Nature by numbers = 5th GOSPEL of THOMAS = Fibonacci 112358

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wouldn't this imply a quantization effect? that the interstellar medium - the aether - is quantized. that's a rhetoric question as the aether, or space is quantized. but a superficial take on the above would give an odd result. like what about the random distribution of molecular clouds and dust?

ok, let us have some heavy revies (as born agains used to say). what say you concerning Justin's thread on number? any aspect. i like those mirrors or reversals. same with words; devil - lived.

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somewhere roundabout here. that's ok, i thought you might've hit that already.

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my spin is widdershin. no reflection on your pattern recognition skills...
but felt compelled to mention the book "deceptions and myths of the bible" by L. Graham. has some bad reviews simply due to the lack of sources. but his angle, which seems to be as valid as any, is that most subsequent myths to Creation Myths, are more or less Literary accretion. i've also "gospel fictions" and "christ conspiracy". all these combined seem to have too good of an argument against the "pious fraud". if there are truths, they're usually easily demonstrated as lifts from earlier sources. of course, that's the rule in most genres, especially mystical-magickal.

venus as the star seems plausible. that is, it's astounding that this may be the first time i've seen this written by someone. it's always some other spectacular contrivance.
but another item which is evidence of the depth of propaganda is that 2k years back "bethlehem" wasn't really on the map. or was that nazareth? either way, so much is false, histo-archeologically speaking.

what we need now is how these two waves work with the human aura and chakra system. i did see a brief take on that but was too brief.

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In many decks both CARD X and CARD XXI display the 4 Gospels/Evangelists/Beasts/Equinox and Solstice constellations.

Here is the criticism that Paul Foster Case had about the design A.E. Waite employed.
PF Case in his book attempts to expose the 'blinds' (intentional misinformation) that Waite employed in his, the most popular tarot deck, Rider-Waite.

I love what he writes about CARD XXI, especially this part...

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hi. i think the 4 fixed stars are simply perception based reference points. maybe some enochian entity will tell me otherwise.

i like the word widdershin and things related. maybe not the counter clocking but the old culture. widder = cool. Vidar = "survivor" of Ragnarok. let's identify with figures who get through...

well now, for sometime i've wondered about 2 and 5, simply due to their graphic similarity. just flip one of them over....it's just the right angle on the five - depending on the person's style. hmm, that little right angle may be indicating the angle or tetrahedron (energy point). or! the square, as in astrological square...

have wanted to ask this; Geburah; the Destroyer, 5, pentagram/gon, mars, red, catabolic, severity, the scourge.... now how does this hermetic kabbalist list jibe with the pentagram which comes from nested phi spirals? or another way, how does this martial-ness jibe with the creative (and cooperative) nature of the pentagram/gon?
how the hell is 5 (and apple cores) connected with mars!? one book i have has geburah corresponded to the throat chakra. i think others have mercury here.
but the throat fits a bit as it's a mediator, similar to but unlike tipareth.

i like my other thought about astrological squares. but it still doesn't seem to resonate with the weaving of pentagrams (into form). guess it depends on your reference point!

the thing stumping me concerning the human subtle system is this idea of the diamond body. a supposed newly formed octahedron like enegy matrix. think it's outside the aura. not that in itself, but how the chakras - the spinning wheels - fit into or through that octahedron.
now all this Could be a new agey rehash of our old egg shell shaped arua...which is in essence a torus. it may be that each chakra has it's own torus/shell, encompassing the body. spheres within spheres indeed.
so sound. well as we've both noted, it's the same as light, just displaced as it were. and that harmonic displacement is truly functional! it's like the two arms of the body in that they work together to do stuff.

oh yes, significance. 2 (3) and 5 are very important square roots. 8 is the whole, or octave based multiverse. 1 we need as it underlies the 8 and all else.

there done. next! let's see... 1 (or 11) 258 = ABEH or KBEH...BE A H or K...BE a HA - manifest into form (ha; red earth). A BE or BE A is seemingly similar to I AM. but we've also the potential for BAh and KAh.... we must add the 3 or C; more games.

it would be nice to see some internal fruit from all this.
back to widder. this is where one can/might be able to find magickal power. it's not in which grimoire or system is better. it's about heart resonance. for me, runes and the like are almost alive due to their Cultural charge. just looking at a string of runes is a turn on. they are filled with ancestral impressions, if not pure polarized (thoughtform) energy.

so what am i saying? "...". could add that 5 is in the middle of 10. just as M is in the middle of the alphabet. and we know what M and or Mem is about. i've looked for corroboration elsewhere but haven't found any. to me, they both seem to indicate the fullest extension of a cycle - at the start of the recursion.

edit, found more correspondences for geburah in Lisiewski's kabbalistic cycles; power, force, "the radical intelligence" (forgot that one!), note the root rad(ial). "construction or deconstruction"= reference point. so vigorous growth, as in nesting and expanding spirals. or visa versa, along with charge (= magnetism or emotion?) making gravity.
well i guess we're getting closer to a grok... 4 or cube is leaning towards stability. 6 is more balance. seems the other close relative might be 3, binah and the triangle. so no coincidence geburah is right under binah and over hod, which makes 3-5-8. 8 may complete a loop like with the lemniscape....
ha, i just checked the spelling on that term to find pics with the search result. look what's there; http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&q=lemniscape+&btnG=Google+Search
both glyphs. that is, your flyfot and my pentagram. wasn't what i expected to see. but the other pics made a connection for me; a lemniscape appears to be (like) a strange attractor.

well it's funny how we've these recurring numbers and solids....while John Dee's channeled system has mostly heptagons/grams. 7. to each his own. Hail Chaos...

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