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atm



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just stumbled across this, a classic if ever there was one:

http://rattube.com/blog1/2007/03/02/no-doubt-about-it-another-paid-witness/

FFS.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reinventing the wheel Reply with quote

Fintan may have amnesia, but five years ago Gerald Holmgren's analysis did a pretty good job on no-plane-hit-pentagon:
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/holmgren/index.html
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Lord Carpainter



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CASE BREAKING EVIDENCE OF NO PLANE AT PENTAGON

There is a contradiction between this photograph and the official account:



This photo was taken before the outer wall collapsed. It gives us a clear view of the undamaged lawn. According to the official version, Flight 77 was 'very low to the ground'.

Unfortunately, that is impossible. A clear look at this photo shows that the ground was not disturbed. How could a commercial airplane fly 'very low to the ground' at 530 miles per hour and the grass not show any disturbance?

This is, of course, impossible, and conclusively proves that anyone who claimed they saw the plane hit or scratch the ground is either mistaken or lying. It also shows that the official version is wrong. Flight 77 could not have flown 'very low to the ground', but for that to be, it would be impossible for it to create the damage it did!

The impact hole was on the ground floor of the Pentagon. To create that hole, Flight 77 would have had to have been flying very low to the ground, as the official version states, yet the photos of the grass show no disturbance, proving this impossible.

CONCLUSION:

Flight 77 could not have hit the Pentagon
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CASE BREAKING EVIDENCE OF NO PLANE AT PENTAGON #2



While the foam covers the gash in the first floor, that's not what I ask you to focus on. I ask you to focus on the impact hole that we see. The tail section of a Boeing 757 is over 4 stories high. Why is there no damage above the hole?!

Some claim that it broke off, but we can't see it on the lawn. Some say that it hit and then exploded.. If that was the case, I would expect some visible damage above that hole.

The only explanation I can think of is that this hole was not made by a 757.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CASE BREAKING EVIDENCE OF NO PLANE AT PENTAGON #3



Here we will focus on the gash in the first floor of the Pentagon. Some claim that this was caused by the wings of the plane. However, there is a huge contradiction in that explanation!

If the wings caused this gash, why are some support columns still standing or hanging? Support columns that were directly in the way of the wings/engines are still hanging/standing!

A Boeing 757 has a wingspan of 124ft. It far exceeds the damage zone and if a Boeing 757 crashed, we would expect to see the support columns destroyed. Some might say that the wings hit the columns, damaging them, and then folded back and slid into the hole caused by the nose. Unfortunately, that just doesn't wash. One of the support columns in the path of the massive wings is still standing straight up, not destroyed.

This gash could not have been caused by the wings!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CASE BREAKING EVIDENCE OF NO PLANE AT PENTAGON #4

According to the official version, Flight 77 downed 5 light poles on it's way in. The flight data data suggests that the plane was too high to strike the lightpoles, but there is a much simpler contradiction here. One that proves that they could not have been knocked down by Flight 77.



Here is a photo of one of the light poles.. Now, this light pole slammed into the ground after having a Boeing 757 collide with it at 530 mph, wouldn't you expect some impact damage on the ground? It isn't just something you would expect. It is impossible for it to be absent. Why, then, is it absent in this photo? There is no indication that this slammed the ground at all.

This light pole could not have been hit by Flight 77!



Again, there is no evidence that this hit the ground with any kind of force. In fact, it looks to have been moved. There is a scratch trail visible, as if it was dragged across the ground.

Evidence that the light poles were planted!



This is the final light pole we will examine and the story behind this one is truly ridiculous. According to Lloyd England (Who admitted his wife worked for the FBI), this light pole slammed against his car and broke his windshield. There is a gaping hole in this testimony. A contradiction that tears it apart.

If an airplane hit that light pole at 530 mph and it slammed into England's taxi, I highly doubt that only the windshield would be damaged, and I would say it was impossible for the hood of the car to be pristine!

In each case, it is proven that the light poles could not have been slammed down by a plane going at 530 mph. The light poles were planted by hand!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CASE BREAKING EVIDENCE OF NO PLANE AT PENTAGON #5

Let's take a look at the eyewitness accounts.

This man did not see or hear a plane, yet he saw the ball of fire come up over the Pentagon. While it seems he was not in a position to see any kind of impact, I am troubled by the fact that he did not hear any plane noise. All he saw was an explosion. No plane noise prior.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg413s8QOAg

Both of these eyewitnesses report an explosion 'all of a sudden', mentioning no airplane sound prior.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Xrup9vrCQOM&...5F97EC&index=16

This eyewitness reports hearing the sound of the explosion and a vibration, but mentions no plane noise prior.
http://www.countypress.com/stories/082708/...080827076.shtml

Others thought that it was a bomb:

"For those formerly in the military, it sounded like a 2000lb bomb going off" Terry Morin
http://www.coping.org/911/survivor/pentagon.htm

"A bomb had gone off. I could smell the cordite. I knew explosives had been set off somewhere" Don Perkal
http://911review.com/attack/pentagon/witnesses.html

"Most people knew it was a bomb" John Bowman
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/jpdesm/pentagon/pages-en/dam-inside.html

"It smelled like cordite, or gun smoke" Gilah Goldsmith
http://web.archive.org/web/20040501101751/eric-bart.net/iwpb/witness.html#GoldsmithGilah1

"I knew it was a bomb or something" Mike Slater
http://web.archive.org/web/20040501101751/eric-bart.net/iwpb/witness.html#SlaterMike1

Many of these eyewitnesses reported an explosion with no plane noise prior:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/jpdesm/pentagon/pages-en/dam-inside.html

Remember that the Global Hawk is a quiet aircraft. Also remember that the part of the Pentagon that was hit was being 'renovated', giving the perps a perfect opportunity to plant explosives. We know that whatever caused the destruction was hard to hear. We are left with 4 possibilities.

1) A quiet aircraft like the Global Hawk was used

2) Bombs exploded inside

3) Hologram+explosion

4) Quiet aircraft+bombs
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moylan



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want to know what I think hit the Pentagon?

Big Bird. From Sesame Street.

I mean, it's obvious.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moylan wrote:
You want to know what I think hit the Pentagon?

Big Bird. From Sesame Street.

I mean, it's obvious.


Just how queer are you?
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Hombre



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hdog,

Actually it was his Moo's Sister that damaged the Pentagon. Something about the person in front of her at that " PITCH TILL YOU WIN " Buffet she eats at five times a week taking the last Deep Fried Twinkie.

When the manager told her: " Sorry we're all out " Well she just lost it and went on a suicidal rampage.

Hombre
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hdog just doesn't get the 9-11 Big Bird Truth thing. I think he's a Disinfo Agent...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's pretty obvious this board ain't gonna "crack 9/11."
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