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PookztA

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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject: 9/11 & Free Energy |
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Dear Fellow 9/11 Truth Supporter,
My name is Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez, and I am a medical student. Throughout my rigorous undergraduate science and medical science coursework, I have had the privilege of receiving extensive training in the process of scientific analysis and evidence-based thinking.
I am writing to you today not only as a medical student, but also as a concerned American citizen, to ask for your help with something very important.
Have you heard of Dr. Judy Wood? Did you know she has been researching 9/11 since 2001 and has already filed several law suits against NIST’s contractors for science fraud, and legal requests that NIST’s fraudulent data gets reexamined? Dr. Judy Wood has received more than one threat due to the research she has done and the evidence she has gathered, and one of her students was also murdered in 2006. Surprisingly, Dr. Judy Wood is the only 9/11 researcher who has submitted evidence to the courts in pursuit of the truth.
I. Dr. Judy Wood filed several legal cases against NIST’s contractors in 2007, some of which are military / defense / weapons organizations. The filings in these legal cases included Requests For Corrections (RFC) based on the Data Quality Act, and Qui Tam whistle-blower cases. One of her legal cases made it all the way to the Supreme Court in October of 2009. She has been actively pursuing 9/11 Truth with her lawyer, despite the lack of support she has received from Dr. Steven Jones and other members of the 9/11 Truth community. The legal documents from her court cases can be viewed at the following links:
1. http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/NIST_RFC.html
2. http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/Qui_Tam_Wood.shtml
II. Dr. Judy Wood has collected an overwhelming amount of evidence which suggests that a Directed Energy Weapon of some kind was used to powderize (‘dustify’) the primary steel and concrete portions of the WTC buildings, while burning and bending aluminum, yet leaving paper and many other materials unharmed. These characteristics are matched by those of "The Hutchison Effect", and are the result of "field effects" and energy interference. John Hutchison has filed an affidavit in Dr. Wood's court case, to legally testify to the numerous similarities between The Hutchison Effect and the 9/11 attacks.
III. Dr. Judy Wood received her B.S. (Civil Engineering, 1981) (Structural Engineering), M.S. (Engineering Mechanics (Applied Physics), 1983), and Ph.D. (Materials Engineering Science, 1992) from the Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University in Blacksburg, Virginia. Her dissertation involved the development of an experimental method to measure thermal stresses in bi-material joints. She has taught courses including: Experimental Stress Analysis, Engineering Mechanics, Mechanics of Materials (Strength of Materials), Strength of Materials Testing.
1. Dr. Judy Wood, Ph.D - 'The New Hiroshima' Presentation (Part 1): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1JFCpFd6CA
2. Dr. Judy Wood’s evidence-packed website: http://www.drjudywood.com
3. A very important, related website: http://www.checktheevidence.com
IV. Here are some very important video documentaries discussing the reality of The Hutchison Effect and other suppressed technologies, such as Cold Fusion, Anti-Gravity, and Military Energy Weapon Technology, which are related to 9/11:
1. John Hutchison & The Hutchison Effect (Documentary | 68mins): http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5866006842090712676
2. Heavy Watergate: The Cold Fusion Cover Up (Documentary | 45mins): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6562030534380820378
3. Boyd Bushman, a Senior Scientist of Lockheed Martin, on The Hutchison Effect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ZKTA7nx8U
4. Boyd Bushman, a Senior Scientist of Lockheed Martin, on Anti-Gravity Technology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeNesaRUoJo
5. Colonel Tom Bearden on Military Energy Weapon Technology (1985) similar to The Hutchison Effect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MovpYUD7fTY
V. It is important to consider the fact that Dr. Wood has been putting forth legal efforts, in addition to scientific efforts, to pursue 9/11 Truth, yet Dr. Jones has not even submitted his nano-thermite evidence to NIST, nor to the courts. Dr. Judy Wood was once a highly involved member of Dr. Steven Jones’s group, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, but Dr. Jones suddenly expelled her from the group long ago, simply because he disagreed with her conclusion that some form of Directed Energy Weapon was used to destroy the World Trade Center buildings. They both should be working together, but instead, Dr. Jones speaks negatively of Dr. Wood because he disagrees with her conclusions, even though her conclusions are strongly supported by scientific evidence. Since Dr. Wood’s conclusions are based on an enormous amount of scientific evidence, it is important that we examine this evidence for ourselves as well.
VI. After reviewing this evidence, it seems very possible to me that Dr. Jones is solely focusing on the nano-thermite theory in order to mislead the 9/11 Truth Movement, to prevent us from finding out the true criminals behind 9/11, and the true cause of 9/11, which is related to Cold Fusion, Free Energy, and Energy Weapon Technology. Yes, the nano-thermite theory does account for some of the evidence, but it most certainly does not account for all of it.
"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." - Vladimir Lenin
VII. Please review the following evidence regarding Dr. Steven Jones, so that you can become familiar with all of the evidence that has led myself, and many others, to conclude that Dr. Steven Jones is purposely misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement. First he interfered with the Cold Fusion / Free Energy movement, and now it seems he is interfering with the 9/11 Truth Movement. Please review these links thoroughly, and with an open-mind, before drawing any conclusions:
1. ‘Hoax exposes incompetence or worse at a Bentham Open Access journal’: http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2009/06/hoax-exposes-incompetence-or-worse-at.html
2. ‘Bentham Open editor-in-chief resigns after fake paper is accepted for publication’: http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2009/06/bentham-editors-resign.html
3. ‘A Peer-review of Dr. Jones’s Research’: http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=trouble_with_jones
4. ‘Steven Jones, Cold Fusion, & the Free Energy cover up’: http://drjudywood.com/articles/JJ/JJ7.html
5. ‘Steven Jones helped cover up Cold Fusion, and now 9/11 Truth’: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lASyX1SP2UM
6. ‘The Scientific Method Applied to the Thermite Hypothesis’: http://drjudywood.com/articles/scientific/JonesScientificMethod.html
7. ‘Steven Jones' Contributions to Science, Humanity and the Planet’: http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/cc/CB.html
8. ‘WTC Molten Metal: Fact or Fiction?’: http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=91&Itemid=60
9. ‘Thermite and Glowing Liquid Aluminum’: http://drjudywood.com/articles/why/why_indeed.html#Thermite
10. ‘Steven Jones and the WTC “Spire” video’ (2min 35sec): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNlpevwG8aQ
11. ‘No Thermite Used on 9/11’ by Andrew Johnson: http://911thermitefree.blogspot.com/
VIII. Here are some important questions to ask ourselves when comparing the conclusions of Dr. Steve Jones and Dr. Judy Wood:
• How come steel and concrete were pulverized, aluminum had electrical burns, but paper was unharmed? Nano-thermite and heat do not selectively damage certain materials, so how come thousands and thousands of paper sheets were completely unharmed?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come there are many reports of power outages and electrical failures in the areas surrounding ground zero during the attacks?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, where is all the molten steel? Thousands of pictures, yet not a single one shows large quantities of molten steel?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come the resulting steel and concrete dust clouds were not hot enough to burn the people it coated nor to set adjacent buildings on fire?
• If thermite alone caused the ‘collapses’, how come there was significant magnetosphere readings in Alaska at the very same time of the 9/11 attacks?
• Why was the Alaskan magnetosphere normal until immediately before and during the 9/11 attacks, when there was suddenly a huge surge in electromagnetic activity?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come countless vehicles located several blocks away from ground zero experienced metal warping and electricity-like burns and holes during the attacks, even though they were not exposed to thermite?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come countless vehicles located several blocks away from ground zero were flipped upside down or on their side?
• How come Dr. Wood has already filed several legal cases against suspected 9/11-involved defense and weapons companies and NIST, yet Dr. Jones has not?
• How come Dr. Wood has already been taking legal steps towards demanding a new 9/11 investigation, yet Dr. Jones does not support her legal efforts?
• How come Dr. Jones has not officially filed or shared his nano-thermite evidence with Congress, NIST, or any official governmental body? Why the delay?
• Why is Dr. Jones just now claiming to be “pursuing a new 9/11 investigation” when Dr. Judy Wood has already filed many legal cases to pursue such an investigation, one which made it to the Supreme Court?
• Why isn’t Dr. Jones and his affiliates supporting Dr. Judy Wood’s legal efforts to pursue 9/11 Truth, regardless of whether or not they agree on a theory?
• Why did Dr. Jones ban Dr. Wood from his ‘Scholars for 9/11 Truth’ group just because they had different conclusions about what destroyed the towers?
• Shouldn’t we all be supporting the 9/11 investigation that Dr. Judy Wood has already demanded with her legal cases, even if we do not agree with her conclusions?
• Why was I removed from the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth petition simply for asking Richard Gage to examine the research of Dr. Judy Wood?
• I have donated over $100 to AE911Truth, so why was I silently removed from the petition simply for bringing up Dr. Judy Wood to Richard Gage?
• Why did United States Army Major Doug Rokke spontaneously contact me to try and convince me to stop talking about Dr. Judy Wood and Energy Weapons?
IX. If you would like to personally email Dr. Judy Wood to discuss this matter further and possibly collaborate with her to more effectively bring out the truth regarding 9/11, her email address is available on the top of her website. (Dr. Wood has been swamped with emails lately, so there might be some delay in her reply.)
X. Also, I should let you know that I recently messaged Richard Gage and AE911Truth to ask him if he knew about Dr. Judy Wood, and as a result, I have been removed from the Petition Signers list on AE911Truth.org, despite the fact that I have donated over $100 dollars to Richard Gage and his organization over the past several months. As of the morning of March 4th, my name was removed from the AE911Truth petition, so it appears that I have been removed from the petition simply for asking about Dr. Judy Wood. This is very concerning, because I have not done anything wrong by asking Richard Gage to talk to Dr. Judy Wood and consider her research, yet AE911Truth.org has removed me from their petition simply for asking about her once in a private email. In addition, Richard Gage has never replied to any of my emails over the past several months, not even one of them, but Dr. Judy Wood has responded to several of my emails in just the last week. Oddly enough, Dr. Wood predicted that Richard Gage and Dr. Jones would ‘blacklist’ me for mentioning her, and she was right.
XI. Also, Major Doug Rokke from the U.S. Army contacted me recently and is trying to convince me that only nano-thermite or other explosives were used on 9/11, but NOT energy weapons. He refuses to acknowledge the existence of highly-advanced Energy Weapon Technology, other than lasers, that are possessed by the military-industrial complex. He does not want to meet with me in public, but insists that I come meet him at his private dwelling just outside of Urbana-Champaign. He has contacted me because I have recently been spreading information about Dr. Wood, and he insists that we meet in “private” so he can “show me something” related to proving that nano-thermite or other explosives were used on the WTC buildings, but not energy weapons. I’m not going to meet with him, because I asked Dr. Wood about him and apparently he is trying to cover up her work. Major Doug Rokke attended one of Dr. Judy Wood’s “New Hiroshima” presentations, and he sat in the front rows and repeatedly attempted to disrupt her, interrupt her, and yell unprofessional statements throughout her lecture to try and discredit her research. This is one reason I am not meeting with him. Another reason I am not meeting with him is because I recently contacted one of my Deans that I trust, and she said that Major Doug Rokke was fired from the University of Illinois a long time ago for claiming he was a professor, when in fact he is not. Apparently he has a long history of lies and deceit, so my Dean strongly suggested that I do not meet with him, and she is already making some calls about him given this recent information.
XII. Lastly, I recently tried to add Dr. Judy Wood's name to the list of 9/11 researchers on the ‘9/11 Truth Movement’ Wikipedia page, but I was censored for simply trying to add her name, and when I tried to appeal the decision, a small group of moderators controlled the discussion and told me to stop appealing it or my account would be locked. According to Wikipedia policy, deletion-appeal discussions are to remain open for public comment and review for 5-7 days before a final decision is made, but my appeal was given a final decision by a small group of rude admins within 12 hours of the onset of my appeal, and the discussion was prematurely closed. After some research, I realized this was a violation of Wikipedia's policy, so I appealed it again, and my account was locked as a result, so that I could not contribute to any more Wikipedia pages or start any more discussions. Before my account got locked, I was also censored by the same small group of admins for trying to create a Wikipedia page in honor of Dr. Judy Wood's selfless 9/11 research and legal efforts, just like I have been censored by countless other 9/11 "Truth" organizations and forums all over the world simply for mentioning Dr. Judy Wood. These organizations are corrupt and are censoring information about Dr. Judy Wood, because they are not seeking the truth, and this small group of Wikipedia admins seem to be a part of this censorship. You can read all the details and see actual screen shots of my Wikipedia incident here: http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=283&Itemid=60
XIII. To view more informative videos on the subjects mentioned in this outline, please visit my YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/pookzta
I strongly support the 9/11 Truth Movement as a whole and I definitely think we all need to work together to share ideas and information, so I truly hope that you will consider collaborating with Dr. Judy Wood in addition to Dr. Steven Jones, so we can all work together to bring about real 9/11 truth and justice. Even if Dr. Wood’s conclusions do not resonate with you, we are all still pursuing truth and justice regarding 9/11, and therefore we need to work together. It is very concerning to me that Dr. Jones has chosen to outcast Dr. Wood simply because he does not agree with her conclusions, when he should be supporting her many legal cases. If Dr. Jones is indeed misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement, he needs to be exposed so that this movement can continue to make progress and move forward.
Please let me know how what you think about all this.
Thank you for your time, consideration, and help,
-Abe
Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez
M1 Medical Student
B.S. Biology / Neurobiology
 _________________ Abrahm
Mindoutpsyde.com
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Big Boss

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Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| First, "theSaiGirl" and her "no-planer" theory and now your apparent defense of Mrs. Nutso (or "controlled" nutso) herself, Judy Wood. She is a fake and does absolutely nothing for the movement but drive it into the ground. Either you are unaware of that, or the alternative.........Steven Jones? you're on the money and BreakForNews has done analysis on Both Judy Wood and Prof. Jones. and conclude they are both working for the opposition if not completely dumb. |
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PookztA

Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 16 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Big Boss wrote: | | First, "theSaiGirl" and her "no-planer" theory and now your apparent defense of Mrs. Nutso (or "controlled" nutso) herself, Judy Wood. She is a fake and does absolutely nothing for the movement but drive it into the ground. Either you are unaware of that, or the alternative.........Steven Jones? you're on the money and BreakForNews has done analysis on Both Judy Wood and Prof. Jones. and conclude they are both working for the opposition if not completely dumb. |
I respectfully disagree BigBoss. I am a biologist and a medical student, so I do not support any other scientist without first examining their evidence for myself. In the case of Dr. Wood, her evidence is publicly available for analysis and scrutiny by anyone that views her website, so after reviewing the evidence thoroughly, I realized that she has struck a bullseye.
There is no need to criticize Dr. Wood. If you have any concerns about some of the evidence she has gathered, feel free to express your concerns about that data. Attacking a scientist and researcher by calling her names and implying that she is "crazy", contributes nothing to what could be a mature and productive discussion.
I strongly encourage you to closely examine the evidence in my outline above, or check out the evidence Dr. Wood has gathered for yourself, at http://www.drjudywood.com.
Dr. Judy Wood's conclusions have not been disproven by ANY scientist in the world, even though her evidence and conclusions can be viewed by anyone and everyone at her website.
Furthermore, Dr. Judy Wood is the ONLY 9/11 researcher who has filed evidence in a court of law in pursuit of truth and justice regarding 9/11. No other researcher has done this, including Dr. Jones.
You are entitled to your opinion, but I respectfully disagree with you.
Please discuss the evidence, not your personal complaints about Dr. Judy Wood.
Thank you,
-Abe _________________ Abrahm
Mindoutpsyde.com
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Big Boss

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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 1:48 am Post subject: |
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How about this lol, you figure out why I would have ANY "personal attacks" on Wood and then I'll cease. Examine the evidence?, you're on the money and indeed, I agree. In that case, how many of BFN's audios have you listened to concerning 9/11 truth and/or the "controlled demolition of the 9/11 movement"?
In order to understand my angle, you have to study the evidence that is presented within the analysis Dunne and others here have done. Judy Wood has done nothing substantial for the movement as far as I can see. |
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PookztA

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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| Big Boss wrote: |
In order to understand my angle, you have to study the evidence that is presented within the analysis Dunne and others here have done. Judy Wood has done nothing substantial for the movement as far as I can see. |
Like I said, I am a scientist, a biologist to be specific, and a medical student, so I am highly trained in the process of scientific analysis of evidence. I have thoroughly investigated Dr. Wood's conclusions, and the evidence she has based those conclusions on, and I fully support them.
If there is a data point or a specific part of Dr. Wood's conclusions that you disagree with, feel free to bring that data forth and tell me why you think she is wrong about something.
Furthermore, court cases that are not evidence-based cannot get appealed all the way to the Supreme Court, so you saying that Dr. Wood has done very little for 9/11 Truth is baffling to me. No one else, including Dr. Jones, has filed evidence in a court of law in an attempt to bring out the truth, so right there, we see that Dr. Wood has done more than most when it comes to pursuing the truth. Furthermore, one of her Qui-Tam whistleblower cases made it to the SUPREME COURT in October of 2009, which is absolutely phenomenal considering how "wild" some consider her conclusions to be.
Her evidence is scientific sound, her conclusions are scientifically sound, and there is not a single scientist on this planet that has been able to disprove her. If someone in this forum can disprove even some of her conclusions or the evidence that they are based on, I encourage them to bring forth their arguments and concerns so that we can continue having a productive discussion.
Until then, this seems to be more of a "finger pointing" game, where you say "this guy disproved her, so she is wrong", yet you won't even bring up one specific example of Dr. Wood being proven wrong. Like I said, Dr. Wood has not been proven wrong by anyone in this world, and her conclusions and the evidence which those conclusions are based on are available for public analysis, critique, and scrutiny, at http://www.drjudywood.com.
Please let me know if there are specific data points or aspects of her conclusions which you or someone you know think are incorrect.
Thank you,
-Abe
Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez
M1 Medical Student
B.S. Biology / Neurobiology _________________ Abrahm
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Big Boss

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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Ok....Sibel Edmonds (oh my, Wood even supports her, all of these CIA rats sleep with one another and Sibel in case you aren't wondering, is a fake) has also "went to court" on behalf of 9/11 "truth". Bringing cases to court in such a system that is so easily dominated by the ruling class means nothing, so that cannot be used as a key to her "helping the movement" What has Wood done for the movement as a whole? Yes, for the last 9 years we've been concentrating on space beams, nanothermite, no planes, shape cutting charges, Atta the cokehead, Bin Laden, etc.
Wood has her theory and I believe Dunne did a very interesting analysis highlighting a shortcoming in her theory of the towers destruction by this so called star wars weapon, not that I do not believe such weaponry exists in some shape or form, but it is obvious you haven't invested much time in the audio analysis by Dunne.
I suppose if we concentrate on the physical evidence as to the cause of the collapse, I would not invest much stock in a theory that simple has a weak evidential basis. I have not made any sound conclusions but there seems to be more evidence of a basic, simple approach that Dunne has presented. There are still questions I have which I have posted but I have not leaned towards Wood's theories.
I also love those websites that seem to have a "clusterfu*k" design, leading all over the damned place lol...Obviously you've joined BFN for a reason, make use of the site and study the analysis done by intelligent and credible patriots for truth. Hardly anyone here gives into the bullshit that is Wood's theory. We've been there, done that. We're past that kind of bullish theorizing and we're down to the "brass tacks".... |
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Big Boss

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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| My word lol, Wood supports a "who's who" of fakes, Killtown? Come on now lol...you haven't been on this site long enough Abe. |
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PookztA

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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Big Boss wrote: | | My word lol, Wood supports a "who's who" of fakes, Killtown? Come on now lol...you haven't been on this site long enough Abe. |
I am busy studying for finals, so I cannot continue this immature, unproductive conversation.
If you have new evidence that I am unaware of which disproves Dr. Wood, please let me know, or if you know someone that does, please tell them to share this information with me here or at my email: Abrahm@Mindoutpsyde.com.
In the mean time, no 9/11 researcher's conclusions can explain ALL the evidence observed on 9/11 except for Dr. Woods. Alaskan magnometer readings, Hurricane Erin, flipped cars up to 3/4 a mile away next to trees that still have all their leaves on, and much much more. I only mentioned a few small points of data there, but there is quite a bit more. A successful conclusion must explain all the evidence, not just some of it, and the only conclusion to do that, is Dr. Judy Woods.
Please let me know when you prove her wrong, otherwise, please help me spread this information.
Thank you for your time and consideration,
-Abe _________________ Abrahm
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Big Boss

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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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It is not a matter of proving Wood's scientific theory, but its relation to 9/11, which is suspect and does not lead anywhere. There seems (thus far) to be more promising avenues of what actually caused the buildings to come down, that is the summary of my position.
You mention "immature & unproductive" well subjectivity is key, if that is how you feel, have a ball. I actually am learning much from this exchange. You invest much into her 'theory' yet, you seem to casually disregard the incredible research done here at BFN (of which you're a member btw...) and the excellent analysis done by Dunne and other forum members. I think you should give other theories a try ultimately.
Ah, and while you're at it, Abe, you're not done yet, mind responding here:
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5816 ? |
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PookztA

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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Big Boss wrote: | It is not a matter of proving Wood's scientific theory, but its relation to 9/11, which is suspect and does not lead anywhere. There seems (thus far) to be more promising avenues of what actually caused the buildings to come down, that is the summary of my position.
You mention "immature & unproductive" well subjectivity is key, if that is how you feel, have a ball. I actually am learning much from this exchange. You invest much into her 'theory' yet, you seem to casually disregard the incredible research done here at BFN (of which you're a member btw...) and the excellent analysis done by Dunne and other forum members. I think you should give other theories a try ultimately.
Ah, and while you're at it, Abe, you're not done yet, mind responding here:
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5816 ? |
Perhaps you should try calling into Alex Jones or Dr. Deagle and asking them why they don't just have Dr. Judy Wood on their show to try and debunk her on the air? No scientist in the world has disproven her nor Mr. Hutchison, and you will most likely be hung up on for bringing up Dr. Wood's research on radio shows such as Alex Jones.
Find out for yourself like I did Oh, and while you're at it, try adding Dr. Judy Wood's name to the '9/11 Truth Movement' page on Wikipedia Weird how the ONLY 9/11 researcher EVER to file evidence in a court of law, one case which made it to the Supreme Court in October 2009, is not even mentioned ONCE on the 9/11 Truth Movement Wikipedia page, yet David Ray Griffin is not only mentioned, but has his own Wikipedia page.
The truth is out there, and I encourage everyone to search for and discover whatever is the truth for themselves. Do not take my word for it, do not take anyone's word for it, just look at ALL the evidence you can, and then make up your own mind. Deciding for yourself is extremely important.
Cheers,
-Abe _________________ Abrahm
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bri

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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| Judy Wood linked to Sibel and Killtown? That just makes way too much sense. This is getting way too easy. Epic CIA Fake fail. |
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PookztA

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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| bri wrote: | | Judy Wood linked to Sibel and Killtown? That just makes way too much sense. This is getting way too easy. Epic CIA Fake fail. |
LOL. Please stick to the evidence. If you can disprove the evidence Dr. Wood has gathered, please share your findings with me so I can take them into consideration. Until then, speculation, name-calling, and false accusations will not have much of an impact on my evidence-based opinions.
Cheers,
-Abe _________________ Abrahm
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Big Boss

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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Well Abe, the problem is that you are attempting to direct us in an area that is filled with poison so to speak. Let us grant for the sake of this discussion that Wood's research proves to be true, or rather, that Directed Energy Weapons are legitimate. Alright, there are simply not much in terms of evidence that they were used in 9/11. There seems to be lacking some sort of signatures of such elegant weaponry in the broader 9/11 context.
When you understand the entire generality of the 9/11 attacks as far as their being carried out and covered up (by use of the perps actually BEING the "opposition") then you honestly have to tread VERY carefully. BreakForNews has extensive coverage of this issue and has dealt with the "Wood Issue" and frankly and consciously, I am truly satisfied with the verdict. Directed Energy Weapons are a "ghost town" of research. You have been given adequate responses regarding Hutchinson and Wood and you keep saying at the end "seek yourselves, look/study at her research, etc" but we already have lol.
You seem to be especially interested in that she seems to be the only person in the 9/11 Truth Comm. to bring a case to court......ok? Daniel Ellsberg "leaked" the Pent. Papers, and? He's suspect given his background and who he's been "in bed" with, and I believe Wood is also suspect. Court Cases do nothing ultimately to show they're on the "good side" You need a strong convincing context. I mean the feeling I get when visiting Wood's site is that its "pretty wacky stuff" and I believe I am supposed to feel that way basically. She has TONS of links EVERYWHERE, I find that most of the fakes sites' almost have exactly the same layout as well, confusing and confounding. Where do we begin? Would it harm you to basically and at least consider Wood's research (as far as as causal demolition of the twin towers) and not claim it as dogma as to what really happened on 9/11? I think you and I can definitely do that and move on to stronger, more plausible research, as it is done here at BreakForNews. I mean ultimately, why did you even join BFN? What do you intend to gain from this site or Dunne's/Others research here? |
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PookztA

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Funny how you agree with me that we all should think for ourselves, yet you keep referring to the readers of this forum as "We", as if you somehow speak for them, lol.
Again, more nonsense accusations that "Wood is fake", or that "Wood is in bed with those who did 9/11", etc. etc. etc.
Sad how alls I ask is that you discuss what evidence and/or conclusions of Dr. Wood you find to be incorrect, and to provide evidence to back up any accusations or concerns you might have. Sadly, after many requests, you still are here typing large paragraphs about how "this forum has already decided" and how "Dr. Wood is a fake", yet you can't even devote one small sentence to discussing the evidence and conclusions of hers which you feel are incorrect.
As I stated in the Hutchison Effect thread, I do not have time to speculate with you nor to entertain the rumors you are spreading. If you want to have a scientific discussion about the scientific evidence and conclusions presented by Dr. Judy Wood, please let me know.
Thanks,
-Abe
Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez
M2 Medical Student
B.S. Biology / Neurobiology _________________ Abrahm
Mindoutpsyde.com
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I find it funny how you are simply and quite easily misunderstanding me here as well. Yes, based on my observation (obviously you haven't seemed to observe much here at BFN in terms of research) the majority of the forum members I've taken part in such discussions with do agree with me and I with them as well as Fintan Dunne. This does not mean every BFN forum member, that is quite obvious.
Yes, I am asking you to think for yourself or keep an open mind, but we both know that that has consequences, sometimes, good, sometimes negative or bad. In the case of 9/11, I think that having a genuine open mind, steering clear of disinfo, learning what it is, etc will or should most definitely lead you to the truthful conclusion that the 9/11 movement itself is a Govt. run Op. You constantly refer me and others to check out Wood's research and you are in no way leaving room for other, more plausible theories.
It is not "sad" I simple find Wood's findings to be an empty road on the way to 9/11 truth, thats all and I am not the only one who feels as such. If Wood has been "sleeping around" with other fakes or questionable 9/11 truth personalities, is it NOT logical to ask the same of her? Is that far fetched to think or believe lol? BreakForNews has done an incredible expose of the 9/11 Fakes, my god, have you even read that thoroughly? I get the feeling you are cherry picking your argumentation. I have spent quite a long time looking at evidence, yet I am NOT a researcher and yet, and yet, I easily dismissed Wood's work after careful study. I personally am not convinced that Directed Energy Weapons were used on 9/11. Am I open to the possibility I could be wrong on that, certaintly, I am simply for certain than not, that they were used as a primary cause for bringing the towers down.
Please do tell, what "rumors" am I spreading here? I honestly believe you have not nor do you care to check out what BFN as to offer. Again, and I believe for the 3rd time, why did you join BFN Abe? Wood's theory is attractive and elegant, but it simply does not hold muster for me and others indeed DO agree with me on that conclusion. Allow me to ask another important question, what do you think concerning the sabotaging for the 9/11 movement or its creation by the very perps. who actualized and caused the attacks? What are your thoughts. I think its crucial to build bridges of truth first. What CAN we both agree on first? |
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