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I'm really starting to wonder about Haiti...
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Background on the HAARP Project
By Rosalie Bertell
Earthpulse Press
November 5, 1996
http://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/212-environment/45492.html
Military interest in space became intense during and after World War II because of the introduction of rocket science, the companion to nuclear technology. The early versions include the buzz bomb and guided missiles. They were thought of as potential carriers of both nuclear and conventional bombs. Rocket technology and nuclear weapon technology developed simultaneously between 1945 and 1963. During this time of intensive atmospheric nuclear testing, explosions at various levels above and below the surface of the earth were tried. Some of the now familiar descriptions of the earth's protective atmosphere, such as the existence of the Van Allen belts, were based on information gained through stratospheric and ionospheric experimentation.
The earth's atmosphere consists of the troposphere, from sea level to about 16 km above the earth's surface; the stratosphere (which contains the ozone level) which extends from about the 16 to 48 km above the earth; and the ionosphere which extends from 48 km to over 50,000 km above the surface of the earth. The earth's protective atmosphere or "skin" extends beyond 3,200 km above sea level to the large magnetic fields, called the Van Allen Belts, which can capture the charged particles sprayed through the cosmos by the solar and galactic winds. These belts were discovered in 1958 during the first weeks of the operation of America's first satellite, Explorer I. They appear to contain charged particles trapped in the earth's gravity and magnetic fields. Primary galactic cosmic rays enter the solar system from interstellar space, and are made up of protons with energies above 100 MeV, extending up to astronomically high energies. They make up about 10% of the high energy rays. Solar rays are generally of lower energy, below 20 MeV (which is still high energy in earth terms). These high energy particles are affected by the earth's magnetic field and by geomagnetic latitude (distance above or below the geomagnetic equator). The flux density of low energy protons at the top of the atmosphere is normally greater at the poles than at the equator. The density also varies with solar activity, a minimum when solar flares are at a maximum.
The Van Allen belts capture charged particles (protons, electrons and alpha particles) and these spiral along the magnetic force lines toward the Polar Regions where the force lines converge. They are reflected back and forth between the magnetic force lines near the poles. The lower Van Allen Belt is about 7700 km above the earth's surface, and the outer Van Allen Belt is about 51,500 km above the surface. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, the Van Allen belts are most intense along the equator, and effectively absent over the poles. They dip to 400 km over the South Atlantic Ocean, and are about 1,000 km high over the Central Pacific Ocean. In the lower Van Allen Belt, the proton intensity is about 20,000 particles with energy above 30 MeV per second per square centimetre. Electrons reach a maximum energy of 1 MeV, and their intensity has a maximum of 100 million per second per square centimetre. In the outer Belt, proton energy averages only 1 MeV. For comparison, most charged particles discharged in a nuclear explosion are range between 0.3 and 3 MeV, while diagnostic medical X-ray has peak voltage around 0.5 MeV.
Project Argus (1958)
Between August and September 1958, the US Navy exploded three fission type nuclear bombs 480 km above the South Atlantic Ocean, in the part of the lower Van Allen Belt closest to the earth's surface. In addition, two hydrogen bombs were detonated 160 km over Johnston Island in the Pacific. This was called, by the military, "the biggest scientific experiment ever undertaken". It was designed by the US Department of Defence and the US Atomic Energy Commission, under the code name Project Argus. The purpose appears to be to assess the impact of high altitude nuclear explosions on radio transmission and radar operations because of the electro-magnetic pulse (EMP), and to increase understanding of the geomagnetic field and the behaviour of the charged particles in it.
This gigantic experiment created new (inner) magnetic radiation belts encompassing almost the whole earth, and injected sufficient electrons and other energetic particles into the ionosphere to cause world wide effects. The electrons travelled back and forth along magnetic force lines, causing an artificial "aurora" when striking the atmosphere near the North Pole. US Military planed to create a "telecommunications shield" in the ionosphere, reported in 13-20 August 1961, Keesings Historisch Archief (K.H.A.). This shield would be created "in the ionosphere at 3,000 km height, by bringing into orbit 350,000 million copper needles, each 2-4 cm long (total weight 16 kg), forming a belt 10 km thick and 40 km wide, the needles spaced about 100 m apart." This was designed to replace the ionosphere "because telecommunications are impaired by magnetic storms and solar flares". The US planned to add to the number of copper needles if the experiment proved to be successful. This plan was strongly opposed by the International Union of Astronomers.
Project Starfish (1962)
On 9 July 1962, the US began a further series of experiments with the ionosphere. From their description: "one kiloton device, at a height of 60 km and one megaton and one multi-megaton, at several hundred kilometres height" (K.H.A., 29 June 1962). These tests seriously disturbed the lower Van Allen Belt, substantially altering its shape and intensity. "In this experiment the inner Van Allen Belt will be practically destroyed for a period of time; particles from the Belt will be transported to the atmosphere. It is anticipated that the earth's magnetic field will be disturbed over long distances for several hours, preventing radio communication. The explosion in the inner radiation belt will create an artificial dome of polar light that will be visible from Los Angeles."(K.H.A. 11 May 1962). A Fijian Sailor, present at this nuclear explosion told me that the whole sky was on fire and he thought it would be the end of the world. This was the experiment which called forth the strong protest of the Queen's Astronomer, Sir Martin Ryle in the UK.
"The ionosphere (according to the understanding at that time) that part of the atmosphere between 65 and 80 km and 280-320 km height, will be disrupted by mechanical forces caused by the pressure wave following the explosion. At the same time, large quantities of ionizing radiation will be released, further ionizing the gaseous components of the atmosphere at this height. This ionization effect is strengthened by the radiation from the fission products...... The lower Van Allen Belt, consisting of charged particles that move along the geomagnetic field lines ... will similarly be disrupted. As a result of the explosion, this field will be locally destroyed, while countless new electrons will be introduced into the lower belt." (K.H.A. 11 May 1962)
"On 19 July.... NASA announced that as a consequence of the high altitude nuclear test of July 9, a new radiation belt had been formed, stretching from a height of about 400 km to 1600 km; it can be seen as a temporary extension of the lower Van Allen Belt." (K.H.A. 5 August 1962)
As explained in the Encyclopaedia Britannica: "... Starfish made a much wider belt (than Project Argus) that extends from low altitude out past L=3 (i.e. three earth radiuses or about 13,000 km above the surface of the earth)" Later in 1962, the USSR undertook similar planetary experiments, creating three new radiation belts between 7,000 and 13,000 km above the earth. According to the Encyclopaedia, the electron fluxes in the lower Van Allen Belt have changed markedly since the 1962 high-altitude nuclear explosions by the US and USSR, never returning to their former state. According to American scientists, it could take many hundreds of years for the Van Allen Belts to restabilise at their normal levels. (Research done by: Nigel Harle, Borderland Archives, Cortenbachstraat 32, 6136 CH Sittard, Netherlands.)
SPS: Solar Power Satellite Project (1968)
In 1968 the US military proposed Solar Powered Satellites in geostationary orbit some 40,000 km above the earth, which would intercept solar radiation using solar cells on satellites and transmit it via a microwave beam to receiving antennas, called rectennas, on earth. The US Congress mandated the Department of Energy and NASA to prepare an Environmental Impact Assessment on this project, to be completed by June 1980, and costing $25 Million. This project was designed to construct 60 Solar Powered Satellites over a thirty year period at a cost between $500 and $800 thousand million (in 1968 dollars), providing 10% of the US energy needs in the year 2025 at a cost of $3000 per kW. At that time, the project cost was two to three times larger than the whole Department of Energy budget, and the projected cost of the electricity was well above the cost of most conventional energy sources. The rectenna sites on earth were expected to take up to 145 square kilometres of land, and would preclude habitation by any humans, animals or even vegetation. Each Satellite was to be the size of Manhattan Island.
Saturn V Rocket (1975)
Due to a malfunction, the Saturn V Rocket burned unusually high in the atmosphere, above 300 km. This burn produced "a large ionospheric hole" (Mendillo, M. Et al., Science 187,343, 1975). The disturbance reduced the total electron content more than 60% over an area 1,000 km in radius, and lasted for several hours. It prevented all telecommunications over a large area of the Atlantic Ocean. The phenomenon was apparently caused by a reaction between the exhaust gases and ionospheric oxygen ions. The reaction emitted a 6300 A airglow. Between 1975 and 1981 NASA and the US Military began to design ways to test this new phenomena through deliberate experimentation with the ionosphere.
SPS Military Implications (1978)
Early review of the Solar Powered Satellite Project began in around 1978, and I was on the review panel. Although this was proposed as an energy program, it had significant military implications. One of the most significant, first pointed out by Michael J. Ozeroff, was the possibility of developing a satellite borne beam weapon for anti-ballistic missile (ABM) use. The satellites were to be in geosynchronous orbits, each providing an excellent vantage point from which an entire hemisphere can be surveyed continuously. It was speculated that a high energy laser beam could function as a thermal weapon to disable or destroy enemy missiles. There was some discussion of electron weapon beams, through the use of a laser beam to preheat a path for the following electron beam.
The SPS was also described as a psychological and anti-personnel weapon, which could be directed toward an enemy. If the main microwave beam was redirected away from its rectenna, toward enemy personnel, it could use an infrared radiation wavelength (invisible) as an anti-personnel weapon. It might also be possible to transmit high enough energy to ignite combustible materials. Laser beam power relays could be made from the SPS satellite to other satellites or platforms, for example aircraft, for military purposes. One application might be a laser powered turbofan engine which would receive the laser beam directly in its combustion chamber, producing the required high temperature gas for its cruising operation. This would allow unlimited on-station cruise time. As a psychological weapon, the SPS was capable of causing general panic.
The SPS would be able to transmit power to remote military operations anywhere needed on earth. The manned platform of the SPS would provide surveillance and early warning capability, and ELF linkage to submarines. It would also provide the capability of jamming enemy communications. The potential for jamming and creating communications is significant. The SPS was also capable of causing physical changes in the ionosphere.
President Carter approved the SPS Project and gave it a go-ahead, in spite of the reservation which many reviewers, myself included, expressed. Fortunately, it was so expensive, exceeding the entire Department of Energy budget, that funding was denied by the Congress. I approached the United Nations Committee on Disarmament on this project, but was told that as long as the program was called Solar Energy by the United States, it could not be considered a weapons project. The same project resurfaced in the US under President Reagan, moved to the much larger budget of the Department of Defence, and called Star Wars. Since this is more recent history, I will not discuss the debate which raged over this phase of the plan.
By 1978, it was apparent to the US Military that communications in a nuclear hostile environment would not be possible using traditional methods of radio and television technology (Jane's Military Communications 1978). By 1982, GTE Sylvania (Needham Heights, Massachusetts), had developed a command control electronic sub-system for the US Air Force's Ground Launch Cruise Missiles (GLCM) that would enable military commanders to monitor and control the missile prior to launch both in hostile and non-hostile environments. The system contains six radio subsystems, created with visible light using a dark beam (not visible), resistant to the disruptions experienced by radio and television. Dark beams contribute to the formation of energetic plasma in the atmosphere. This plasma can become visible as smog or fog. Some has a different charge than the sun's energy, and accumulates in places where the sun's energy is absent, like the polar regions in the winter. When the polar spring occurs, the sun appears and repels this plasma, contributing to holes in the ozone layer. This military system is called: Ground Wave Emergency Network (GWEN). (See The SECOM II Communication System, by Wayne Olsen, SAND 78-0391, Sandia Laboratories, Albuquerque, New Mexico, April 1978). This innovative emergency radio system was apparently never implemented in Europe, and exists only in North America.
Orbit Maneuvering System (1981)
Part of the plan to build the SPS space platforms was the demand for reusable space shuttles, since they could not afford to keep discarding rockets. The NASA Spacelab 3 Mission of the Space Shuttle made, in 1981, "a series of passes over a network of five ground based observatories" in order to study what happened to the ionosphere when the Shuttle injected gases into it from the Orbit Maneuvering System (OMS). They discovered that they could "induce ionospheric holes", and began to experiment with holes made in the day time, or at night over Millstone, Connecticut, and Arecibo, Puerto Rico. They experimented with the effects of "artificially induced ionospheric depletions on very low frequency wave lengths, on equatorial plasma instabilities, and on low frequency radio astronomical observations over Roberval, Quebec, Kwajelein, in the Marshall Islands and Hobart, Tasmania. (Advanced Space Research, Vol.8, No. 1, 1988)
Innovative Shuttle Experiments (1985)
An innovative use of the Space Shuttle to perform space physics experiments in earth orbit was launched, using the OMS injections of gases to "cause a sudden depletion in the local plasma concentration, the creation of a so-called ionospheric hole". This artificially induced plasma depletion can then be used to investigate other space phenomena, such as the growth of the plasma instabilities or the modification of radio propagation paths. The 47 second OMS burn of July 29,1985, produced the largest and most long-lived ionospheric hole to date, dumping some 830 kg of exhaust into the ionosphere at sunset. A 6 second, 68 km OMS release above Connecticut in August 1985, produced an airglow which covered over 400,000 square km.
During the 1980's rocket launches globally numbered about 500 to 600 a year, peaking at 1500 in 1989. There were many more during the Gulf War. The Shuttle is the largest of the solid fuel rockets, with twin 45 metre boosters. All solid fuel rockets release large amounts of hydrochloric acid in their exhaust, each Shuttle flight injecting about 75 tonnes of ozone destroying chlorine into the stratosphere. Those launched since 1992 inject even more ozone destroying chlorine, about 187 tonnes, into the stratosphere (which contains the ozone layer).
Mighty Oaks (1986)
In April 1986, just before the Chernobyl disaster, the US had a failed hydrogen test at the Nevada Test Site called Mighty Oaks. This test, conducted far underground, consisted of a hydrogen bomb explosion in one chamber, with a leaded steel door to the chamber, two metres thick, closing within milliseconds of the blast. The door was to allow only the first radioactive beam to escape into the "control room" in which expensive instrumentation was located. The radiation was to be captured as a weapon beam. The door failed to close as quickly as planned, causing the radioactive gases and debris to fill the control room, destroying millions of dollars worth of equipment. The experiment was part of a program to develop X-ray and particle beam weapons. The radioactive releases from Mighty Oaks were vented, under a "licensed venting", and were likely responsible for many of the North American nuclear fallout reports in May 1986, which were attributed to the Chernobyl disaster.
Desert Storm (1991)
According to Defence News, April 13 - 19, 1992, the US deployed an electromagnetic pulse weapon (EMP) in Desert Storm, designed to mimic the flash of electricity from a nuclear bomb. The Sandia National Laboratory had built a 23,000 square metre laboratory on the Kirkland Air Force Base, 1989, to house the Hermes III electron beam generator capable of producing 20 Trillion Watt pulses lasting 20 billionths to 25 billionths of a second. This X-ray simulator is called a Particle Beam Fusion Accelerator. A stream of electrons hitting a metal plate can produce a pulsed X-ray or gamma ray. Hermes II had produced electron beams since 1974. These devices were apparently tested during the Gulf War, although detailed information on them is sparse.
High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program HAARP (1993)
The HAARP Program is jointly managed by the US Air Force and the US Navy, and is based in Gakona, Alaska. It is designed to "understand, simulate and control ionospheric processes that might alter the performance of communication and surveillance systems". The HAARP system intends to beam 3.6 Gigawatts of effective radiated power of high frequency radio energy into the ionosphere in order to:
- generate extremely low frequency (ELF) waves for communicating with submerged submarines,
- conduct geophysical probes to identify and characterize natural ionospheric processes so that techniques can be developed to mitigate or control them,
-generate ionospheric lenses to focus large amounts of high frequency (HF) energy, thus providing a means of triggering ionospheric processes that potentially could be exploited for Department of Defence purposes,
-electron acceleration for infrared (IR) and other optical emissions which could be used to control radio wave propagation properties,
-generate geomagnetic field aligned ionization to control the reflection\scattering properties of radio waves,
-use oblique heating to produce effects on radio wave propagation, thus broadening the potential military applications of ionospheric enhancement technology.
Poker Flat Rocket Launch (1968 to Present)
The Pocker Flat Research Range is located about 50 km North of Fairbanks, Alaska, and it was established in 1968. It is operated by the Geophysical Institute with the University of Alaska Fairbanks, under NASA contract. About 250 major rocket launches have taken place from this site, and in 1994, a 16 metre long rocket was launched to help NASA "understand chemical reactions in the atmosphere associated with global climate change". Similar experiments, but using Chemical Release Modules (CRM) have been launched from Churchill, Manitoba. In 1980, Brian Whelan's "Project Waterhole", disrupted an aurora borealis, bringing it to a temporary halt. In February 1983, the chemical released into the ionosphere caused an aurora borealis over Churchill. In March 1989, two Black Brant X's and two Nike Orions rockets were launched over Canada, releasing barium at high altitudes and creating artificial clouds. These Churchill artificial clouds were observed from as far away as Los Alamos, New Mexico.
The US Navy has also been carrying on High Power Auroral Stimulation (HIPAS) research in Alaska. Through a series of wires and a 15 metre antenna, they have beamed high intensity signals into the upper atmosphere, generating a controlled disturbance in the ionosphere. As early as 1992, the Navy talked of creating 10 kilometre long antennas in the sky to generate extremely low frequency (ELF) waves needed for communicating with submarines.
Another purpose of these experiments is to study the Aurora Borealis, called by some an outdoor plasma lab for studying the principles of fusion. Shuttle flights are now able to generate auroras with an electron beam. On November 10, 1991, and aurora borealis appeared in the Texas sky for the first time ever recorded, and it was seen by people as far away as Ohio and Utah, Nebraska and Missouri. The sky was "Christmas colours", and various scientists were quick to blame it on solar activity. However, when pressed most would admit that the ionosphere must have been weakened at the time, so that the electrically charged particle hitting the earth's atmosphere created the highly visible light called airglow. These charged particles are normally pulled northwards by the earths magnetic forces, to the magnetic north pole. The Northern Lights, as the aurora borealis is called, normally occurs in the vortex at the pole where the energetic particles, directed by the magnetic force lines, are directed.
Conclusions
It would be rash to assume that HAARP is an isolated experiment which would not be expanded. It is related to fifty years of intensive and increasingly destructive programs to understand and control the upper atmosphere. It would be rash not to associate HAARP with the space laboratory construction which is separately being planned by the United States. HAARP is an integral part of a long history of space research and development of a deliberate military nature.
The military implications of combining these projects is alarming. Basic to this project is control of communications, both disruption and reliability in hostile environments. The power wielded by such control is obvious. The ability of the HAARP / Spacelab/ rocket combination to deliver very large amount of energy, comparable to a nuclear bomb, anywhere on earth via laser and particle beams, are frightening. The project is likely to be "sold" to the public as a space shield against incoming weapons, or , for the more gullible, a devise for repairing the ozone layer.
Further References:
C.L. Herzenberg, Physics and Society, April 1994.
R. Williams, Physics and Society, April 1988.
B. Eastlund, Microwave News, May/June 1994.
W. Kofman and C. Lathuillere, Geophysical Research Letters, Vol 14, No. 11, pp 1158-1161, November 1987 (Includes French experiments at EISCAT).
G. Metz and F.W. Perkins. "Ionospheric Modification Theory: Past Present and Future", Radio Science, Vol.9, No. 11, pp 885-888, November 1974.
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Peter

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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:28 am Post subject: Natural disasters waiting to happen... |
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I gather that Iran is riddled with fault lines... _________________ The grand design, reflected in the face of Chaos. |
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"Im with Bri on this one."
Woah settle down I didn't HAARP nothing!  _________________ "I only remember the future"- Andrei Tarkovsky |
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Hombre
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| Quote: | | Im with Bri on this one. Have any of you self proclaimed experts actually done any research into HAARP and ELF as a weapons system? |
Where is the expert bullshit coming from? You must be joking! I don't recall anyone claiming to be expert at anything. Unless you want to begin a thread in regard to Football or Golf, or maybe shooting. I can shoot expert but that doesn't mean jack shit. Experts are best left to Parry Mason of some guy named Sherlock!
The Russians sent Katrina, the US countered with a complete freeze of Russia. A tit for tat game, only it's no game. That's crap has been on the net for a few years now, run down the owner of the site, who host's it, where it's from and you too will dismiss it as pure bullshit! Ain't nuttin EXPERT ABOUT IT.
One thing you've touched on that is obvious: Hugo would indeed be the one to open his trap: Maybe's he's chewing his cud again? Or did the PTB just send an e-mail and say: Okay boy you're up----Give em the God stuff---we love it.
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Hombre
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I was once told by a wise man Hey Hombre'--It's better to be pissed off than to be pissed on
So I can assume that in this case it is better to be disappointed as opposed to being let down
At this point the Old Harrp thing has no legs, neither does a weapons test. However Mother Nature is another story. I doubt that she need's Hugo, youtube, the net, or a Military to have her voice heard. The photos on the other hand help to clarify the chaos,and help to clear up any speculation about exotic invisible lightning bolts.
Who was that crazy bastard who said Haiti was set straight by God because of a past pact with the devil? The Devil mind you, surely God, a just God that is, would not eliminate 300,000 souls from his flock with a mere flick of his wrist. Now Hollywood is involved. Can there be a Movie far behind, what shall the title be?
They've already done Volcano, Earthquake, and a crazy piece of shit called " SPACE COWBOYS " Have you seen that one?
What was that classic where the dude rode the Nuke like a Horse?
Now if Dr Judy Wood should happen to show up in Haiti that may get my attention, but Until then I'll keep calling them Earthquakes and Hurricanes. Sounds like a Law Firm doesn't it.
I'm intentionally leaving out the Hole in the Sky above Norway because it's already been blamed for the severe winter weather in Europe. I am somewhat surprised that AL kay Duh didn't claim that one as being " CLIMATIC TERRORISM " That's quite a leap from Boxers and Briefs, can you imagine the possibilities? Hugo must have been asleep at the wheel on that one but I can understand since it's on the other side of the planet. Now Haiti is a bit closer to home, maybe that has something to do with the accusations, maybe he's just scared.
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I am but a PUPPET on a string:
Venezuela's Chavez Sidesteps Haiti Debt Relief Requests
| Quote: | CARACAS (Dow Jones)--President Hugo Chavez refused Monday to respond to calls by rich nations for Venezuela to forgive the debt Haiti owes it.
In the wake of a massive, deadly earthquake that hit impoverished Haiti on Jan. 12, several industrialized countries and international organizations have called for countries owed money by Haiti to write the debts off.
Haiti's debt with Venezuela is among the biggest, at $167 million, according to report at the end of 2008 from the International Monetary Fund.
"Some are using this issue to make Venezuela appear to be an insensitive country...saying it has to announce" its debt plans, Chavez said.
Venezuela "doesn't have to announce," he said.
Among those that have called for broad-based debt relief are the U.K, the Paris Club and the IMF.
"We're not the Paris Club or the IMF," Chavez said. |
He's, I mean we're NOT the IMF. But after his buzz had run it's course he must have been enlightened in some manner.
Chavez forgives Haiti's debt
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President Hugo Chavez on Monday said that Petrocaribe, Venezuela's cut-rate regional energy alliance, will forgive quake-stricken Haiti's debt.
Haiti's debt with Venezuela is US$295 million, about one-third of its global foreign debt of US$1 billion, according to International Monetary Fund figures.
"Haiti has no debt with Venezuela - on the contrary, it is Venezuela that has a historic debt with Haiti," Chavez said as he made the announcement.
Chavez was referring to the support that Haiti - which obtained its independence from France in 1804 - gave Venezuelan independence leader Simon Bolivar in 1815 and 1816 in his quest to free his country from Spanish colonial rule.
Chavez made the announcement at the closing ceremony of a meeting of foreign ministers from leftist countries with the ALBA trade alliance, a Cuba and Venezuela-supported regional common market founded in 2004.
Petrocaribe provides preferential oil pricing for its Caribbean members, with Venezuela picking up 40 percent of the cost if oil is selling over US$50 a barrel.
When oil prices are above US$50, member states will have up to 25 years to pay the bulk of the debt at a one percent interest rate, with two years grace.
Haiti, struggling to recover from the Jan. 12 devastating 7.0 earthquake, received in the past days 225,000 barrels of Petrocaribe oil sent through the neighboring Dominican Republic.
Both Haiti and the Dominican Republic are Petrocaribe members. |
Insert music/violins here:
http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.php?id=1165490&lang=eng_news
Next please:
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Geez, a (NWO/CIA stooge) guy can't do a good turn without someone shitting on it!
It must be really hard playing that double agent role - he gets shit from all sides!
Forgiving Debt!!?? (because he's been told to) isn't too obviously NWO policy, so I'm curious as to what's the angle there?
Here is a good article that I think you all should read just to get a different point of view from that of Reuters, Associated Press, Agence France Press or Spain's EFE on what's really happening in Latin America.
| Quote: | Nicaragua, ALBA, and Intellectual Betrayal
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/5083
January 19th 2010, by Toni Solo
People in Latin America have frequently found themselves fighting regular forces and mercenary contractors coordinated ultimately by the United States Southern Command, the State Department and related US government bodies. That was true in Central America in the 1980s. It has been the case in Colombia for many years. On a smaller scale it is happening now in Honduras. Shortly, they may well find themselves fighting regular forces and mercenary contractors coordinated by NATO.
2009 marked the transition via a practically seamless continuity in US government foreign policy in Latin America from one gangster US government administration to another. The international intellectual and information-media manager classes have failed to report assertively and adequately the US government's escalating war on the peoples of Latin America. For overstretched US military forces, anxious to apply pressure to perceived enemies in Latin America, resorting to NATO's mutual defence Article 5 - as they have in Afghanistan - is an attractive option. With its new military bases in Colombia, the US government can readily provoke an incident as they did fifty years ago in the Tonkin Gulf.
The Venezuelan government recently expressed concern about the intentions of the US government in relation to its bases in the Dutch Antilles- Aruba and Curacao. Holland is a member country of NATO. The well known NATO war games known as Plan Balboa posited unequivocally a joint NATO operation against Venezuela. Despite this, leading US intellectuals like Noam Chomsky dismiss the chances of a US government-led aggression against Venezuela. (1) Their failure of imagination only makes sense in the broad economic, political and propaganda context of the Americas.
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A very strong correlation exists between that blatant domestic intervention by the US authorities to rescue the country's financial and insurance sector and militarist US government foreign policy. In Colombia, increased direct intervention via seven new US military bases now follows billion-dollar military funding for the US government's narco-terror ally, President Alvaro Uribe. In Mexico, Felipe Calderon's usurper government, a few years behind, follows in Uribe's footsteps. Via Plan Merida, the US government is funding intense militarization of Mexico's narcotics wars, just as it did in Colombia from the late 1990s onwards.
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Of those target countries in South and Central America, Venezuela, Ecuador and Nicaragua are all members of the ALBA economic and development cooperation community. The ALBA countries have made dramatic improvements in terms of capital investment, current account liquidity and social improvements. Nicaragua and Bolivia have eradicated illiteracy in just three years. Throughout the ALBA bloc, greater access to better health care has been prioritised successfully.(4) ALBA's associated, less comprehensive, Petrocaribe (5) framework provides increased energy security and food security to around 90 million people in over 17 countries in Latin America and the Caribbean.
ALBA's fundamental principles of solidarity and complementarity and the absence of conditionality have resulted in very significant economic and social gains for the bloc's member countries. For example, Nicaragua's trade with Venezuela – mostly in agricultural produce - reached over US$110 million in 2009 and is expected to double in 2010. ALBA countries have supplemented relatively modest capital investment from traditional partners in North America, Japan and Europe, with funding from Brazil, China, Russia and India as well as partners like Vietnam and Iran.
For the US and its allies among the Western Bloc countries, the expansion and success of ALBA and Petrocaribe represent two undesirable trends. Political and economic elites in North America and Europe fear and resent the relative decline in their regional influence as Latin America – with ALBA leading the way – develops broader and deeper relations with Western Bloc rivals like China, Russia and Iran. They also fear regional moves towards integration which in practice permit the combination and consolidation of economic and political power by relatively small countries, previously easy to dominate in isolation, but now, united, more ready and able to resist Western Bloc rich-country coercion.
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Western Bloc propaganda – the three big lies
Elections in the region occur within the much broader propaganda and perception management theatre of the US government's war against Latin America's impoverished majorities. As in any propaganda war, the main themes are very few and are repeated endlessly, regardless of contrary facts. Those main themes are adapted to fit the requirements needed to render plausible US government aggression against countries that resist regional policy in Latin America of the US and its allies. They are:
the US government and its allies promote democracy, stability and economic prosperity
the “war on drugs” requires significant US military presence and large amounts of US aid;
conversely, the governments of President Hugo Chavez in Venezuela and of other ALBA bloc countries destabilize the region, are undemocratic, incompetent, corrupt and involved in narcotics and/or terrorism.
These absurd propaganda claims are entirely counterfactual. As in all the most effective propaganda, they are very simple lies, frequently and incessantly repeated via every possible medium. Even a cursory look at the reality of US regional policy in Latin America reveals how throughly mendacious this propaganda really is.
The main US allies in the region are Colombia, Mexico and Peru. Colombia's government is deeply implicated in both narcotics and in paramilitary mass-murder. Dozens of Alvaro Uribe's colleagues are either in gaol or facing indictment as the Colombian State struggles to maintain at least the facade of legitimacy. Colombia's human rights record is among the worst in the world. Paramilitary leaders have openly boasted they have bought over 30% of the deputies in the Colombian legislature. Colombia has over 4 million displaced people, mostly rural families driven from their homes by brutal paramilitary and army campaigns as a result of Colombia's fifty-year-old civil war. Despite being fabulously wealthy in terms of natural resources, Colombia sits over 20 places below Cuba in the United Nations Human Development Index.
Mexico's crisis of governance amidst economic chaos and out-of-control narcotics activity deepens month by month. President Felipe Calderon took power via blatant electoral fraud in a political system universally regarded as hopelessly corrupt. Serious human rights abuses occur incessantly throughout the country. Mexico, for all its oil wealth, cannot even provide food security to its people. After well over a decade of membership of the North American Free Trade Agreement, Mexico ranks below Cuba – victim of 50 years of US economic blockade - in the United Nations Human Development Index.
Peru's President Alan Garcia is another notoriously corrupt leader with questionable legitimacy. The recent massacre of indigenous people during environmental protests at Bagua recalled Garcia's responsibility for massacres of political prisoners in the 1980s. The Peruvian government deliberately and flagrantly persecutes political opponents, environmental activists and trades unionists. Despite excellent macro-economic numbers, Peru sits 20 places below Cuba in the UN Human Development Index, right down there with Colombia.
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As the global reach of media corporations has increased, control of information channels has become tighter and more concentrated. News has become almost indistinguishable from entertainment and is treated with similar criteria of what will sell, what people – especially relatively powerful people - will like. In the Western Bloc countries of North America, Europe and their Pacific allies, almost all general international news is provided by a few agencies - like Reuters, Associated Press, Agence France Press or Spain's EFE. Competing input from non-Western Bloc news agencies – similar to their Western Bloc counterparts - like China's Xinhua or Russia's Novosti, let alone the excellent information available from Cuba's Prensa Latina, or Venezuela's ABN, almost never figure in reporting on Latin America by the main Western Bloc media.
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The most basic betrayal is to actively lie about events or deliberately misrepresent them by omitting readily available, relevant information.
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Lie was piled upon lie, systematically omitting inconvenient facts.
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In retrospect, one of the most important ALBA-related initiatives has been the establishment of the communcations and media company Telesur. The coup in Honduras demonstrated Telesur's value beyond any doubt. Through July 2009, it was virtually the only news media giving something like a full account of the brutality and illegitimacy of the Honduran military coup. That experience categorically vindicated Telesur's founders. They recognized many years ago that only a regional media initiative run by local managers loyal to their own peoples would ever give a true and fair view of events in Latin America.
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In light of that, it's a bit worrying that you still insist on repeating LIES that have already been exposed as such.
Chavez DIDN'T say that the US caused the earthquake.
But it seems that doesn't matter, either way cause he's got a big mouth and he's THEIR guy.
ALBA seems to doing pretty well too. But anyway...
The best we've got so far is some circumstantial evidence of support by known CIA fake Wayne Masden coupled with the most un-NWO behaviour possible.
If it's true - It's an piece of mind fucking master class NWO/CIA fake brilliance!
For what? To control the rising revolucionary tide of Latin American's poor sheding their shackles?
We'll let him do all this hugely successful, totally un-NWO social improvement stuff to keep up appearances.
But just in case, we'll go done the well tested and well worn road of business as usual military intervention, corruption, etc. etc.
It's bit like biting off your nose to spite your face.
Maybe he was THEIR guy to start with but now he's gone rouge and THEY have to reel him in again. Hence the unpresidented military build up in the area.
THAT perhaps I could believe.
Despite your "it's a foregone conclusion" insistance - I'd say the jury's still out on this one. |
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| Quote: | | Here is a good article that I think you all should read just to get a different point of view from that of Reuters, Associated Press, Agence France Press or Spain's EFE on what's really happening in Latin America. |
I think we are done. Sorry my friend but it's quite obvious that you are flogging the proverbial dead horse. ENOUGH 4 ME!
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James D
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I'd have been gone long ago too, but you keep reposting false information and outright lies.
I think it's only right to call you on that.
But the truth is you don't care - it's Chavez/Latin America/Cuba etc. you feel you can post anything you like, lies, manipulation, pure fantasy, just make it up as you go along, without the slightest embarrassment. With smug indifference you feel under no obligation to justify it. Don't worry - it's par for the course!
You clearly didn't read that article - shame, you might have actually learnt something.
Enjoy the comfort of your happy space.
Ignorance is bliss! |
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Hombre
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Posting lies, come now who's more full of shit. Did you say it's just another POINT OF VIEW or did I misread?
Call me on what? lol~~you're right about one thing my friend only I must clarify: It's not that I don't care, I care about lot's of things, it's that in this instance I DON'T GIVE A FLYING PHUCK.
Hugo is a flaming IDIOT, there are far too many incidents that bear this out as absolute fact. So where are you coming from, maybe you're just playing Cop, armchair style, maybe you're Latino is that PC or is it something else.
One sorry ass sad thing about these boards are those who call a kettle black while being a giant Pot themselves. Before you get your knickers in a tiny twist remember it's only an opinion:
SO have at it Mate, call him what you will and as you said ( I DON'T CARE )
HE's still a NWO TOOL to me.
Hombre'
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James D
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The only one who's got their knickers in a twist is YOU, because you got caught with your pants down!
Pot calling the kettle black? - That's rich!
If you can't stand the heat in the kitchen ...
| Quote: | | Hugo is a flaming IDIOT |
Now finally you say something we can all agree on!
He's a PRIZE CLOWN dude and proud of it.
Anyway, despite suspicions (and nothing more than that) of him being a "NWO Tool" - we're still waiting for him to ACTUALLY do something incriminatingly NWO'ish.
Name ONE thing - ANYTHING. |
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James D
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Not that you're even the least bit interested in having it brought to your attention, but just for the record.
| Quote: | Truth over delusion: Hugo Chavez did not accuse the U.S. of causing the Haitian earthquake
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/5117
February 3rd 2010, by The Anti Press
On January 19, Spanish newspaper ABC, a newspaper of record in Spain, published a story entitled Chavez accuses US of causing earthquake in Haiti.
The story was quickly picked up by websites around the globe - most quoting Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez as saying the U.S. used a new tectonic weapon to induce the Haitian earthquake. This was, according to Chavez - "only a drill, and the final target is destroying and taking over Iran".
Within the actual story, ABC noted that the information came from an obscure opinion post on the website of a Venezuelan state television channel, VIVE Television. The post referenced a supposed Russian military report on American seismic weapons.
All quotes subsequently attributed to Chavez regarding Haiti and earthquake weapons were in fact direct quotes from this web posting - none of which was ever uttered by Chavez.
Spurred on by the international attention being received by its first story, ABC posted a second article on January 20 under the banner The Secret Weapon to Cause Earthquakes in which it cites Chavez as having blamed the US for razing Haiti.
By the time the story had run its course, it had been covered with varying degrees of accuracy by corporate news channels, foreign outlets eager to accuse the U.S. of another evil deed, and conspiracy websites happy to have their ideas officially validated.
In the end, it serves as one more reminder to those who prefer truth over ideological delusion: there are some subjects for which the myths of journalistic standards will still be displayed - stories about the government of Venezuela are not one of those subjects.
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To me Chavez like Ahmedinajad is your classic puppet who's one main purpose is to make outrageous statements which are then spun to scare the crap out of western Joe's. Like Ahmedinajads "Wipe Israel off the map " being an obvious one - He didn't say that of course he just used words which conveniently were easily translated to mean just that.
With this system the MIC can get the required fear they need for arms manufacture - with the luxury of knowing nothing is actually gonna happen.
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LucyFurnace

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| GaryGo wrote: | To me Chavez like Ahmedinajad is your classic puppet who's one main purpose is to make outrageous statements which are then spun to scare the crap out of western Joe's. Like Ahmedinajads "Wipe Israel off the map " being an obvious one - He didn't say that of course he just used words which conveniently were easily translated to mean just that.
With this system the MIC can get the required fear they need for arms manufacture - with the luxury of knowing nothing is actually gonna happen.
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