreeding and other contrivances are in effect degrading, there may be another less known benefit concerning reincarnation ties. There may be some other mode of getting around this apparent law.

There is of course the idea that we are own own judge. This is likely the case. So I hate to say it but it does kinda seem psycho pathology has some benefit. If you believe that hitting Bill upside the head was for his own good........

As an aside I studied the chart of Kurt Cobain, who's life's vectors are clearly portrayed with a slew of INauspicious alignments. Poor guy, he was set up from the get go. Yet the chart also shows that he wasn't about to kill, subvert or charge someone usury interest etc etc etc.

A bit too complex to keep rambling of course but surely you get my major point. There seems to be a disconnect from one round to the next when it comes to the "latter's" actions.
A counterpoint however is that for the majority of us mediocre folk, Karma (still, apparently) seems to be the sticky glue of all we are about.

I recently perused the chart of a super guru from the 19th century who had a friggin Host of absolutely positive and powerful alignments. I can Only guess what this dude's "next" incarnation would be/is like. If at all of course (maybe he got off the Wheel altogether).

But all this does not rule out...still, when you consider all the above....that this guru in the 1800's could have ended up ("next" time round) as a soldier in the wehrmacht on the eastern front. I surely wouldn't bet on that but just restating my observation on apparent inconsistency.

But he ended up in the Stalingrad Pocket all because he (as the guru) smacked that mosquito. Tsk.

Unfortunately, I've also been speculating that the system, with it's super high tech scalar stuff, might now be able to add to this mix.

[Peter]

We tend to complicate what is essentially simple. There aren't that many universal principles, after all.

Since everything is energy, approach it in terms of how you would expect water (or electricity) to flow and interact with its surroundings. Seems simplistic but definitely representative of the manifestation of the underlying fundamentals.

Karma is definitely a rebound effect. You end up twice as restricted as before.... (sorry for the pun, but I couldn't resist ) Reincarnation is just the part of the process that allows you the chance to forgo refining and take on defining, as far as you own personal habits are concerned. Once you can elucidate and illuminate your own self, you are more than half-way there.

[Azoth]

Hi. It's this linear thing - or not. Just seems some folks make some kind of turn around - acting outside their prior leanings.

Also wondering about the situation where several souls in bardo may want the same coordinates. Like these guys with superb alignments. Perhaps there's others floating around who'd like those same alignments....
Have read about "fighting" over entry points and parents but who really can tell, eh?

How's those guys that came up with "hose head" and hoser?

[Peter]

Perhaps probabilistic is more appropriate. What with the parallel planes of existence and multiverse scenario, we "fit" into the shoes that we have to wear. This takes a lot of stress off of the shopping meme and allows us to take full advantage of the track, dancing, hiking or whatever shoe we are in...

Transitional states being just that, from my perspective, it depends on how refined the requirement. You worked that shoe-leather to complete suppleness....it makes no sense to have to go back to cattle-raising, right?

Back to the original analogy, it doesn't matter where the water behind the dam came from, what counts is that it is there, potential all ready and you have your hand on the raceway control. How the power generated is to be used depends on how that energy is directed and that is what our consciousness is all about. Direction.

[Azoth]

A few years back I gave into a temptation, where today something somewhat similar presented itself; I learned my lesson and will not indulge > altho it really doesn't seem to be a big deal >> But with my over the top guilt it's simply not worth it.

As for the rest, probably. I'm rereading the Tibetan book and of course it's uncanny how developed it all is compared to most everything else out there.

Well, it (in general) may have something to do with the apparent fact that the Higher Self throws out multiple incarnations within the great now moment. It would be so awesome to meet another incarnation from my/our Higher Self.

I'll spare you the details but all that stuff about the wilds birds.... this has gone off the board and I need a break now. Conjunct this I was actually communicating with the consciousness of a passing thunder storm. It even came back after I did some very heart felt mantra chanting for it. It's funny how our minds anthropomorph incoming energies.

I finally got another job which will hopefully keep me around. Hence my recent posts I suppose.

Kind Regards

[Peter]

Congrats on the gameful employ. First and foremost, the initial test is: "Can you make a living at living?"

Once that hurdle is passed, the rest is the start of the ultimate test of our duality: "What are you doing (where are you going) with what you have?" This is a fundamental aspect of the process because one of the traps along the way is the attraction of the spiritual path. Getting side-tracked because of pride in our movement in the moment is constant and consistent. If whatever you have to do or say does not have a bearing and an influence on your very being, then you are headed in the wrong direction.

The mind is a great place to spend time, if you don't mind.