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Jerry Fletcher
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 Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Rumple4skin wrote: | | Sorry for my lapse into CT world, but I've been studying this shit for 4 years now, and I have... feelings about it. Show me a real, non-CGI'd video of Flight 77 slamming the Pentagon, and I promice i'll STFU immediately, and then move on to my next demand (I have dozens). |
Problem is, if they do eventually release the footage, nobody is going to give a crap about your next demand.
They will, however, really enjoy lampooning you and your four wasted years of tinfoil delusion.
Remember that dude that thought the gov't tried to 'fake' a plane crash? |
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Rumpl4skn
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Jerry Fletcher wrote: |
Problem is, if they do eventually release the footage, nobody is going to give a crap about your next demand.
They will, however, really enjoy lampooning you and your four wasted years of tinfoil delusion. |
Not that I'm in a position to do so, but I'm daring them. I know they don't have it.
| Quote: | | Remember that dude that thought the gov't tried to 'fake' a plane crash? |
You lost me. 
They successfully faked on in Shanksville. So far.
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Continuity
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Rumpl4skn"] | Jerry Fletcher wrote: |
| Quote: | | Remember that dude that thought the gov't tried to 'fake' a plane crash? |
and Rump said:
You lost me. |
I think he's saying that'll be *us*, dude. 
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Rumpl4skn
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Okay.
Jerry, you should have put that last line in quotes then. Sheesh..... 
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Jerry Fletcher
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Not that I'm in a position to do so, but I'm daring them. |
All I'm saying is that it's obvious that our 'common sense' is being manipulated, and that I've been burned before relying on it in relation to 911.
These days, I'm just being more careful about putting all my credibility eggs in the basket of 'obvious' evidence presented by the HTB crowd.
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I know they don't have it. |
You know it, or feel strongly and believe it deeply?
I mean, they have the footage - there's cameras all over that place.
Something most likely hit the pentagon, therefore they have surveillance footage of the impact - all of it.
If released, all that footage has to do is look reasonably like what most people expect to see, and the '911 Conspiracy Craze' comes to an end along with Charlie Sheen's political career. |
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Continuity
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Jerry said:
I'm guessing HTB = 'Hunt the Boeing' ? Or is it?
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Jerry Fletcher
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah - sorry for launching into shorthand.
I'm so sick of typing the words 'no plane'.
Are we cool with using HTB as shorthand for 'Hunt the Boeing' and as euphemism in general for describing the 'No plane hit the pentagon' segment of the truth movement?
Thierry really kicked that one off, IMO. |
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Continuity
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Jerry asked: | Quote: | | Are we cool with using HTB as shorthand for 'Hunt the Boeing' and as euphemism in general for describing the 'No plane hit the pentagon' segment of the truth movement? |
Well - if we weren't before, we are now, Jerry.
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Rumpl4skn
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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I don't subscribe to "no plane." An aircraft of some sort hit the Pentagon. It just wasn't Flight 77, or even a normal, commercial 757.
That's another psy-op in regards to the Pentagon investigation. "Not Flight 77 = No Plane." The shills do that - anyone who denies the official version is a "no planer." I'm as tired of reading it as we are of typing it.
It's the same as the guy who called me a skinhead because I suspect the Rothschi|ds of being evil manipulators of society, simply because they are Jews. I don't care if they are Arabs, Incas or Eskimos. They uber-powerful pricks. Ths dishonest, illogical association op.
Do I know? As much as I (or we) KNOW the towers were imploded, maybe more so. Granted, if they fudged enough of the radar tracks and other data, then yes... I could be embarrassed. But if it's that deep, then we can trust nothing at all, and we may as well go home right now. Bush could be an audio-animatronics robot from Disney. The whole war in Iraq could be faked like a moon landing.
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Jerry Fletcher
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | But if it's that deep, then we can trust nothing at all, and we may as well go home right now. |
Good point.
The 'pricks' know that the human psyche freaks out over uncertainty, and will maintain a bottom line of 'rational belief' to preserve sanity - in fact, they anticipate our psychological reaction to preserve 'reality'.
That's why they get so much mileage out of nudging that bottom line a yard or two, especially when the same forces helped condition it's initial location.
IMO, psyop is more than just doing sneaky shit and lying about it - our reactions, both emotional and rational, are the real target, the actual goal, for therein lies the power of social control. The events themselves, IMO, are constructed with this in mind - manipulating people through their reactions to events. The psyop isn't the 'coverup. The psyop is how this nagging, yet subconsciously debilitating doubt conditions our behavior in the future.
So, I'm willing to willing to challenge even the 'obvious', cause then at least I know the only one fooling me is me.
That's why I'm all geeking out on this 'critical thinking' stuff, cause it uses words like math, completely without emotion, prejudice, or belief. It's laborious, and sometimes you have to begin by proving the sky is blue, and most people don't have the patience or interest.
The 'if-then' sentence construction makes you sound all Plato and shit, and it accessorizes perfectly with tinfoil in the 911 program for total social isolation. |
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Rumpl4skn
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Jerry Fletcher wrote: | | The 'if-then' sentence construction makes you sound all Plato and shit, and it accessorizes perfectly with tinfoil in the 911 program for total social isolation. |
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/46228
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Jerry Fletcher
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Rump wrote: | | That's another psy-op in regards to the Pentagon investigation. "Not Flight 77 = No Plane." The shills do that - anyone who denies the official version is a "no planer." I'm as tired of reading it as we are of typing it. |
Agreed. The fakes strongly frame the debate as 'Official Story' versus 'No Plane'. Frustrating. That is why I spend time thinking of confusing shit like this:
| I wrote: | | • If a 'plane-like' decoy hit the pentagon, then the evidence could be both consistent and inconsistent at the same time when used to support either of the false premises. Unfortunately, consistent enough for the official story, but not enough for you, me, or Thierry. |
So, I think we should try to name and define the theories, and what is particular to each, and what may be common to all as a starting point.
So, to define the 'no-plane' crowd, I was using the HTB shorthand. No plane is admittedly and intentionally confusing. Also the 'no plane' theory does include something hitting the pentagon, like global hawk or missle. No plane really means only no flight 77. So let's remove the identity of the thing, and just try to discuss the possibility of what thing. So how bout this:
THEORIES
A • OFFICIAL - An American Airlines 767 hit the pentagon.
B • HTB - A global hawk or missle hit the building.
C • DECOY - Something 'plane-like' hit the building that could be mistaken for a 767 visually, but wouldn't yield crash site evidence supporting that claim.
Now, if C were the case, and that 'plane like' footage exists, it makes strategic sense to focus the argument between A and B, then produce 'visual' evidence that makes the B people look like lunatics.
Anyway, you see what I'm sayin.... |
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Rumpl4skn
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Speaking of Theirry What'sHisName.... what's the deal with the fact that the first two bits of odd evidence that I, at least, was exposed to in regards to 9/11 - "Hunt the Boeing" and the video of Tower 1 being hit - both originated from the French?
Coincidence, or some sort of subtle psy-op? My only guess is - since the conservatards were always into their "France sucks" mode, did it prevent many of them accidentally buying into the Pentagon thing too soon? Or, did the fact that the instantly accepted Naudett Bros. video removed some anti-French prejudice, clearing the way for the Hunt the Boeing issue?
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| Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:43 am Post subject: |
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A pretty decent, and convincing, 3D simulation of flight 77 (or some other similar plane), and the damage it created before, and as it hit the Pentagon. (by Mike J. Wilson):
YouTube video >>
Download here>>
"It looked like a giant cruise missile with wings and a tail section....  "
"Dah, dude, that's a plane you're describing... :roll: "
At least some kind of plane...
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allheart
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| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject: Dov Zakheim and the Pentagon |
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Was Dov Zakheim (Pentagon comptroller in 9/11/2001) involved in the Pentagon attack in 9-11? Take a look at this:
http://judicial-inc.biz/Dov_Zakheim_Fl_77.htm |
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