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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:03 pm    Post subject: John Kerry Admits 2004 Election Sellout Reply with quote

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With many people convinced that John Kerry sold out the American
people in 2004 by not challenging the clearly fraudulent and pivotal
Bush vote in Ohio, Kerry's reported comments to Afghan president
Karzai are troubling to say the least.


The Associated Press reports:

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A senior American official briefed on the meetings by Sen. John Kerry
gave The Associated Press details of the negotiations with Karzai. The
talks lasted late into several nights, continued through endless meals and
went on for hours each day.....

[Karzai] needed several more hours of convincing, including a long walk
with Kerry on the Presidential Palace grounds.

During the extended stroll, the official said, Kerry opened up to Karzai,
telling him about his own difficult decision not to challenge the vote
count in Ohio on election night in 2004
. There were allegations of voting
irregularities in favor of incumbent President George W. Bush, and Kerry
told Karzai that he knew he could have held up a final outcome
for
weeks by filing a challenge.

The official said Kerry told Karzai that he had decided then that a challenge
was "not in the interests of an already divided and politically
weary country
."

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Perhaps it would be better phrased that a challenge was:
"not in the interests of the power elite in Washington
"

Comments by John Edwards the day after the election had given hope
to Democratic activists that Kerry was standing firm against election fraud:

"John Kerry and I made a promise to the American people that in this
election every vote would count and every vote would be counted.
Tonight we are keeping our word and we will fight for every vote.
You deserve no less.
"

But the Kerry campaign's subsequent actions seemed to me to be less
than a full commitment to challenge the result. The policy looked like
one of appeasing activists with weasel words, while not really delivering.


John Kerry has made a mockery of democratic politics and is hardly the
person to advise Karzai about disputed elections. Or maybe it would be
better to say that one of the two 'John Kerry's is making a mockery
of democracy. After all there seem to be at least two people
wandering the world stage calling themselves John Kerry.

The first of the John Kerry's was involved in some duplicitous maneuvers
in the controversial aftermath of the 2004 Presidential Election.

I wrote a story about this on Christmas eve 2004, even as lawsuits over
the official outcome in Ohio were working their way through the courts.

When Daniel Hoffheimer, the lawyer representing the Kerry campaign in
Ohio made a statement which made it look like there was determination
to mount a strong challenge, I pounced on the comment. My aim was to
force the Kerry campaign off the fence of ambiguity and into the
battleground of Ohio's fraud-ridden vote:

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Kerry Preparing Grounds to Unconcede

BreakForNews.com, 24th Dec, 2004 23:00ET
by Fintan Dunne, Editor EXCLUSIVE

If you haven't been following John Kerry closely, get ready to hear of surprising developments. The vote-defrauded, potential president-in-waiting has just indicated through his lawyer that the validity of George Bush's reelection is no longer a given.

On 23 December, 2004 Kerry's lawyer confirmed to MSNBC's 'Countdown' that John Kerry will be seeking (likely on Monday 27 Dec.) to expedite court proceedings and secure evidence in an ongoing recount suit by the Green and Libertarian parties. That might sound like just another "count every vote" exercise by the Kerry campaign, were it not for two important details.

Kerry's court filing will conjoin him to existing allegations that Triad GSI, a Republican-linked supplier of voting machines to around half of Ohio counties --"orchestrated" a covert campaign to thwart a legitimate recount in Ohio. If the allegation proves well founded, it could invalidate the Ohio recount and eventually even hand the presidency to John Kerry.

Which probably explains the second critical detail: a quiet, on the record bombshell statement to 'Countdown' by Daniel Hoffheimer, the Cincinnati lawyer representing the Kerry campaign in Ohio.

Previously, the Kerry Campaign's intent in Ohio seemed to be merely an exercise of American civic spiritedness.

Two weeks ago, when Kerry wrote to Ohio's 88 county boards of election asking to visually inspect some ballots, Donald McTigue, the lawyer handling the recount for the Kerry campaign said: "We're trying to increase the transparency of the election process."

In early December, when the Kerry Campaign joined a suit by Green and Libertarian party candidates seeking a recount in Delaware County, Daniel Hoffheimer said Kerry wasn't disputing President Bush's victory in Ohio. The aim was to make sure any recount was "done accurately and completely," Hoffheimer said.

Now MSNBC 'Countdown' reports the same Hoffheimer, in comments on their imminent filing in the Ohio recount, concluding their call for a scrupulous recount with this caveat:

"...Only then can the integrity of the entire electoral process and the election of Bush/Cheney warrant the public trust."

That's the first time the Kerry Campaign has impugned the legitimacy of Bush's reelection......

Full Article:
http://www.breakfornews.com/articles/KerryPreparingGroundsToUnconcede.htm

My highlighting of the Kerry lawyer's comment ripped through the
Democratic party activist community over the Christmas weekend.
And by the following Monday 27th December, 2004 the Kerry campaign
was forced off the fence --and onto the wrong side of the issue.

That was when everyone finally realized that Kerry and Edwards were not
really challenging the Bush/Cheney alleged victory. The letdown came via
an official statement on Keith Olberman's Countdown show that night.


Olberman made a veiled reference to my article, partly calling me a
'conspiracy theorist', but also partly acknowledging that I was actually
right to hold the Kerry campaign to account for the statement made.

From Olberman's comments and the Kerry campaign response, it's clear
that he had sent them my article, seeking a response:

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Last Thursday night, his lead attorney on the ground in Ohio, Daniel J. Hoffheimer, issued a statement that constituted the third or fourth eyebrow-raiser from the Kerry camp in the post-election period.

In announcing that the Kerry-Edwards group would join the bid in Federal District Court in Ohio to preserve all "evidence" from the election and recount there, Mr. Hoffheimer said, on behalf of the senators, that such preservation was necessary because, "Only then can the integrity of the entire electoral process and the election of Bush-Cheney warrant the public trust."

This evening, after several Web columnists and bloggers joined me in questioning the bluntness of the phrase (one even wildly claiming this was a precursor to a Kerry "un-concession"), Hoffheimer changed his tone.

Mr. Hoffheimer advised us by e-mail:

"I would caution the media not to read more into what the Kerry-Edwards campaign has said, than what you hear in the plain meaning of our comments. There are many conspiracy theorists opining these days. There are many allegations of fraud. But this presidential election is over. The Bush-Cheney ticket has won. The Kerry-Edwards campaign has found no conspiracy and no fraud in Ohio, though there have been many irregularities that cry out to be fixed for future elections. Senator Kerry and we in Ohio intend to fix them. When all of the problems in Ohio are added together, however bad they are, they do not add up to a victory for Kerry-Edwards. Senator Kerry's fully-informed and extremely careful assessment the day after the election and before he conceded remains accurate today, notwithstanding all the details we have since learned."


The problem is, of course, that it was not some great, conspiracy-based, tin-foil-hat, piece of linguistic gymnastics, to infer from the conclusion to Mr. Hoffheimer's Thursday statement, that the Kerry-Edwards campaign did not believe that "the integrity of the entire electoral process and the election of Bush-Cheney" warranted the public trust. It is, in fact, to use Mr. Hoffheimer's phrase, "the plain meaning" of the first statement.

How do I know that? To borrow Chairman Sam Ervin's answer to that same question, as posed by John Ehrlichmann at the Senate Watergate hearings in 1973: "Because I can understand the English language. It's my mother's tongue."

The Kerry campaign spent much of 2004 being accused by its critics of trying to be all things to all people. It seems poised to continue to wear the bull's eye well into the New Year.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6667405


Apparently it's vital that the Afghan people have confidence in the
validity of their democratic process, but it's perfectly alright for the
American people to be denied their democratic mandate in 2004.

One John Kerry thinks that every vote should be counted. Another John
Kerry reckoned in 2004 that Bush unquestionably won. A John Kerry
half-challenged the result in Ohio. And finally, a person reputed to be
John Kerry has now advised Karzai that the American people were
too politically weary to bother them with issues like theft of elections.

Will the REAL John Kerry please stand up?

Probably not.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There it is folks.....I smell an audio concerning the US's 'one party, two party state' (or something to that effect) coming lol. This is incredible news which substatiates BFN's accurate analysis, excellent find Smile.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This story is a bit like announcing with great drama that the sun rose this morning.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With due respect to Fintan, who long ago pointed out how criminal Kerry did his thing for the 'one party twoparty' system.
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