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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:28 pm    Post subject: Codex Alimentarius Revisited Reply with quote

I posted something up about this years ago, but I got into a discussion recently on Facebook, and it reminded me of this issue.

Authored by IG Farben, approved by the WTO, protected under the encroaching umbrella of Napoleonic Law, to be implemented by the UN and WHO. Nuff said?
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Codex Alimentarius (World Food Code)
Summarized in 7 Points


HealthFreedomUSA.org, the website of the Natural Solutions Foundation, is beholden to no one: our only interest is health freedom. Rima E. Laibow, MD, successful natural medicine physician since the 1970s, has studied 16,000 pages of Codex documentation. Her conclusion is that people who say that Codex is “consumer protection”, “voluntary”, or “harmless” are, at best, seriously mistaken.

Codex in Depth: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=161

1) Started in 1962 by UN, Imposed by WTO Sanctions

Codex Alimentarius was created in 1962 as a trade Commission by the UN to control the international trade of food. Its initial intentions may have been altruistic but it has been taken over by corporate interests, most notably the pharmaceutical, pesticide, biotechnology and chemical industries.

Codex Alimentarius is backed up by the crippling trade sanctions of the World Trade Organization (WTO). Any non Codex-compliant nation would face huge economic punishment since they would automatically lose in any food-trade dispute with a Codex compliant country.
2) “Nutrients are Toxins” Is Junk Science

Codex Alimentarius Commission (CAC) has two committees which impact nutrition.

One of them, the “Codex Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses” (CCNFSDU), is chaired by Dr. Rolf Grossklaus, a physician who believes that nutrition has no role in health. This is the “top-guy” for Codex nutritional policy, and he has stated that “nutrition is not relevant to health”.

As unbelievable as it may sound, Dr. Grossklaus actually declared nutrients to be toxins in 1994 and instituted the use of toxicology (Risk Assessment) to prevent nutrients from having any impact on humans who take supplements! It is worth mentioning that Dr. Grossklaus happens to own the Risk Assessment company advising CCNFSDU and Codex on this issue. This company makes money when its toxicology services are used for the “assessment” of nutrients. Here in the U.S. we call that a “conflict of interest”.

Codex is made up of thousands of standards and guidelines. One of them, the Vitamin and Mineral Guideline (VMG), is designed to permit only ultra low doses of vitamins and minerals (and make clinically effective nutrients illegal). How can the VMG restrict dosages of vitamins and minerals? By using Risk Assessment (toxicology) to assess nutrients.

While Risk Assessment is a legitimate science (it is a branch of toxicology), it is the wrong science for assessing nutrients! In fact, in this context, it is actually junk science. Biochemistry, the science of life processes, is the correct science for assessing nutrients. Codex Alimentarius treats nutrients as toxins, which is literally insane.

Nutrients are not toxins – they are essential for life.

No matter what Codex Alimentarius officials say to convince you that Risk Assessment is a “science-based” approach to nutrients, it is not.

And it is worth repeating that Dr. Grossklaus, the head of Codex Alimentarius, owns the Risk Assessment company advising CCNFSDU and Codex on the “benefit” of using Risk Assessment to assess nutrients.

3) Not Consumer Protection – That’s Propaganda

Contrary to the propaganda, Codex Alimentarius has nothing to do with consumer protection. Nothing! Codex is about the economic ambitions of multi-national corporations, in particular, the pharmaceutical industry.

Using their multi billion-dollar marketing budgets, these industries have launched a massive media propaganda campaign to paint Codex Alimentarius as a benevolent tool of “consumer protection”, as well as to negatively taint the image of natural health options and mislead people to fear them as “dangerous”, so they will take drugs (which really are dangerous). Natural health products and options have an amazing safety record and are remarkably effective, especially when compared to pharmaceutical drugs.

Unfortunately, one-time defenders of health freedom such as National Nutritional Foods Association (NNFA) and Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN) have joined the propaganda bandwagon and are spreading false information saying that Codex Alimentarius is either “harmless” or benevolent “consumer protection”. Neither is true.

The membership of these one-time defenders of health freedom has become permeated by people from the pharmaceutical industry (for example, CRN counts as its members corporations such as Monsanto® and Bayer®).

4) Codex: Serious Threat to Health and Health Freedom

If Codex Alimentarius is implemented in the United States of America, therapeutic dosages of vitamins and minerals (and all other nutrients soon to follow) will become unavailable because they will literally become illegal.

Here’s how it would work, in a nut-shell:

Due to the junk science use of Risk Assessment (toxicology) to assess supposedly toxic nutrients, a false belief is being engineered saying that “nutritional supplements are dangerous to people’s health”.

Using this false belief generates calls to “protect” people from these “toxic” nutrients. After the calls come the bills to set ultra low permissible dosages (remember, nutrients are deemed “dangerous toxins” under this false belief). If enough of us and our Congressional delegates buy this nonsense, we and Congress would blindly comply with Codex Alimentarius’ VMG. And blind compliance is what the industries behind Codex Alimentarius intend.

Blind compliance goes hand-in-hand with lack of activism. This lack of activism allows our protective laws, classifying nutrients as foods with no upper limits (such as DSHEA), to be easily repealed and replaced with draconian laws to classify nutrients as toxins. And “harmonization” with the pro-illness, pro-pharmaceutical industry Vitamin and Mineral Guideline is there to fill the void.

Only intentionally ineffective, ultra low dose supplements would be legal, with or without a prescription, on the VMG list. If enough people do not take action, we can expect to watch nutritional supplement manufacturers and, thus health food stores, to go out of business, in a domino effect. The only player left standing would be Big Pharma.

Therapeutic grade vitamins, minerals, and amino acids would be eliminated from the marketplace (although a few low-dose supplements would be allowed by Codex, as a symbolic measure to avoid suspicion about their ulterior motive).

Natural health professionals would lose the tools of their trade (nutritional supplements) and health conscious people would be unable to choose natural health options for health promotion and disease treatment.

And that is, in a nutshell, how Codex Alimentarius is poised to make Natural and Nutritional Medicine (NNM) disappear from the legal health world and go underground. Who benefits? Big Pharma.

It would take a few years for the above scenarios to be feasible (Codex Alimentarius is meant to go into full global effect by 2010). The slower the process takes, the less alarmed people will be. That’s probably the logic of the architects of Codex Alimentarius.

5) Serves Economic Interests of Sickness Industries Through WTO and Napoleonic Code

More and more people are turning to natural health products globally. The “wellness” trend is a major trend in today’s society. The more natural health products people use, the fewer drugs they buy. The pharmaceutical industry, which is part of the “Sickness Industry”, fears the inevitable shift toward natural health care.

Instead of accepting the will of the people and rethinking the future of the pharmaceutical industry, the industry has decided upon an unethical course of action: the use of deception and deceit to eliminate natural health products completely.

Codex Alimentarius is a shrewd vehicle for protecting the pharmaceutical industry from the loss of income it stands to suffer due to the inevitable growth of natural healthcare.

Codex Alimentarius is the resistance of the dinosaurs to inevitability: the burgeoning desire of humanity for a healthier, saner, and more sustainable way of life.

The World Trade Organization (WTO) intends to force Codex Alimentarius upon the nations of the world, including the U.S. This would be done under the threat of massive economic sanctions if WTO-countries do not comply with Codex Alimentarius.

Furthermore, Codex is based in the Napoleonic Code, not Common Law. That means that under Codex Alimentarius, anything not explicitly permitted is forbidden. Under Common Law, we hold that anything not explicitly forbidden is permitted. The difference is the difference between health freedom and health tyranny. Codex Alimentarius would be able to ban supplements by default.

6) DSHEA Protects America From Codex Alimentarius

The Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA, 1994), an American law classifying our supplements and herbs as foods (which can have no upper limit set on their use), was passed by unanimous Congressional consent following massive grass-roots support organized by health food stores. Millions of American activists told Congress, in no uncertain terms:

“Protect nutritional supplements as foods or we will remove you from office”.

Congress listened and carried out the will of the people.

DSHEA appropriately classifies nutritional supplements as foods which can have no upper limits set on their use. DSHEA recognizes that people use nutrients safely to deal with their individually differing needs for nutrients. The concept of biochemical individuality means that people have different needs for nutrients at different times. Are nutrients toxins? No, they are not toxins. They are substances essential to prevent, treat and cure any chronic condition, in differing doses at different times in different people.

DSHEA protects the US from Codex Alimentarius’ deadly Vitamin and Mineral Guideline. We must reach our Congressional members, educate them about the facts on Codex Alimentarius and direct them to vote against anything that would threaten DSHEA.

Congress holds the keys to our health freedom. And it is their job to listen to us. Let’s not allow cynicism to tell us otherwise. We did it for DSHEA in 1994. We can do it again this year.

7) Your Action is Needed Now!

DSHEA is under significant legislative attack right now. Your letter-writing is crucial: if the members of Congress know that voting against health freedom means losing their jobs come election time, they will listen. Our job is to make sure they get the message loud and clear. Take action via our 3 easy steps and send personalized emails to Congress right now.

After taking action on HealthFreedomUSA.org, consider getting together with others in your area and visit your Congressional members in their home offices. If we wait, we lose our health freedoms. Once we “HARMonize” with Codex, by the way, we no longer have the right, while we belong to the WTO, to repeal or change that “HARMonization”!
Conclusion

The objective of the pro-Codex Alimentarius multi nationals is to “boil the frog slowly” so that we do not wake up to it in time to avoid Codex.

Once we have “HARMonize” to Codex Alimentarius, as long as we are in the WTO, we cannot amend or change what we’ve been “HARMonize” to.

Codex Alimentarius will go into global implementation by December 31, 2009, unless We, the People, avert it. We must act now because right now, with $758 Million spent on declared Congressional lobbying by Big Pharma last year, there are members of Congress who are trying to overturn DSHEA and allow Pharma-friendly free reign for Codex. If protective laws like DSHEA are destroyed, the sanctioning power of the autocratic WTO kicks in, and it will be impossible to get out from under Codex Alimentarius. We can protect our access to high potency nutrients and stave off an adulterated food supply only by putting pressure on Congress.

If you would like more in-depth information about Codex Alimentarius before taking action, please click here.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dec 31, 2009 has just passed. Codex is apparently now in effect. The hoopla over this in the MSM is about as non-hoopla as it gets.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI rump ...

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=61768#61768

Shocked

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, so what's the deal with her and Codex? Codex really is a good thing, she's bad-mouthing it for... what reason? Or is this her cred establishment, so she can peddle other crap?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rumpl4skn wrote:
Okay, so what's the deal with her and Codex? Codex really is a good thing, she's bad-mouthing it for... what reason? Or is this her cred establishment, so she can peddle other crap?


You know better than that, you are an old timer on this forum ...

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The codex will not be implemented by December 31st in 2009, although there are rumors to this effect, yet informed sources believe this to happen most likely in 2012 or 2013, as is reported by the Alliance for Natural Health, Europe.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/284649


Curiously, the link to the Alliance for Natural Health, Europe as quoted in the above article states:

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Some of the misinformation on Codex appears to be deliberately disseminated, while other parts are unwitting reproductions of the misinformation by concerned yet naive individuals. Among the common erroneous facts are:

* All nutrients (eg. vitamins and minerals) are to be considered toxins/poisons and are to be removed from all food because Codex prohibits the use of nutrients to ‘prevent, treat or cure any condition or disease’.

* All food (including organic) is to be irradiated, thus removing all ‘toxic’ nutrients from food (unless consumers can source their food locally).

* Nutrients allowed will be limited to a Positive List developed by Codex; it will include such ‘beneficial’ nutrients as fluoride (3.8 mg daily), sourced from industrial waste.

* All nutrients (eg. vitamins A, B, C, D, zinc and magnesium) that have any positive health impact on the body will be deemed illegal in therapeutic doses under Codex and are to be reduced to amounts negligible to health, with maximum limits set at 15% of the current Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA). You will not be able to obtain these nutrients in therapeutic doses anywhere in the world, even with a prescription.

* It will most likely be illegal to give any advice on nutrition (including in written articles posted online and in journals as well as oral advice to a friend, a family member or anyone).

* All dairy cows on the planet are to be treated with Monsanto's genetically engineered, recombinant bovine growth hormone (rBGH).

* All animals used for food are to be treated with potent antibiotics and exogenous growth hormones.

* Use of growth hormones and antibiotics will be mandatory on all livestock, birds and aquacultured species meant for human consumption.

* The worldwide introduction of unlabelled and deadly GMOs into crops, animals, fish and plants will be mandated.

These are big claims indeed. They are also deeply worrying for anyone who cares about managing his or her health naturally, be it by consuming copious quantities of wholesome, organic whole foods or taking lashings of supplementary vitamins, minerals and herbs — or both. The problem is that these claims are not all true. Some are actually quite far off the mark, yet most contain elements of truth.

http://www.anhcampaign.org/campaigns/codex#Misinformation


Another interesting piece of information is that without naming "Dr. Rima Laibow", the article above addresses every dirty point that she is selling ... Shocked

Like AJ, it sucks that people like her can cause divides in the real health reform movement ... enough said ... you decide. But then again you can watch Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theories for the answers ... I'm not saying that this is a good thing ... it's just disinfo ...

Check out Fintan's interview with Dr. Robert Verkerk,
Director of the Alliance for Natural Health ...

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=23480&highlight=verkerk#23480

Just saying ... Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So then, is the op perhaps to hard-sell awful stuff that never materializes, such as AJ and his warnings of "jack-booted thugs" on the streets in the coming Police State, when in reality they don't need those guys to have an authoritarian police state? And as long as people don't see them, then they'll assume everything's just hunky dory, we all panicked for no reason, and there is no Police State?

That's the same theory as the Big Brother ruse, in that no giant posters of some guy's head means a dictatorship never materialized, so we can all relax now.

I have to admit, it's all crap I could see being pushed through. Big Pharma is going to have to do something someday about holistic cures and herbal remedies. It's bad for the bottom line. Maybe they're just going to count on their MSM manipulation and brainwashing, like they've been.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not implying that Codex is dead ... it's still on the table. The time lines pushed by the disinfo agents are just that ... disinfo. Your analogy of jack booted thugs in the streets today is not too far off the mark. Time is on our side and creating a theoretical outcome can only serve the creators of the outcome ... Idea

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one is saying it's dead, particularly that natural health site.

How's this for an op within an op: she's pushing extremist versions of Codex, the natural health people calm everyone's fears about the exaggerations, and eventually all those exaggerations eventually happen anyway, because no one was really paying attention. The whole op is to render the worst case scenarios into the realm of urban legends. (Okay, I've had some coffee.)

That natural health site bugs me too - looks so well-funded. And I find it hard to believe that all those kinds of entities are going to have to accept big corporate funding to stay afloat, if they aren't already. And then the info will be as trustworthy as AJ.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.healthfreedomusa.org frequently links to Mike Adams.
http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=362
As does hate website rebelnews.com Wink

The Natural News Op is well laid out here in other threads.

What indeed is the deal with codex?

http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp

So.... boring...

Note that their own officially hosted video has received about one star.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone,
this is my first post so please excuse me if my forum etiquette is not up to par just yet Smile

Just got into a new healthy lifestyle/diet regimen lately and following some advice to gobble up some vitamin supplements to help improve my health , I started researching online re supplements in general.

I was shocked when I stumbled across an article for the the UK Express newspaper and it looks like the Codex you guys were talking about is well and truly on its way regards Europe

Article is here:
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/163813/EU-meddling-with-health-food-stores-puts-4-000-jobs-at-risk

I've since listened to the Fintan's show and found it quite shocking that this could actually come to pass. Yikes !

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=23480&highlight=verkerk#23480

Does anyone know if Australia /NZ are opting out of this Codex crap ?

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