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noplacebo
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| i beg to differ, the only constant is change,oh and as well as your incessant sniping. |
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noplacebo
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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| i think the topic i was looking for( the peoples revolution, libya yemen etc) seems to have been subsumed by the "tarhir square..." heading.havent been in in a while was just wondering like ,ok. |
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Fintan Site Admin

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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Egyptian security forces shooting at head-level
yesterday on Mohammed Mahmoud street:
_________________ Minds are like parachutes.
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atm

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Fintan Site Admin

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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yeah, Tony Cartalucci : the thinking man's Alex Jones.
Cartalucci ( if he exists - other than as a pool of CIA authors)
writes for CIA Fakes such as Infowars and Global Research.
Like Alex Jones, but on less steroids, Cartalucci says we are headed for:
Sure. The NWO is fast going down history's toilet, but using it's
stable of paid goon writers and broadcasters to assure us otherwise.
The Cartalucci material on Tahiland was a crafty construction, but their
work on spreading disinfo about Egypt is rather shoddy by comparison:
So Mubarak was an enemy of the NWO?! Gosh whou'da thunk.
Somebody should tell Hillary CLinton, whose family are well known
to be very close to the Mubaraks.
According to the Cartalucci material, the SCAF Egyptian army were the
real allies of the NWO - and were happy to see Mubarak go.
So....... why are we having another revolution?
Again, according to the Cartalucci material the SCAF Egyptian army
--allies of the NWO earlier this year-- have now also become the
enemy of the NWO!?
All this flies in the face of the facts:
the Egyptian army and Mubarak have always been allied with the
Anglo-Americans and Israel. And the Egyptian people are battling
to get rid of both.
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_________________ Minds are like parachutes.
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atm

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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:54 am Post subject: |
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Eh, eh, get me a court of appeal, capeesh?
Meantime:
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noplacebo
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| i think we can assume correctly the egyptian situation is being funded covertly by the usual pack of wolves, circling, ready to consume their meal. but i do think that the genuine egyptian citizens are mobbing here, which is calling for the more circuitous approach. but in libya it was openly funded by taxpayers and supported by the media, as well as by some commentators on here, whom by wagging their tongues in support gave another wiggle on the penknife to remove the irksome stone(gadaffi) from the shoe of global finance. of course gadaffi was a tyrant,but look at the situation now, the people are out of their imprisoned frying pan and into the fire of freedom, only now they have a bunch of out and out mercenaries to deal with,whom kick the people to the gutter for the dogs to queue along the sidewalk for their share of the kill. dispassionate analysis and debate might be too much to ask for in these heated times,but i think thats what most people come to this forum for. not to fall in behind some flag waving |
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atm

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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Fintan
it would seem that we have become errant victims of thine common enemy.
I apologize for any offence; twas not meant caustic, merely rumbustious.
atm |
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Fintan Site Admin

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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:18 am Post subject: |
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What 'caustic'? No Prob. Rumbustious I anticipate.
Noplacebo, the fire of any freedom is better than
the frying pan of tyranny. Not perfect. But better.
Just because the NWO is active in trying to buy themselves a
piece of the Arab revolutions, does not mean they originated
the revolution. The Arab Spring was born out of decades of
ruthless oppression by bought and paid NWO regimes.
History knows that.
And the Arabs know that.
They are not stupid.
In Egypt, they know El-Baradei is a clear American proxy.
In Syria they know the NWO faction is trying a hijack gambit.
In Libya all know the NWO bought influence with air power.
There is a battle on to try subvert the revolutions.
The job of the left-gatekeeper media is to spin the revolts as an
NWO job --to try prevent Westerners from becoming inspired by
Arabs to throw off the same oppressive NWO regime. Simple.
The gatekeepers needed to come up with a plausible explanation for
why the NWO would want to get rid of a dictator, Gadaffi -- with whom
they were already doing very profitable business and who had long
since been welcomed into the fold as a comrade - feted by Tony Blair.
Without a plausible explanation for why the NWO would dump Gadaffi,
the whole disinfo scheme would look lame. So they came up with the
idea that Gadaffi's gold dinar project was a threat to the NWO.
Gaddafi organized two conferences. The first in 1986 and the last in 2000.
Neither went anywhere. The idea was an African federation like the EU -
with a currency backed by the dinar. The suitability of Africa's immature
economies for a gold standard was always questionable - and the rest of
Africa was cautious about Gaddafi. The news outlet which drove the hype
about this old gold union idea as a reason for invasion was Russia Today.
To promote disinfo, RT used a minor unknown called Dr. James Thring.
Also appearing on that RT segment were CIA stooge Cynthia McKinney
and the dubious Anthony Wile, founder of the Daily Bell.
A gold Islamic dinar already exists, by the way:
http://www.e-dinar.com/html/1_2.html
And it is already accepted by the IMF as an SDR currency:
http://goldprice.org/gold-mints/2008/08/islamic-mint.html
All this is a re-run of an identical disinfo tactic at the time of the Iraq invasion,
when the disinfo story was that Saddam was about to sell oil in Euros.
| Quote: | The Daily Bell critically examines “The Anglo-American” establishment,
yet what about some of their contributors?
March 28, 2011 by FauxCapitalist
A common theme of The Daily Bell is their critical examination of what they refer to as “The Anglo-American” establishment.
From their Contributors page:
John Browne:
“After graduating from Harvard Business School, he joined Morgan Stanley & Co as an investment banker. He has also worked with Barclays Bank and Citigroup and has served on the boards of several banks and international corporations, with a special involvement in venture capital.“
You can’t get much more Anglo-American than Morgan Stanley (American), Barclays (British) and Citigroup (American).
Anthony Wile (founder):
“Prior to beginning a career in publishing, Mr. Wile worked in the Canadian investment industry with Scotia McLeod (Bank of Nova Scotia), and Nesbitt Burns (Bank of Montreal).“
Being from Canada, I know these two banks well. They are two of Canada’s Big Five government-enforced oligopolistic banks. The Bank of Nova Scotia is Canada’s most international bank, and the Bank of Montreal was the government of Canada’s banker before the establishment of The Bank of Canada in 1935, back when Canada was a dependent creation of British Parliament.
“He continues to advise and consult to large international banks and money managers as well as to senior executives at both senior and junior mining firms.“
If any of the “large international banks” he continues to advise and consult for happen to be based in the U.S. or the UK, then that’s also as Anglo-American establishment as you can get.
http://fauxcapitalist.com/2011/03/28/the-daily-bell-critically-examines-the-anglo-american-establishment-yet-what-about-some-of-their-contributors/
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The Securities and Exchange Commission today announced that the Honorable Denise Cote of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York entered judgments of permanent injunction and other relief against Brian N. Lines, Scott G.S. Lines, Anthony W. Wile, Wayne E. Wew, Lines Overseas Management Ltd., LOM Securities (Bermuda) Ltd., LOM Securities (Bahamas) Ltd., LOM Securities (Cayman) Ltd., and LOM Capital Ltd. on October 15, 2010. (The LOM companies collectively are referred to hereinafter as the “LOM Entities”). All of the foregoing defendants, with the exception of LOM Securities (Bahamas) Ltd. and LOM Securities (Cayman) Ltd., were enjoined by the Court from violating certain of the antifraud provisions of the federal securities laws, as described below.
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/11/bill-black-best-satire-of-faux-austrian-economics-ever.html |
| Quote: | MONDAY, JULY 25, 2005
Cynthia's Big LIHOP Day Out
Rep. Cynthia McKinney led a Capitol Hill hearing Friday on whether the
Bush administration was involved in the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
The eight-hour hearing, was an elaborate farce designed to support the
LIHOP interpretation of the 9/11 attacks. That's the idea that Bush ignored
warnings for political gain.
This is the safe line. The official conspiracy theory.
And these are the official conspiracy theorists.
At the hearing -just to help Cynthia out- were other luminaries such as:
Melvin Goodman, a former CIA official
Robert Baer, author, former CIA official
Melvin Goodman, Fellow, Center for International Policy, former CIA official
John Newman, Ph.D., professor University of West Virginia, former NSA analyst
Nafeez Ahmed, author of The War on Truth,
Paul Thompson, author of The Terror Timeline
Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D., author of Drugs, Oil and War |
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noplacebo
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:02 am Post subject: |
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| i agree with every sentence of your last post, what i thought a little over zealous was you geeing the allied forces on into libya, but that is only my view, disseminated from your most usually adroit reporting. |
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Fintan Site Admin

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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Well perhaps if you spoke to emigrant Libyans who had lived under
and suffered at the hands of Gaddafi's secret police you too would
be cheering his demise. He was little more than a well-dressed thug
running a clan-based system where insiders prospered and the rest
queued up for the leftovers. No offense taken. _________________ Minds are like parachutes.
They only function when open. |
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Fintan Site Admin

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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ Minds are like parachutes.
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noplacebo
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| i am not a gadaffi supporter what i find distasteful is the cheerleading of alliance forces into libya, it is indefenceble to go marching(or flying) into other countries for financial gain. it is predatory warmongering at its worst, pure and simple. |
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leon
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:19 am Post subject: |
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"it is indefenceble to go marching(or flying) into other countries for financial gain"
Is it defensible to go marching(or flying) into other countries and killing it's civil population, destroying its civil infrastructure and unleashing murderous AlQaida thugs on civil population for ANY reason? |
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noplacebo
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Leon,i would say, no it isnt, i was commenting solely on libya, in that instance. |
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