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IronClad



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BBC2 programme Modern Spies featured a sting operation which is generally associated with the FBI.

This is obviously speculation but the FBI and others who operate sting operations to infiltrate terrorist groups or wannabes must be experts in putting a man in to introduce an "arms dealer" who offers to supply light and even heavy weapons and eventually catch the wannabe terrorist in the criminal act because these wannabes are either pretty stupid or dumbed-down after being educated in the west. With all the training in Afghanistan or Pakistan you'd think they would know about these sting operations on day one and in any event would have secure channels for the supply of weapons.

But heck, what do I know. I know that many of these sting operation don't feel kosher - do they. It's just a feeling. They never seem to lead to a Mr. Big being put away, do they.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently we missed this:


Anatomy of a Massacre - Afganistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkyvKuFuEs4

Sorry, embedding disabled by request.
Not endorsing, just started watching.
Edit: finished, worth watching. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is something terribly wrong with these 10 year long "wars". 10 years of being on battle stations and 10 years of being IED fodder. And not a political solution in sight. Evidence enough that things are what they are intended to be. They are still wearing "hard hats" after 10 years.

No hearts and minds tactics here.
No winning the respect of the Iraqi civilians.
No improvements made to the lives of the people.
Those who refuse to go back are claiming it is a useless war.
If the troops were assisting the civilians to improve their lives it would work both ways. The troops would have a purpose whilst they were there and would feel good about themselves.

Who is there to blame? The militaary top brass who are not calling out for a political solution. The top brass who must feel the military can provide the solution. Or the top brass who are carrying out orders of those who have the intention that things should remain as they are.

There is an agenda. It is not a policy of hearts and minds and it is not to find a political solution. And apparently it's not to leave the countries.

Is it to keep the troops pinned down fighting useless wars so that business can do what they do best and that is to make money.

The troops are to keep everyone else busy besides the private military company staff so that they can do their protection duties undisturbed whilst the companies that hire them conduct their business.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apologies...this is not directly related to the topic,
only somewhat, seems appropriate enough here.

Seen snippets of this video for the hit Katy Perry
song and decided to watch the whole thing to
see how far the propaganda goes...
All I can say is wow...this actually made me physically
ill and vehemently angry. Vicious propaganda techniques in action here...
Fuck Katy Perry...

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Message is if you can't hack it in civilian life join the army and be , a someone and be your own person and learn to get along with others who rely on each other for staying alive.

Couldn't understand though the significance of hiding the breasts since she was joining an army that allowed females in.

May be Bri, a woman's take on this video might enlighten us men as to why she had to do that. She seems to think hiding her feminity was required to get signed up in the military.

Seems, if you can't be someone in civilian life be someone in the military.

Anyway, your follow up to my post is as good as anything anyone else has offered.

May be its a message to our youth. And that says it all about those who run things around here.
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah - I saw it too.
And couldn't believe it.

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FUCK KATY PERRY
FOR A WAR-MONGERING BITCH


Sorry, I haven't any fonts larger than that.

I hope the c**t got plenty of money for the sellout,
and then goes on to shoot all of it up her arm in H,
and die as horribly as the murdered Iraqi civilians.

I sent feedback:

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just Breaking........

No comment really necessary.
This is pretty self-explanatory:

Quote:
Afghan peace negotiator shot dead in Kabul attack

Updated: 07:48, Sunday, 13 May 2012

Gunmen have shot dead a top Afghan peace negotiator in Kabul, police
said, dealing a massive blow to the country's attempts to negotiate a
peace deal with Taliban insurgents.


Maulvi Arsala Rahmani was one of the most senior members on
Afghanistan's High Peace Council, set up by President Hamid Karzai two
years ago to open talks with insurgents.

"He was stuck in heavy traffic when another car beside him opened fire,"
said General Mohammad Zahir, head of the investigations unit for Kabul
police.

Rahmani, a former Taliban minister, was on his way to a meeting
with lawmakers and other officials in a government-run media centre in
the heavily barricaded diplomatic centre of Kabul.

"His driver did not immediately realise that Rahmani had been killed,"
police official Zahir told Reuters, adding that no one had been arrested in
connection with the shooting.

The head of the peace council and former Afghan president, Burhanuddin
Rabbani, was assassinated by a suicide bomber last year
.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0513/afghan-peace-negotiator-shot-dead-in-kabul-attack.html

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A car is not the most maneouvrable for an assassin except in a traffic jam because it too can get stuck in it and be out of place. And a getaway has to be planned too. Was this part of the body guard escort? Did he even have an escort. Was it even a armoured vehicle.

You would think that security would be tight around this VIP and to get caught up in a traffic jam has to be a no-no in the security hand book.

Was this made to look like a inside job?

A car would hide the identity of the perps.

Motorcycles are generally used if the involvement needs to be a terrorist act.
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How come every single straightforward event turns into
an opportunity for you to reflexively second-guess it?

If it rained you would say that the rain is not really falling down...
....instead..... the Earth is rising up.

Like your idea that Sarkozy deliberately goofed up his
presidency so that Hollande could win this election:

Quote:
As the story goes he had immediately gone to a posh restaurant...

So I'm putting to you the proposition Sarkozy was playing a part with the
intention of turning the people against him and what he stood for - being
the first act in the stage play that brought the new president into power.
A forgone conclusion.

If getting a french Socialist elected was the goal, wouldn't it have been
simpler if Sarkozy goofed up before the election five years ago in
which he became president?

So let's use that "second guessing" approach on your own posts.

So I'm putting to you the proposition that your posts are not genuine.
But designed to smokescreen and simply sow confusion on the forum.

How bout that!

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Kerry threw in the towel before the fight was over. Delivering a knock out punch to the Democrats.

The French political system may still want to keep the idea of the two party system and even may have wanted Sarkozy to put in place certain programs that would be easy for the right to do. Also the left have come back with new vigue and the masses behind them with hopes for the future. Now the French know they have a president for the people after example of one that was not.

Good cop, bad cop. A vivid contrast always influences the people but first they need disallusionment [which the French obviously got from day one - did Sarkozy tenure change during his term?] before they come flooding back to the left to bail them out from a bailout.

May be it was too obvious that Sarkozy tenure was a staged event but what followed would have but it beyond any doubt.

Sarkozy throwing in the towel would have been easier but this would have been as subtle as Kerry's pulling out the fight.
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've prepared the following Afghan analysis drawing
on a variety of western and local media reports.


To paraphrase the infamous words of "suicided" Iraq weapons inspector
Dr. David Kelly: events in Afghanistan and Pakistan continue to be
dominated by "many dark actors."

- Fintan


NATO's Afghanistan supply lines remain blocked by Pakistan following
a high level meeting of Afghan, Pakistani and ISAF military commanders
on Sunday.


Pakistan's Army contingent was led by General Ashfaq Pervaiz Kayani who
met with ISAF commander General John Allen and Afghan National Army
Chief of General Staff General Sher Muhammad Karimi, said the public
relations office of the Pakistan ISI.

General Kayani insisted that a Pakistani parliamentary working group
had made recommendations and it was for the government to decide
the fate of the stalled supply to NATO.

The supply line has been blocked by Pakistan after a NATO/ISAF attack
almost six months ago killed 24 Pakistani soldiers. Pakistani officials
demanded an unconditional apology. But Washington refused and
Islamabad retaliated by cutting off NATO ground supply routes to
international forces in Afghanistan. In return, the U.S. withdrew as
much as $3 billion of promised military aid.

Islamabad is also demanding an end to NATO drone strikes, arguing they
are counter-productive because they kill civilians, exacerbate anti-U.S.
sentiment and violate sovereignty. A resolution of the impasse is likely to
await an upcoming NATO summit in Chicago in a weeks time.

ASSASSINATION

Last month Islamabad, Washington and Kabul agreed to provide ‘safe
passage’ to Taliban militants willing to join reconciliation talks and the
three sides agreed to coordinate their activities at the UN for removing
Taliban leaders from the sanctions list of the Security Council.


But even as the three military commanders were meeting, Taliban
defector Maulvi Arsala Rahmani was assassinated Sunday in a drive-by
shooting in the Afghan capital Kabul.

Reports from Kabul say Rahmani was executed by a single bullet, fired
from a gun fitted with a silencer, as the mullah drove to work at the peace
council.

Once deputy minister of higher education during Taliban rule, he is the
latest member of the country’s High Peace Council to be assassinated.

In an interview last year, Rahmani said the Taliban were fighting because
talking peace gets them nowhere. The Taliban announced this March they
were suspending putative peace talks.

Rahmani accused Washington of raising new obstacles to negotiations
instead of releasing jailed insurgents and removing Taliban leaders from
a United Nations blacklist.

No group has claimed responsibility for his murder, and the Taliban have
denied involvement, but his murder as the three military commanders met
yesterday is unlikely to have been coincidental.

The perpetrators remain shrouded in the murky politics of the region.

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