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Fintan
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:01 pm    Post subject: Zerohedge a CIA Fake? Reply with quote

This is related to Wikileaks
and Truthseeker.co.uk
issues in this thread.

While pondering the legitimacy of Wikileaks
and figuring what game TruthSeeker.co.uk
is playing, consider this:

Quote:
After much speculation that it was nothing but a red herring, Wikileaks,
which has recently gotten some substantial press coverage on both sides,
has finally released a classified video leaked by "a number of military
whistleblowers" which depicts "the indiscriminate slaying of over a dozen
people in the Iraqi suburb of New Baghdad -- including two Reuters news
staff."

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/wikileaks-releases-video

That hyperlink in the text above takes you to thetruthseeker.co.uk.

The text itself is from the hot financial site: http://www.zerohedge.com

So to sum up, Tyler Durden of Zerohedge announces the Wikileaks video
and at the same time he links to thetruthseeker.co.uk, a CIA Fake site
which says that Wikileaks is a CIA disinfo outfit.

I've had my skeptical eye on Zerohedge from the get go, even
though I've featured their financial news in the homepage news.
I became concerned because, the site does merge a noticeable
amount of the usual fake 'conspiracy' material into it's regular
financial stuff.

Like this one, to pick a random example:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/us-counterterrorism-officials-insisted-crotch-bomber-be-let-country

I also referred to them in a post about a 9/11 Deja Vu audio
referencing how they let AIG's Gary Gorton off the hook:

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Source
Note: Although this article is on ZeroHedge,
you should consider the following comments to the article:

Comment: Tyler, This is undoubtedly the low point of Zero Hedge journalism. I'd have expected Marla to catch you on this. Gary Gorton was THE main advisor to AIG on their CDS activities. He pitched the board on the apparent safety of writing insurance of hundreds of bond/CDO issuances. The fact that his reputation is still intact is a fucking shame. In the old days, he would have been tarred and feathered. It's amazing that he has the balls to write a fucking paper on the messes he recommended. You can redeem yourself by doing some digging into his involvement with AIG. Really disappointed.

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=63704#63704


I'll certainly be still keeping my eye on them after this.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero Hedge is praised by a loy of the financial sources I follow..........

what a possible letdown........
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Letdown Indeed.

To show the level of disconnect between a supposedly leading-edge
financial site and it's casual link to TheTruthseeker, here's an article
from the current homepage of TheTruthseeker:

Quote:
Illuminati Who's Who Linked to Raelians
April 5, 2010
http://www.henrymakow.com/illuminati_linked_to_raelians.html


Here's a Banner Ad on TheTruthseeker:

Quote:

The Obama Deception:
Alex Jones’s hard-hitting film completely destroys the myth that
Barack Obama is working for the best interests of the American people...


Here's another homepage banner ad:

Quote:

Regular news updates on the latest U.F.O. sightings from the
Silent Circle and crop circle researcher Charles Mallet


Here's another homepage banner ad:

Quote:

Victor Thorn’s groundbreaking book on Israel’s
central role in the 9/11 terror attacks


Here's their list of columnists, which has entries
that are right out of our list of CIA Fakes:

Quote:
Columnists
• Andrew Winkler
• Charley Reese
• Christopher Bollyn
• Craig Murray
• Dahr Jamail
• Gilad Atzmon
• Greg Szymanski
• Israel Shamir
• John Kaminski
• John Pilger
• Kevin Boyle
• Kurt Nimmo
• Mike James
• Mike Whitney
• Paul A. Drockton
• Paul Joseph Watson
• Rigorous Intuition
• Riverbend
• Rixon Stewart
• Robert Fisk
• Smoking Mirrors
• T Stokes
• Uri Avnery
• Vigilant Citizen
• Wayne Madsen
• Xymphora

P.S. Truthseeker just lift articles from people like Robert Fisk,
John Pilger etc. and reprint them, calling them 'columnists.'
The likes of Fisk and Pilger pad out the obvious Fakes.
Cute.


Ok, you get the picture.

So leave aside that we know Truthseeker is a Rat's Nest of Fakes.

Imagine you are a 'reputable'(?), edgy financial website.

Imagine you are Tyler Durden, the leading light of Zerohedge.
Financially-savvy, plugged in, finger on the pulse.

You wouldn't touch a 'tinfoil' site like Truthseeker
with a frikkin' forty foot pole!!!.

Just linking to it would shred your cred into confetti.

But he does.

It don't add up, folks.

It just don't add up.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I noticed on one of the audios you said that maybe Goldman Sachs was taking all the heat for all of the wrongdoings on Wall Street...........

Kind of like the neocons and Bush taking the fall..........

I always noticed ZeroHedge sure took their shots at Goldman Sachs at every opportunity possible.............
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

You might like to factor this into the questions about Zerohedge.

The graphic above is an Infowars reprint of a Zerohedge story.

It's not the first time Alex Jones has re-run Zerohedge material.

Google lots more here: site:infowars.com zerohedge

By the way, the story in the above graphic is based on a
news report on Debkafile. Don't even get me started on
how fake Debka is............

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZHedge also has a new blog/twitter post we linked to.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also link to the Daily Telegraph when they carry important
news that's not readily available anywhere else. Despite the
Telegraph running Wikileaks

Maybe I could rename BreakForNews to Ostrich .com
and not post any news from any website about which
we have doubts.

Not every journalist contributing to for a suspect website
is a paid agent of the NWO. Disinfo would stick out like a
sore thumb if that was the case.

Absolutism, don'cha just love it!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree 100% and that would be tinfoil hat thinking there if I were to believe it myself. I would never subscribe to such an irrational view such as that and perhaps my post came off a bit wrong, I mean where the hell would we get ANY kind of information if that view were true lol?

I think my post was meant to say what you expressed, namely that even though these guys/sites are fakes in some way, wittingly or unwittingly, they still provide accurate news often, especially the alternative news many of us have come to rely on. Apologies if you saw my post as otherwise bud (Fintan) lol.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.............still hoping theres no misunderstanding lol..?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah - my bad dude.
Got wires crossed.

Got so many messages down the years saying
if X Y or Z are fakes how come you are linking to their
stories? Or how come you link to mainstream stories....

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where the hell would we get ANY kind of
information if that view were true lol?


Exactly lol

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well at least this exchange clarifies things for readers.

(Hi readers!!) Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problemo Fintan and thanks so much for clearing that up. I definitely hear what you're saying and I've seen it with my own two eyes what happens when people use such nonsense. Its simple and the quote says it all and can be used to ward off CIA fake logic lol. With that kind of mentality, we would NEVER learn ANYTHING. Onward and upward good friend Wink.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:23 am    Post subject: zero credibility or anonymous virtue? Reply with quote

From a post by a buddy of mine at another site.

Ivars wrote:


This is one very good and workable idea to bring 3rd party to power in the USA (of couse, in combination with economic meltdown in early 2012 caused by deficits(governments) , monetarization of debt (FED), inflation, especially food) export ( via export of reserve currency USD) and resulting instability in oil producing countries and Oil price rise: ( from http://www.zerohedge.com):

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Hacker group anonymous brings peaceful revolution

The world's most (in)famous hacker group - Anonymous - known for effectively shutting down their hacking nemesis security firm (with clients such as Morgan Stanley and, unfortunately for them, Bank of America)- HBGary, advocating the cause of Wikileaks, and the threat made by one of its members that evidence of fraud by Bank of America will be released on Monday, has just launched communication #1 in its Operation "Empire State Rebellion." The goal - engage in "a relentless campaign of non-violent, peaceful, civil disobedience" until Ben Bernanke steps down and the "Primary Dealers within the Federal Reserve banking system be broken up and held accountable for rigging markets and destroying the global economy effective immediately."

The Anonymous manifesto:

* We are a decentralized non-violent resistance movement, which seeks to restore the rule of law and fight back against the organized criminal class.
* One-tenth of one percent of the population has consolidated wealth in unprecedented fashion and launched an all-out economic war against 99.9% of the population.
* We are not affiliated with either wing of the two-party oligarchy. We seek an end to the corrupted two-party system by ending the campaign finance and lobbying racket.
* Above all, we aim to break up the global banking cartel centered at the Federal Reserve, International Monetary Fund, Bank of International Settlement and World Bank.
* We demand that the primary dealers within the Federal Reserve banking system be broken up and held accountable for rigging markets and destroying the global economy, effective immediately.
* As a first sign of good faith we demand Ben Bernanke step down as Federal Reserve chairman.
* Until our demands are met and a rule of law is restored, we will engage in a relentless campaign of non-violent, peaceful, civil disobedience.
* In our next communication we will announce Operation Empire State Rebellion.

Glorious Chairman Ben - our free advice to you: change your e-mail password stat...


On Monday, they will release data on Bank of America fraudulent dealings with foreclosures. Keep watching.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zerohedge has gone downhil so fast that
it's well past time I mentioned it here.


Although this site was perhaps first to call this, the
word is now out among the observant on the internet
that there's more disinfo than info on the site.

Maybe it was the relentless scare stories
about the Eurozone debt issue.....

Maybe it was the god-awful regular columnists
like Reggie Middleton.....

Maybe it was the sense of a cozy clique which
involves Max Keiser and other websites.....

Maybe it was the thinly-disguised promo articles
which were mere come-ons for paid-subscriber
financial analysis....

Maybe it was the wall-to-wall Fukushima hysteria.....

Maybe it was the lame 9/11 material and other stuff
posted by regular columnist George Washington blog...

Maybe it was all of the above - and then some.

As a pro newshound I still visit to test which way the
disinfo winds are blowing and for the best of the
comments on articles.

It's a tough job - somebody's gotta do it. Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheesh...nothing new under the sun, thats for sure. Thanks Fintan for the update.
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