Double agents of Terror

[GaryGo]

Brian Rowan: Riddle as to why MI5 were interested in Kieran Doherty
Friday, 26 February 2010

Brian Rowan: Riddle as to why MI5 were interested in Kieran Doherty
Murdered man one of us, say Real IRA
Executed: man’s naked body dumped at border in Northern Ireland
MI5 ‘made approach to Real IRA assassination victim’
Why would the security services MI5 have been interested in Kieran Doherty?

And what is meant by he was “known to police”?

These are just two of the questions that emerge from a killing that is a throwback to the past.

Mr Doherty’s near-naked body was dumped at the roadside, his hands bound and he had been shot in the head.

This was an execution — the type of killing that in the past would have been used to deliver a wider warning.

So how did the police know him?

“It’s certainly in the drugs world,” one source commented.

But that would not have been the security services’ interest in this man, if indeed they were interested.

“MI5 would have had no reason or authorisation to talk to him about drugs,” a source commented.

And then you get into that world of closed doors. That comment hints at something else, but gives no other information.

Late last year, in an interview with the Derry Journal newspaper, Kieran Doherty claimed the security services had approached him.

The MI5 role in Northern Ireland is national security — their focus here the dissident republican threat.

So, if the story of the approach is true, how did they think Doherty could help?

How would he be useful in the war against the dissidents?

It may well have been about who he knew and what he knew about that dissident world.

Even before last night’s statement admitting the killing, fingers were being pointed at the Real IRA.

Martin McGuinness wanted the linked 32 County Sovereignty Movement to make a statement.

But people will remember that in its past the IRA took many people down lonely roads and ended their lives there.

All of what the dissidents are doing comes from an IRA book.

This latest shooting, the mortar bomb at Keady, the car bomb outside the courthouse in Newry, the booby-trap device under Peadar Heffron’s car — none of it is new.

Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/brian-rowan-riddle-as-to-why-mi5-were-interested-in-kieran-doherty-14700175.html#ixzz0gwFCiUFQ

Monday, 1 March 2010 15:03
The funeral of Kieran Doherty,who who was murdered by the Real IRA last Wednesday night, has taken place in Derry.

Kieran Doherty's body was found on the Braehead Road on the outskirts of Derry city with gunshot wounds to the head.

Up to 500 mourners attended his funeral mass at Long Tower in Derry this morning.

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Last Thursday night, the Real IRA claimed responsibility for the 31-year-old's murder. In a statement, it said that that Kieran Doherty had been a senior member of its organisation.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0301/dohertyk.html

MI5 XMAS CARD TO RIRA VICTIM
Daily Mirror, The; London (UK), Feb 27, 2010 | by JILLY BEATTIE
MURDERED dad Kieran Doherty was being enticed to tout by MI5 with gifts for his baby and an iPod, the Daily Mirror can reveal.

Doherty was one of a number of senior dissidents targeted by the British secret service in their latest recruitment drive against terror in Northern Ireland.

The 31-year-old, a senior member of the Real IRA, told his family he was disgusted when he was approached by a "Brit" at an airport who introduced himself as "Justin".

He later told friends, family and his solicitor that he was being harassed by MI5.
http://findarticles.com/p/news-articles/daily-mirror-the-london-uk/mi_8006/is_20100227/mi5-xmas-card-rira-victim/ai_n50268055/

[Fintan]

The RealIRA issued a statement that they had killed him.

That's good enough for me.

Yeah, MI5 were playing the usual games.
Approach him and even if he declines to inform
for them, they have sown destabilizing suspicion.

But it's well possible that he was not paying the RIRA
off with a cut from the drugs biz he was involved in,
and that's what got him killed. Also possible that
the RIRA didn't believe he had rebuffed MI5.

[GaryGo]

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[Fintan]

Real IRA
Continuity IRA
etc.

Are splinter groups determined to continue the "war".

It like wanting to continue playing the Superbowl
even after everyone has long ago gone home.

[GaryGo]

[atm]

Back off, Gary. Fintan has lived / is living through that shit.

Relax. You noticed, as a novice; Fintan is no novice.

Neither was my Father, nor my Mother or their families.

My families.

We know, more or less what goes on behind and within the Mourne mountains.

Peace

atm

[atm]

Gary

when it comes to 'debating' the 'Troubles'. I should be most careful.

We have your IP.

It is that easy.

This is not a threat; it is a warning.

Be bloody careful, son

atm

[GaryGo]

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[atm]

Buachaill cúramach ann, ar dheis, nó go mbeidh mé ag seoladh mo fear is fearr thar le haghaidh comhrá agus cupán tae, má tá a fhios agat cad is ciall agam.

atm

[GaryGo]

[GaryGo]

Hundreds at Real IRA Derry murder victim rally


Several hundred people attended the rally
Several hundred people have attended a rally in Londonderry in protest at the murder of Real IRA member Kieran Doherty last week.
The body of the 31-year-old was found naked and bound on the Braehead Road on the outskirts of Londonderry.
The Real IRA said he was involved with a criminal organisation linked to the drugs trade.
His sister, Leeanne, told those attending the rally that the Real IRA could not justify his death
She said that they had to explain their actions and that her brother was being harassed by MI5.
"They took his life now they are trying to take his good name," she said.
"It is easy for them to say what they want, dead men cannot defend their lives, dead men cannot defend themselves."
Hundreds of mourners attended the funeral of the former republican prisoner in the city on Tuesday.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/foyle_and_west/8546831.stm

[Fintan]

Stepping around the private forum war here
to deal with the meat of the issue:

You tossed out a load of links there Gary, which
do not establish your assertion that:

[GaryGo]

Greetings Fintan

I was just gonna let this little thread go were atm had pointed it but since you're here - I'll start the Ball rolling by giving a little Geography lesson in an attempt to dispel a few myths and lend the matter a bit of context.

One might even call it a little reality check for the "Spectators" if you like.
I will deal with the Adams thing later. - Bit about me - now don't fall asleep. - Yet!

I traveled round Germany for a good few years including the 90’s in the former DDR which was basically a building site swarming with Brits and Paddies – it was a very unique place and a unique time – It was like a slice of the British Isles and Ireland was dropped into the vacuum left by the ddr

Basically the Germans aren’t really dying about the English so a lot of English pretended to be Irish - we called them “Plastic Paddies”
So we would have all these twats with cockney accents wanting to earn big money pretending to be Irish. I didn’t really mind because it also elevated me within the Brit & Paddy community – it was like a little con trick – but since most of the Brits wanted to come and work for me – so they could use my name over and over to “Protect” them I didn’t mind.

Another more profound “distortion” of reality within this community was
The misconception that somehow the southern Irish were directly involved in “The Troubles” because most of them were using the “republican” card on the English(Who didn't know any better) pretending they were somehow connected to the IRA and therefore not to be messed with, - which I knew was of course completely absurd.

I remember one night in a bar in Dresden seeing half a dozen English guys arriving after a long Journey from Munich – all fucking day in a steamy car in the blazing sun – and every wanker in the bar blanked them – you could hear mutters of “Tan this Tan that” – yet I was the only person in the bar and one of very few in Dresden from Northern Ireland.

I was the only guy who spoke to them and I went out of my way to do so.
One of the “plastic IRA men” who was half Gypsy from just outside Slane came up to the bar and asked me why I was talking to a “Tan”

I asked him had he ever been burned out of his house in the middle of the night. I asked him how many of his class in school had been murdered by the British Army or Shot by Loyalists or blown up or knee capped by his own side. I asked him if he had to climb walls and hedges to get home safe at night.



Ok Fintan so I have a rather cynical view of Southern Irish people talking about the Northern Ireland troubles - just thought I'd put that out there and let People reading this know your further away from the Action than most Scottish people I know.


Can we at least agree on this geography Fintan?


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