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Killtown
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| Rumpl4skn wrote: | Interesting, in more ways than one.
So now - since this woman is an "eyewitness" to there being an actual plane in the air that crashed that day - we're being asked to trade proof of Val's photo fakery for more proof that a large jet did indeed crash in Shanksville.
I don't think the photo issue is that important, compared to assigning validity to an "I swear, I saw it crash!" witness.
If I hadn't started the whole thing myself, I'd be convinced this photo thing is a deliberate red herring. (Is there such a thing as Researcher's Remorse?) |
Hi Rumple!
I got to admit I'm a little taken back by your post.
I don't think you should read too much into Ms. Leverknight's saying she saw a plane because I do believe they did some sort of flyby to fool the witnesses. She only saw something flying in the air, but not crash because the trees would have been blocking her view.
But regardless, it's only relevant to Val's photo if the photo a real shot of something blowing up. If Val's photo is fake (which most truthers think and also Ms. Leverknight), than whether Ms. Leverknight saw a plane, or not, is entirely irrelevant.
What's important about Ms. Leverknight's claim is that she knows WHY it was fake; "because it didn't have a mushroom cloud".
Before this call, I had never thought Val took a photo on 9/11. I speculated she took one before or after. But the claim Val's original didn't have a mushroom cloud in it makes sense as to why after Val printed off a copy and took it to the police, the FBI then sent 3 agents to her house to confiscate all the evidence (her memory card and hard drive).
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Grumpy
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Killtown
I must be thankful for the opportunity to express my limitless disgust for everything you have done and that you represent. As slimeballs go, you are the epitome of the type.
Since nothing you have ever said or done has any real value, I have nothing I wish to waste my time discussing with you, just wanted to register with you the depths I think you have reached.
Fuck you, very much.
Grumpy 
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O dear, taken to drinking and swallowing the pain tablets together eh Grumpy? aAzzAa |
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SidVicious
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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agent v agent
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RockDock
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Grumpy wrote: | Killtown
I must be thankful for the opportunity to express my limitless disgust for everything you have done and that you represent. As slimeballs go, you are the epitome of the type.
Since nothing you have ever said or done has any real value, I have nothing I wish to waste my time discussing with you, just wanted to register with you the depths I think you have reached.
Fuck you, very much.
Grumpy |
Killtown, meet Grumpy. Grumpy, Killtown.
Grumpy is the resident "pro-science-there-is-nothing-to-see-here-folks-move-along" troll.
Killtown is a recent addition to the CIA-Suspects list. 
Surely you two are paid by the same people? No? |
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Grumpy
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Rock Doc
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Grumpy
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RockDock
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Grumpy wrote: | Rock Doc
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Competing alphabet agencies? Say it isn't so.
You guys remind me of the Spy vs. Spy section of Mad magazine, back in the day.
As Sid said earlier, "agent v agent." |
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Killtown
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RockDock
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:17 am Post subject: |
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I tend to agree with R4S's analysis and will come down on the "fake" side of things.
The entire story of amateur pilots navigating heavy jets across thousands of miles of eastern US, finding their targets and crashing into them stinks of rotten fish.
Why should this little piece of the puzzle (the photo) be any less stinky? |
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moylan
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| RockDock wrote: | I tend to agree with R4S's analysis and will come down on the "fake" side of things.
The entire story of amateur pilots navigating heavy jets across thousands of miles of eastern US, finding their targets and crashing into them stinks of rotten fish.
Why should this little piece of the puzzle (the photo) be any less stinky? |
Assuming the photo is genuine does not equate to endorsing the notion that hijackers who couldn't fly a Cessna managed to pull off the attack. The same faulty logic is at work in the 'no-planes' disinfo. |
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Lord Carpainter
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| moylan wrote: | | RockDock wrote: | I tend to agree with R4S's analysis and will come down on the "fake" side of things.
The entire story of amateur pilots navigating heavy jets across thousands of miles of eastern US, finding their targets and crashing into them stinks of rotten fish.
Why should this little piece of the puzzle (the photo) be any less stinky? |
Assuming the photo is genuine does not equate to endorsing the notion that hijackers who couldn't fly a Cessna managed to pull off the attack. The same faulty logic is at work in the 'no-planes' disinfo. |
Moylan, do you believe that the photo is genuine? |
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moylan
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:23 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, the photo is genuine. This entire discussion is a side-issue, or rather a non-issue. How familiar that sounds. |
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Lord Carpainter
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| moylan wrote: | | Yes, the photo is genuine. This entire discussion is a side-issue, or rather a non-issue. How familiar that sounds. |
1. Why do you believe it to be genuine?
2. Are you aware of the evidence that it isn't genuine? |
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Lord Carpainter
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Addition to #2
If so, what is your rebuttal to this evidence? |
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moylan
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Who Cares? |
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Lord Carpainter
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| If you don't care, how do you seem to know enough to call the photo genuine? |
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