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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan wrote:
Par for the course for CIApedia, it seems.

A little more on that Pastor Manning in the video above.

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Attended Oxford Round Table at St. Antony’s College
in the University of Oxford - 16 August 2004

http://atlah.org/about/pastormanning.html


Wasn't Bill Clinton a CIA agent in Oxford?


You know Fintan, I've ran across many articles concerning that and even saved a few, just to have something later, it could be utter B.S as I haven't read it yet but was just right clicking a few articles one night. But apparently he was recruited at Oxford, that I remember reading well, or at least the implications.

I really wanted to know what the majority of you guys (while we're at this) thinks about Chip Tatum and his story, I tend to think the guy is a shark/CIA though he claims he's 'ex' and just some of the information he provides seems really interesting, or shall I say, if its bait, it is luring as hell, but I'm careful lol. He speaks a good volume of Irangate information.

Right back on point, I'd definitely love to continue to research Clinton and his possible recruitment while at Oxford.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clinton went to Oxford on a Rhodes scholarship, did he not?

If so, then he was recruited by NWO Intel criminals BEFORE he went to Oxford.

Or perhaps, more likely, he volunteered (for a life of luxury without ever having to do a single day of honest work)!

Bill's paternity also seems rather unclear. Some think his father could have been a Rockefeller.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said a ways back in this thread, this in my opinion, is a very slippery slope, before long you'll have a few thousand people who were all in on it. I base that on the loosely mentioned connections from those of the past. Pre Tricky Dick up to the present, that's a lot of freaking people.

Somewhere within all of this are a few who ( not only who knew/knows ) but planned it and carried it out via some sort of operation headed up by either of the usual intelligence apparatus, ( cia ) or rogue elements of the Military. Anyone can throw darts at the board in hopes of hitting the occasional bulls eye, here we have lots and lots of darts, too many to gain any real traction.

Wall Street has always been at the center of the board, especially as of late with the bails out's, Fannie-Freddie---sorry I'll never include Enron Laughing That's a rabbit hole for the alien abduction crowd to pump up, not me.

However, when they attacked those Towers doesn't anyone consider, EVER consider, how very close to home that really was for it to be the Street? Could that have been a simple end-run, or a smokescreen for what transpired at the CBOE? You know that commodity house in Chicago. Maybe the Street was a diversion that has swallowed YET another line of reason from the well meaning, the honest people.

Think of it this way: Back when I first joined this forum there was a member who asked me a question in regard to Canter Fitzgerald. This then member said he could never understand how so many people from one company got killed in the attack. It's strange but to this day I sometimes think about that question and how completely, totally, and absolutely INSANE it really was.

What was the real intent of the question? Laughing Glad you asked: In my own personal opinion it was one of the usual CURVE BALLS--Meaningless on the surface, yet another meaningful element of the monster abyss that anything associated with 9-11 has become, fully 90% distraction and endless rabbit holes.

A better question people/members can mull over is this one: Why after all this time, all these pages, all these words, has there NEVER--NOT ONCE been anyone WHO WAS ACTUALLY THERE on 9-11, either in the Towers or Building 7 or the Hotel, EVER stepped foot into any forum of merit to tell what they witnessed, tell what they saw?

Could it be that they know what must have really happened and are simply afraid, or is it something else? Maybe they are comfortable with that French movie doing all of the biding.

Someone always tells, always gives it up, but in this case it seems that those who may are very elusive, almost likes ghosts. I've always been curious about that!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my brother (RIP) was one of the original members of the CBOE.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow Mike that's interesting, they're going public, just filed as a matter of fact.
Notice I didn't mention the CBOT Laughing Laughing The E pushes through lots and lots of Derivitives, trillions worth of paper. I'm not sure how many members they have but the Board of Trade has some 3,500 so any suspicion in regard to 9-11 financial activity surely touches far too many people to keep any real evidence of such quiet all this time.

My opinion is that it's yet another rabbit hole, and since we are onto the financial aspects of 9-11, and since the issue of who has taken some root, I though I'd post the following.

Quote:
Who Made The AA 'Put'
Options The Days Prior To 911?
Can You Amplify On This Comment, Please?
By Walter J. Burien, Jr.


Note the author Laughing Note the source: Laughing Looks good on paper, sounds great on audio---But if one can dismiss the source, then how can one continue down this path?

I'll tack up the link: The readers can digest it as they see fit:

http://www.rense.com/general46/911.html

I'm on with much of this myself but in reality far too many options " no pun intended " have opened themselves UP via this route!

My take: No---It was but a mere handful of very close associates who pulled this off, and as they've gone on they've systematically taken care of all who have found them out via cash after agreeing to play ball, or a sudden demise through accident or other. This way people get the straightforward message, the NO BULLSHIT end of the stick. Saves time and above all, saves money.

What's a few million bucks in the grand scheme of Trillions?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Like I said a ways back in this thread, this in my opinion, is a very slippery slope, before long you'll have a few thousand people who were all in on it. I base that on the loosely mentioned connections from those of the past. Pre Tricky Dick up to the present, that's a lot of freaking people.


I think exactly the same thing,and it seems no accident all these countless name's end up confusing the shit out of anyone wanting to study it further.It feels like being lead up the garden path,turn left in to the maze, turn second right,drop done into the abyss...ok crap analogy.

It look's like everyone can point to dozens of people they feel need looking at,but then what ?.

So my uneasy question is,how can we move past possible motive to something more substantial,i mean is it conceivable some sort of paper trail of meeting's and planning took place,and was somehow noted,i think would anyone back then be that Fu**ing stupid considering what they were doing ?.

I am waiting for someone involved to be on their deathbed and with his last breath whisper 'I was part of 9/11 there is a list of name's in my will....gone.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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skinters:
Like I said a ways back in this thread, this in my opinion, is a very slippery
slope, before long you'll have a few thousand people who were all in on it.

I'm detailing the political and financial forces who are in play and
benefiting from the 9/11 event. And as we see, that's way more
extensive and historically rooted than merely: "Bush Dun It."

Yet clearly there is no way that, say, the whole CFR was involved in
operational details of 9/11. In these matters there are layers of
involvement: from peripheral support, all the way to core planning.

So, we need to first understand clearly and definitively, based on
hard-nosed evaluation: which political and financial factions were at
the heart of the thrust of events. Then we need to identify within those
groups, which specific individuals would have been aware in advance
rather than just along for the ride later.

That's not as easy as it looks, because there are bound to be many
defensive scapegoats, red herrings, cut-outs, useful idiots and stooges.

So this requires a methodical and inclusive perspective which is fully
informed on the actual US and international geopolitics of all this
- rather than on assumed, vague internet half-truth, rumor, bias and
clever dis/mis-information.

Directly involved and aware would be : political/financial players,
intellgence planners, military brass and event foot soldiers.

It's a process of analysis and elimination.

Duane posted this in the ObamaTimeline thread:

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we have

1. insiders
2. nazis
3. globalists
4. communists/socialist
5. wall street
6.CIA/ intel agencies

here's my take so far:

The insiders are old families who control wall street and who combined with Nazis after the war. they are Globalists (they want the globe for themselves)

So we have the CIA who were former Nazis fighting against communist China in Vietnam and founding Alciada to fight against the communist Russians in Afghanistan.

They then help out Russia and give China all of the US manufacturing, while we fight the the Alciada in Iraq and Afghanistan
This is to weaken the US.

The US, where they are currently staying, needs to dissolve for things to work.

Their means of doing this is by turning it communistic and allowing it to self destruct.

(the Bushes have property in South America and Clinton is eying some beach front property in Haiti)

The insiders are starting to lose some of their grip as other nations see what's going on and resist. Global warming is an example.

Other countries, ie, China and India notice that they're not "insiders" and decide to go their own way bringing others with them.

So to the insiders, names like nazi, communist, tea-bagger, are just means to their globalist ambitions?

am i close?

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=63564#63564


Those are big picture questions and
a pretty good stab at solving them.

There are more people here on BFN with the necessary skills,
reading and approach than anywhere I've seen on the net.

But if we can't get these big picture geopolitics and financials right,
we'd be sifting through the wrong piles of stones looking for the
pebbles which are the 9/11 perps.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the Bushes have property in South America


This is interesting because the word here in Europe is that South America is the new preferred destination for 'the best and the brightest self-starters'.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody is saying Bush did it, only that the numbers of people involved is growing beyond necessity to the point of being somewhat ridiculous. Further, the line of inquiry is an absolute given, no point it pounding it into oblivion. Given the tools I'm positive most all here acknowledge this even if they fail to mention it.
Nixon
Carter
Ford
Ronald R
Clinton
Junior
Now Obama-the chosen one. Laughing

So with that we add
Nazi's which must invite the Jews which is a stone throw from the Holocaust and the deniers, then it's JFK and Hollywood movies: I skipped the Hedge Fund managers, guys like Soro's not the average run of the mill million dollar players--how about the policy makers, advisers, think tankers-foreign advocates/affairs/council ---move on to the CIA and various other assets of the intelligence community-- What's my point?
Too damn many opportunities for someone to TALK.

Goldman Sachs alone has 32,000 full time employees. One company-one entity. Maybe a weak example, but an example nonetheless. When Speaking of GS one MUST MENTION Warren Buffet and then the Golf Tournament, the Air Force base, the other players, on and on and on.

Here is how bloody simple this really is:
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Warren Buffett's Goldman Sachs Investment Nets Him $3 Billion


12 months--1 year from the initial investment and the guy nets 3 billion.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/32982928

I'll spell it out: More to this story than was ever told.

On Sept 3 2008 GS closed @ $167
On Sept 28th the day Buffet's deal was announced GS closed @ $125 >>>5 billion Investment
10% on the preferred which is nice, but warrants to purchase 5 billion in common at anytime over the next 5 years from the agreed upon date of investment @ $115 per share is the REAL KICKER ( common that is ) sounds good--looks good on paper. BUT--Two months later GS closes Nov 20th to be exact @ $52 per--share---WTF HAPPENED---Why no real press on Buffets big blunder---yeah you can find some rags who MAY--MAY I SAY have mentioned it but not any of worth.

So if Buffet liked it at 115-125 surely he must have loved it at 60 or less. Now can anyone imagine him NOT loading the wagon via third party? Maybe the third party shorted the piss out of it for old Warren and his buddies, or maybe just took the other side of the trade by throwing caution to the wind and SELLING INTO THE NEWS when the deal was announced. Laughing Laughing

Call me an idiot, call me what you will but TRUST ME FOLKS---If you think Warren and his circle of friends DOESN'T know what really happened on 9-11 then you need to come out from under the ether before you suffocate.

Oh and just for arguments sake: GS closed yesterday @ $ 172
So is Warren restricted on those preferred? Does he still own those shares? What about the common? Who bought a few million or hundred million worth under 60 bucks back in late 08? Laughing Laughing

Like I said this is too easy, but then you must wonder about all of those misdirection, head fakes, ETC. In regard to the initial reports on 9-11 about the bunker, who was there, Bush, Cheney, golf Laughing Maybe all of that was real. What if those accounts were indeed true but hidden on a level that few cared to take a closer look at during all of the confusion?

Hank Greenberg: Think he knows anything?

Anyone here remember those clowns from we are change going after Buffet while yelling through their bull horns that 9-11 was an inside job?

Bill Gates anyone? Anyone!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those details are a wake up call for anybody who doesn't know
how devious the maneuvers of the market insiders truly are.

In a properly policed market, these pump-dump and shorting
scams would lead to an extended vacation stay at Club Fed.
But in a corruptly policed market, they are cash cows.

Warren's GS shares move is a red flag. But for those who
have yet to catch on to the scope of the 9/11 event, the case
needs to be made in detail and be well argued. Otherwise
it can be easily dismissed.

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Hombre:
...the line of inquiry is an absolute given,
no point it pounding it into oblivion....


May be an absolute given to you, but it's mere tinfoil rambling to
those who are not clued in, and to those who can easily dismiss
9/11 issues because our arguments are just general sweeping
assertions
- rather than specific, detailed, and case by case.

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Hombre:

Nixon
Carter
Ford
Ronald R
Clinton
Junior
Now Obama-the chosen one.....
policy makers, advisers, think tankers-foreign
advocates/affairs/council ---move on to the CIA....
the numbers of people involved is growing beyond
necessity to the point of being somewhat ridiculous
.

In the four audios, so far, I haven't said that ANY of these groups
or people were involved in 9/11. Not once.

You are getting way ahead of me on this.

I already said:

Quote:
I'm detailing the political and financial forces who are in play

And I'm not doing this 9/11 DejaVu audio series for the WRChange
fanatics who are stomping around yelling "Lock 'em all up!" --despite
their lack of a single shred of hard evidence or well-founded analysis.

As far as I am concerned, those who think nanoparticles and space beams
and pentagon missiles are a case for 9/11 being an inside job can just
get lost. They are a liability to us and to any prudent investigation.

I am slowly and methodically building a closely-argued case.

Stage 1, which we are still in, is to lay out the current covert
political landscape and it's historical roots. Akin to taking photos
of the crime scene.

Forensic analysis is next stage and I'm not even near doing that.

I said:

Quote:
We need to first understand clearly and definitively, based on
hard-nosed evaluation: which political and financial factions were at
the heart of the thrust of events. Then we need to identify within those
groups, which specific individuals would have been aware in advance
rather than just along for the ride later.


I've had it up to here with tinfoil, lynch-mob criteria of "9/11 evidence."

If you want to implicate Buffet in any meaningful way, that's a great
idea, but needs far more than this:

Quote:
Hombre:
If you think Warren and his circle of friends DOESN'T know what really
happened on 9-11 then you need to come out from under the ether
before you suffocate.


I'm not doing this 9/11 Deja Vu series for the "conspiracy theorists".

I'm doing it to persuade people who have never regarded themselves
as conspiracy theorists and who are vastly undereducated about the
real political and financial dynamics of all this.

And I'm doing it for non-tinfoil people with open minds and deep
suspicions or convictions about the 9/11 events --to provide them
with detailed, specific arguments in support of their concerns, so
that they can persuade many others and do something about it.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People are really smarter than we might give them credit for.

A Manx laborer I know here in Barcelona, who works on boats, told me that on the very day Sept 11, 2001 his first thought was that "it was something that the americans did on purpose"
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