Medanyz RT @AminaIsmail: #CSF withdrew from mohamed mahmoud st.
Now ppl r walking in the st. Don't knw where r they heading yet I think
In fact there is still a standoff skirmish going on at the end of Avenue
Mohamed Mahmoud furthest from Tahrir Sq - as protesters hold the
police back. Protesters had a rooftop presence in the street - which
proved to be the decisive advantage. _________________ Minds are like parachutes.
They only function when open.
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• Thirty-three people are reported killed in the protests,
but there is doubt that all the casualties are accounted for.
• Crowds in Tahrir Square have been growing and clashes are
continuing as night has fallen.
• The Revolutionary Youth Movement has called for a one million
man march in the capital and across the country tomorrow
• Bothaina Kamal, Egypt's only female presidential candidate, has
reportedly told a journalist that she was sexually assaulted when
she was arrested during yesterday's clashes.
• In an effort to retain credibility, civilian political leaders - who have
proved themselves to be largely out of step with the revolutionaries and
the street during the past few days - are being forced to come down to
Tahrir and affirm the right to peaceful protest.
The Guardian's Jack Shenker was in Mohamed Mahmoud street,
off the south-west corner of Tahrir Square. He says numbers on the
streets are growing, as is the intensity of the fighting:
Police are advancing right down Mohammed Mahmoud Street and they are firing volleys of teargas now right into the centre of the square. The sound you can hear around me now is people choking, people spitting and some throwing up, and now the beating of drums and the road signs as people rally the protesters together to to push back against the police.
There are motorbikes roaring. There are motorbikes ferrying the wounded to makeshift field hospitals. On this side of the square there are two. There is one inside a mosque and one inside a church and they [the motorbikes] keep on roaring past with very lifeless-looking figures on them, who have inhaled a lot of gas or [who have been] hurt by flesh wounds.
[Mohamed Mahmoud] is a scene of complete devastation on the ground; there's rubble everywhere, debris, many, many injured and bloody people propped up against the shuttered shops on the side of the road, charred vehicle remains and improvised metal barricades scattered across the street.
There's a good thousand or so [people] in this street and several thousand more in the square. Tahrir Square itself is quite peaceful. Down Mohamed Mahmoud though, probably 50-75m ahead of me is the frontline of the police. They periodically send a volley of tear gas towards us and over the top of our heads, and then also fire these birdshot pellet cartidges, often aimed at head height. They seem to have a tactic of not firing for several minutes, allowing the protesters to creep forward and then sending a huge burst of tear gas over the top which scatters the crowds and allows them to pick people off easier.
The wounded are being carried to makeshift a field hospitals in Tahrir, reports Shenker. He sees two men, one bleeding from his head and one showing no sign of life.
At around two minutes into the first dispatch, Shenker says he is being pushed back about 20 or 30 metres by "another huge round of tear gas", which he says "feels very different" from and "a lot stronger" than the gas used earlier in the year. Later, he returns to the Mohamed Mahmoud street where the clouds of tear gas are "incredibly strong".
"I'm going to have to fall back because it's really burning people's skin here and really burning their eyes. There are lots of people around me here who are collapsing and are being carried away from the gas and towards the makeshift hospitals."
Shenker describes seeing "rows and rows" of riot police and protesters hurling molotov cocktails and stones towards them. After the repeated volleys of tear gas, he says, many of the protesters appear to be imbued with a mixture of courage and panic.
To the sound of chants calling for the downfall of military rule, Shenker concludes:
"It's a very very intense scene here. The fighting is ongoing and it's showing no sign of letting up. Certainly the protesters around me- whatever happens at the level of high politics today- are showing no sign whatsoever of backing down. This battle is going to rage long into the day and I'm sure into the night as well."
• A spokesman for the military authorities has said the victims of the violence were "thugs" rather than peaceful protesters. A SCAF general visited Tahrir Square and insisted the council respected the protesters' right to peaceful protest, the New York Times reported.
• Foreign secretary William Hague has refused to call for Egypt's Scaf authorities to step down now, saying it was important that they oversaw the elections and then transfered power "as quickly as possible" to civilian rule. Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Hague said the violence was "of great concern", but that Britain would not be taking sides. _________________ Minds are like parachutes.
They only function when open.
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The Egyptian cabinet has tendered its resignation to the country's ruling
military council. There is confusion as to whether the Supreme Council of
Armed Forces has accepted.
The Guardian reports:
The crowds in Tahrir Square – who are calling for the downfall of the
ruling generals, not a simple personnel change amongst the political
leaders operating on their behalf – seem unmoved by the development
and as the evening wears on, numbers are still swelling.
"I don't think this crowd cares at all about the government," said Khalid
Abdalla, an actor and activist who has been demonstrating in Tahrir. "This
is about a battle on the streets in which people are being killed."
The sentiment that this is far too little, far too late, is one shared by most
in the square. If Scaf does believe that Sharaf's dismissal will solve this
rapidly-escalating crisis then it appears to have severely misjudged the
feeling on the street; it appears the only way that a change of government
will calm the unrest is if it is accompanied by the departure of Scaf from
_________________ Minds are like parachutes.
They only function when open.
Low blood pressure! - according to hospital records.
The cover-up of the true death toll is going to plan.
Another man at the morgue told Ahram Online that two of his relatives were severely wounded during the clashes and that one of them, his nephew, succumbed to his injuries.
The angry man added that the report issued by the hospital stated that his nephew died of severe low blood pressure although it was clear to a naked eye that he had sustained a bullet shot to the neck.
The man also told Ahram Online that the morgue has so far refused to perform forensic check-ups on the dead bodies, and that staff had told him that a hospital report which were based on surface-examinations of corpses
However, the man added that the families of the victims would refuse to leave the morgue unless proper autopsies that establish beyond reasonable doubt the real cause of death were performed.
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