What is Brand Nubian Spirit?

[tellytell]

Brand Nubian Spirit is everything we make it....

When this post was first made, it simply pointed to the Brand Nubians....

But lets expand it to include all of hip hop and the spiritual activism that makes hip hop what it is.....

It would be nice to know a little about the Brand Nubian Hip Hop group, and by starting there we can look deep into hip hop and find its core essence....



Starting with the Brand Nubian Video "Wake Up" and and returning to.....

their new album called, "times runnin out"....

We can see how hip hop, as the medium, IS the message!



http://rapalitos.blogspot.com/2007/08/brand-nubian-times-runnin-out-2007-vbr.html

[tellytell]

Why beings like Meher Baba and Grand Puba of the Brand Nubians do not vote is a testimony to everything the truth seekers at break for news are pointing out.

When this topic was first posted, we got into the whole thing about voting or not voting, we touched on the topic of mtv shows and artists telling people to vote....

And we started exploring the reasons why we need to get a new definition of RAP into the world that does not include HIP HOP in it.

Since we have discovered break for news, we have found that there is a big love for hip hop here.....

And some very key artists have presence here, in the form of songs or within topic talk.....

How can we expand on the topic of hip hop, as well as weave together the various views of hip hop that we have here?

Hip Hop is much like yoga, its vast, very vast and has been colonized by corporations.

It will take days to go through all the posts here, in efforts to cut and past meaningful posts and info that help us to dial in on some major hip hop contributions to the truth movement.....

I would like to use this thread to do that, and explore a few things about Hip Hop, how it can be expressed in healthy ways, and with a motivation to promote the artists dealing with difficult truths.....

I'd like to point out how hip hop has been functioning like a mirror to the world.... And if we look deeply at it, we can find new views about what is happening to us all, what has been happening and why its is so important to help the hip hop community, just like break for news is helping the activist community......

The truth seekers at Break for news may have what it takes to bring potentials into view that would get hip hop back on track for the better....

We must take a look at why and how it has been forced into the clubs, and where and how it can get its unity back!

Lets invite the yoga community into this effort and create a kind of comparable analyses, because the yoga crowd can do a better job of awakening to the difficult truths the hip hop people have been dealing with. And The hip hop crowd could work on a return to health and conscious living, taking a break from the party life for the better.

The practice of yoga and the way of happening called Hip Hop are like brothers and sisters, one soul expressing itself through all beings, a message from the infinite which is why it attracts and has attracted so many people in such strong ways.....

Corporations have confused people, and break for news people know how and why.

[Christophera]

[tellytell]

Both Grand Puba And Meher Baba Would Agree with what Chris said about the system and its corruption.....


Thank you for your reply and the input.....

the opening post was changed to expand on this thread rather than let it die. But you quoted something, which I would like to go back to for one second.

Namasteezy Records truly loves the Beastie Boys and believes they have done the most to turn around that party crowd they started so long ago, unawares, in their youth. Their efforts with the Free Tibet Concerts really completed their karma and brought wonderful people and projects into america.......

But they should have known that americans has been conditioned into a FUCK YOU state of mind..... People tend to not listen, regardless of who is talking.... its like they think NO is the way, regardless of how correct someone is. The Beasties got up on stage, on major TV and said don't vote for BUSH! But I think most of the people who were listening to them at the time simply couldn't hear the NO or "Don't and voted for Bush"

I think it might be one reason some in the past just promoted not voting, because they understood the condition of human mind among the average people on the gross plane..... They understood the Fuck You mind state they have been conditioned into....

The sad thing is that even after this most recent election, even after things getting tough on people enough to get that kind of twist and turn going.... Its still mostly a bunch of reaction......

What I fond interesting is how many true hip hop people were going around telling people NOT to vote! And you know what, I really think it caused people to vote, and by not telling them who not to vote for, they dialed into something they thought was a good sublimation.

Since we were on the topic of voting, and since the thread needed updating..... Lets take the focus off voting and put it onto spirituality. Since we are spiritual beings having physical experiences, we can explore the spirituality of hip hop and relate it to spiritual practices...... And use the thread to expand on spiritual activism, define it and remind hip hop and yoga people about the higher purpose in their movements....

Hip Hop long ago started turning toward the east, and we can all understand why........

Some of that turn was toward spiritual beliefs which included muslim practices....

Now lets use this thread to hold space outside of the habits people get into when talking about these inner directions....

Don't be quick to think or label things religion, or rap or this or that.....

We think the english language has been a trap, and that people have been caught in a manifestation, in a body that is filled with a soul that goes on and on....

But once american, we can see that the trap has been not just a language but a society that has forced its ways upon people across the globe, removing them from the knowledge of their past lives and their history...

But to get some results, lets step or leap back and look at the yoga/sufi histories of poetry, and movement....

And lets look at how natural these expressions are and lets look at how these movements have come about... And where they have gone...

And how it fits into the youth, even if they are children of sikh and sufi families....

Lets look at music distribution and even reopen the topics that Fintan has brought into view regarding the group called the Coup.....

We must look at the cosncious hip hop crowds and the rap crowds and everything in-between.... Fintan touched on something with the Coup but there is more there...... We must look at it all from the point of view of interdependent origination, the coup are not separate from the party crowd that supports them... But it may not be their fault to have to deal with them..... Who else listens? if you look outside of the rap crowd, you have gangster rappers and cowboy music fans, or pop music crowds...

What is hip hop if it is lives fully and truly? And has it been lived fully and truly? Namasteezy thinks it hasn't been lived yet, that it only got started...... Look at how skateboarding came and went and how it evolved.... A new generation of spirituality can reawaken it and express itself through it, if only people can see how that can be done... We believe that it can be done by bridging with the yoga and fiber arts into a way of happening that is rooted in the healthy side of living outside of the clubs..... But america has been run into the ground, and so that way of living hip hop is far from view here.....

Lets look at the old jazz activists and history of the jazz movements....

[Christophera]

[tellytell]

While we are on the topic of hip hop and activism, here is something Serch has brought into view, "When Waleed Coyote approached me with the idea of doing an album that brought together Palestinian and Jewish artists, his notion was that his people had to chill and my people had to build. I got goose bumps. We are a time when peace is such a premium that we are at the point of killing children. This war between the Palestinian and Jewish community has got to stop. We must be able to understand and respect each other and live in peace in the holy land. We can no longer afford to be separated by our religion, for we are all children of G-d. We are all here for just a small period of time, so why waste it with war? All the artists that have come together in this project and process see that. We need your help to make our stance known and heard. All the artists involved with these recordings have donated their time, energy, effort, and music for this project. I personally view this as a gift for me to be amongst these forward thinkers and great artists. 100 percent of the proceeds of this project are going to several orphanages in the Middle East that are trying to find homes for children who have lost their families in the war. Some of them were killed for just going out to shop. Some gave their lives in the pursuit of peace. Some of them were just thrown into the fists of war and did not know why.

Thank you for supporting this project and shout out to my G, Waleed Coyote for coming into my life. You are a light my dude and you make everyone around that much brighter. Thank you to Y-Love and Saz, it is great to have your work a part of this. To Mazzi aka Soul Purpose, you are a trooper young gunner; Sneakas Thank you as well. To Noose for not only a great song and message but a powerful video (Check you Tube). To my Detroit Camp, Kiss Productions and Hellavah. Hellavah, what can I say. I have not been that open on a track in a very long time. You are so talented and such a great dad, I wish nothing but great things for you. Thank you. To M.L. You are my brother from another mother, real talk. The time and effort you gave to this project, in the midst of all you were going through was just amazing. I love you brother and I hope that this mitzvot makes you as proud as I am. I loved being in the lab with you and hope we can do it again.

Love is love to all of you for supporting this worth cause."

- Serch

http://serchlitemusic.com/index.php

We looked around the label for something or someone in Namaspirit who has some of that in view, and we found Head roc has even been in the studio touching on the topics in his songs.... One, atleast, has become part of this project...


http://www.freethep.com/artists.htm

[tellytell]

iLL biLL - Society is Brainwashed
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4691

Lets start with Ill Bill.......

Yes, great, check it out, listen to it, yes, of the hip hop crowd.... Great find etc etc....

BUT, outside of the lyrics, what is conscious about ILL BILL? See the whole thing about hip hop is that many of these people are either into weed or into a hipster distribution network that is not exactly conscious in their business practices.....

They lack spirituality of another kind...... Something that must be lived and can be, but maybe there is no one to live it, or that way of living it is censored, and oppressed. Maybe the actual physical world of america is preventing it from happening, for reasons that include everything from rental laws, to who get abundance... Pretty much everything Fintan touches on in his treeincarnation topics, things that shape consciousness....

Maybe its called the "gross plane", or something out of view because fewer are on the subtle plane...... Many people have spoken of a trance and the causes of it, and how a few will not be in it or will naturally be free of it for karmic reasons....

This is all very hard to put words around because, like we say, its vast and within hip hop you can find so many expressions.... BUt we can point to leaders and pivotal happenings, tracks, groups and also look at the distribution aspects.

THE DISTRIBUTION ASPECTS IS THE KEY, ITS A BIG PART OF ALL OF THIS, SOMETHING THAT FEW WANT TO LOOK AT. YET THAT IS WHY WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT, IT DIALS IN ON WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR EYES, THE TECH TRENDS, THE RETAIL STORES AND THE DISTRIBUTION COMPANIES TOO. THE STORES ARE WHERE THE MIDDLE CLASS AMERICAN DREAM HAS FADED, PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR RETAIL POWER. THE SCENESTERS SEE NO "NEED" TO DO THINGS AGAINST THE GRAIN OF THE TECHIE TASTE MAKERS.... AND THE RETAIL HAVE TIES THAT GET INTO EXCLUSIVE CONTRACTS THAT WORK AGAINST THE PURPOSE OF BEING INDEPENDENT!

ARTISTS HAVE LOST THEIR ACTIVISM EDGE BECAUSE THEY NEED TO EAT, AND SO THINGS HAVE GOTTEN NUMBED DOWN... OR BECAUSE THEY ARE SO SECRET, THEY DON'T WANT TO BRING HEAT. SO THEY ARE NOT DOING THE WORK THEY SHOULD BE, THEY ARE NOT REFARMING THE SOIL THAT NEEDS HEALED, AND A TEN YEAR PROCESS OF DOING THAT IS TOO MUCH WORK FOR SELF GRASPING POT SMOKERS....

ITS EASY FOR THEM TO HANG OUT IN CLUBS, ITS THEIR HABIT. SO WHO DO THEY WORK FOR? MILLER BEER?

WHERE CAN WE FIND A CONSCIOUS POET CROWD IN A COUNTRY THAT HAS LOST THERE COFFEE HOUSES? THERE ARE NO PLACES TO GATHER.

REAL CULTURE NEEDS TO TAKE BACK ITS JUICE BARS, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT THEY NEED TO SURVIVE, ITS NO LONGER OK TO JUST EXIST IN SERVITUDE BY OWNING A JUICE BAR OR COFFEE HOUSE THAT SUPPORTS POETS.....

YOGA STUDIOS COULD HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT HUBS BUT INFILTRATED PREACTICE HAVE GUIDED PEOPLE INTO WORRY ABOUT ALIGNMENT OF THEIR ANKLE RATHER THAN THE ALIGNMENT OF THEIR THEIR PRACTICE TO THE TRUTH MOVEMENT.

THE CHRISTIAN BRAINWASHING HAS GOTTEN SO BAD THAT PEOPLE ARE TURNING ON BOTH YOGA AND HIP HOP. THEY ARE BEING TAUGHT THAT CHRIST DIDN'T WANT YOU TO DO YOGA.

BUT THEY CAN CARE LESS ABOUT A SKATEBOARDING PARTY CROWD THAT LISTENS TO CORPORATE RAP (THINKING ITS HIP HOP).......

AND SO THEY GET STUCK ON IMAGES RATHER THAN PRACTICE, THEY GET STUCK ON BIG CARS RATHER THAN THE UNITY OF A COMMUNITY THAT IS MOTIVATED BY SPIRITUAL UPLIFTMENT RATHER THAN MATERIAL FLASH......

PEOPLE END UP VERY WEALTHY, HAVING KIDS WORKING FOR YAHOO OR GOOGLE. OR THEY TATTOO THEIR FACE AND DO METH. WHERE DID THE MIDDLE PATH PEOPLE GO WHO COULD OPEN THEIR MINDS TO YOGA AT 3PM, AN ORGANIC TEA AT 4 AND HIKING THEN SOME MORE MEET UP THAT NIGHT FOR A SOBER MUSIC MEET UP?

THE FALSE IDEA OF SELF THAT AMERICA HAS BECOME HAS LOST TRACK OF FREEDOM, HOW TO CREATE IT, WHAT IT IS AND HOW ITS AN INTERDEPENDENT THING.....

WHERE DO YOU FIND HANDCRAFTED POTTERY IN A YOGA STUDIO?

WHERE DO YOU FIND A SKATEBOARD SHOP THAT DISTRIBUTES HIP HOP MUSIC?

NOW THAT EVERYTHING IS DEADICATING, YOU START TO FIND A FEW JOINTS THAT HAVE PEOPLE BRINGING THINGS TOGETHER LIKE THAT, BUT MOSTLY AS REACTIONS. ONE YEAR AGO THEY WOULD HAVE HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER.....

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE REACTIONS ARE NOT ENOUGH, THINGS ARE FADING AS FAST AS THEY FORM....

AND THOSE WHO MAKE IT, ONCE AGAIN, LACK THE MOTIVATION AND WISDOM THAT THOSE IN THE SIXTIES HAD, THESE NEW TASTE MAKERS HAVE LOST THEIR "BODHICITTA", THEY HAVE LOST THEIR CONCERN FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS OF CHILDREN.....

PROMOTIONS HAVE BEEN REDUCED TO ONE OR TWO ARTISTS THAT HAVE BEEN POPULARIZED. PEOPLE DO NOT SEE HOW WHEN THEY STARTED OUT THOSE ARTISTS WERE PART OF A "CREW" AND HOW IT TOOK THE COLLECTIVE TO GET THEM THERE!

YOU SAY HIP HOP TO KIDS NOW AND THEY HAVE NO IDEA OF THE GROUPS THEIR FAVORITE ARTIST CAME FROM.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE RAP/HIP HOP CONFUSION HAS WORKED PERFECTLY... KIDS ARE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT IS WHAT...

THE CONFUSION NEEDS TO STOP IF IT WILL EVER GO FORWARD INTO HEALTHY DIRECTIONS.

WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE ATTEMPTING TO SPEAK UP ABOUT HIP HOP IN A POSITIVE WAY, ONLY TO USE THE WORK RAP IN THE SAME SENTENCE.

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[tellytell]

INTO THINKING RAP AND HIP HOP ARE THE SAME THING....

GREAT FOR THE ARTISTS IN HIP HOP WHO ARE NOT BRAIN WASHED...

BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE DOING THE MOST. IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE INTO SPIRITUAL ACTIVISM.

WHAT ARE THEY DOING ON GRASS ROOT LEVELS TO EXPOSE THE ACTIONS BY RETAIL HIPSTERS? USUALLY THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO BRING THEM TO TOWN FOR A SHOW....

BUT HOW OFTEN DO THESE ARTISTS USE THEIR BIG BUCKS TO OPEN A SPACE GEARED TOWARDS EVERYONE? YOU NEVER SEE IT, THEY ALWAYS "TAKE THE MONEY ENRUN".....

WHY DONLT THEY EVER OPEN UP A COMMUNITY CENTER LIKE SPACE GEARED TOWARDS THE KIDS, OR A SUPER VENUE THAT BRINGS IN ACTS FROM AROUND THE WORLD, OPENING PEOPLE UP TO THE SKILLS AND UNITY THEY NEED TO WORK INTERDEPENDENTLY?

AND IN WAYS THAT ARE "ANTI-MARKETING"....?

HIP HOP ARTISTS WERE KNOCKED OFF TRACK....

WE ARE NOT FOR THE GOVT. TELLING PEOPLE WHAT TO SMOKE OR NOT....


BUT THE WHOLE HIP HOP WEED THING IS BABY LEVEL ACTION TOWARD THE HERBAL TRUTHS ABOUT HEALTH AND BALANCE AND ALTERNATIVES..... MOST OF THESE HIP HOP ARTISTS DO NOT CARE MUCH ABOUT THEIR HEALTH........ AND DOING THE SHOW THING AT NIGHT MAKES IT HARD TO DO THE YOGA THING IN THE MORNING.

PEOPLE GATHER FOR THE PARTY.....

ONCE THE CAR COMPANIES TOOK OVER THE PARTY, THE ARTISTS HAD NO WHERE TO GO..... AFTER LOOSING THEIR COLLECTIVE SPIRIT AND ABILITY TO HOLD RETAIL SPACE, THEY LOST THEIR STREET PARTY PERMITS AND PEOPLE PARK SHOWS.....

ARTISTS USED TO BE ABLE TO TOUR MOM AND POP SHOPS.....

NOW WE HAVE NO OPTIONS TO START LABELS VIA CONSIGNMENT, RECORD STORES MADE SURE TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING.... BANDS WENT TO MYSPACE AND ITUNES, AND WHILE THEY PLAY ON THE INTERNET, THEY LET GO OF THE GROSS PLANE WORLD THAT IS WHERE WE ACTUALLY LIVE.

BUT ITS NOT THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT WORKING TO KEEP HIP HOP ON TRACK......

THERE ARE MANY.....

PEOPLE JUST NEED TO AWAKEN TO NEXT LEVEL VIEWS WHERE SPIRITUAL ACTIVISM CAN DIFFERENTIATE ITSELF FROM COMMON TRENDY STUFF.....

NOT EVERYONE IS AT THE SAME AWARENESS LEVEL AT ONCE....

BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET ENOUGH UNITY TOGETHER, TO GATHER BY WORKING INTERDEPENDENTLY IN AN AWARENESS THAT HAS A HIGHER PURPOSE THAN CLUB LIFE!

People just need a place to happen....

And if they are too busy surviving, then its a state of mind issue and basic understandings of spirituality, life and death are the solution.... Not a religious thing, just a "truth process" that can be shared ......

[tellytell]

Our news source had front page music related stuff on it.

This is exactly what I've been talking about:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EPF/is_14_102/ai_95527137

"JAY-Z'S LATEST SINGLE makes you want to move, Missy Misdemeanor Elliot's newest song makes you want to hum along, and Eminem's lyrics make you think. But could rap music be hazardous to your health?

Yes, say some rappers, music industry executives, and teen listeners. They have formed a movement called Hip-Hop 4 Peace to tone down rap music's violent lyrics and reputation. The members say that when hip-hop artists rap about drugs and gangs, they make dangerous activities sound cool to young listeners."

[tellytell]

If he is, we revoke his ghetto pass!

Same with the others mentioned.....

[tellytell]

MANY DO UNAWARES WORK FOR THE WRONG PURPOSES.

ALL THE BATTLE STUFF HAS BECOME EGO DRIVEN LIKE HOW THEY TURNED SKATEBOARDING INTO HOW MANY TRICKS YOU CAN DO, rather than, "where have you traveled, what did you skate?"... ????


REACHING FOR EXCITEMENT RATHER THAN JOY, MANY SCENES HAVE LOST THEIR SPIRITUALITY TO A VERY GROSS PLANE IDEA HAPPENING. These people are part of the audience the truth movement are attempting to reach, because its a big part of the population.....

ALL THESE "SCENES" ARE ALSO NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF UNITY IN HIP HOP....

THIS PARTY CROWD DIDN'T TURN TOWARD THE EAST LIKE THE BRAND NUBIANS DID SO LONG AGO, THESE PARTY PEOPLE TRIED THE FOOTBALL MIND-STATE INSTEAD. I THINK THEY TURNED BATTLE INTO SOMETHING WHICH IS FIGHTING THE WRONG THINGS.

ALL OF IT IS HARD FOR THEM TO STEP OUT OF BECAUSE CORPORATIONS HAVE WORKED SO HARD TO GET THEM INTO IT, HOW CAN THEY STEP AWAY FROM THE SELF GRASPING MIND WHEN THEY ARE FORCED INTO
"I-ZONES, MY-PODS, AND ANTI-COLLECTIVE SPACES AT HOME WHERE YOU CANNOT HAVE GUESTS OVER BECAUSE SOME FEAR-BASED SELF GRASPING ROOM-MATE IS THE EMPOWERED PERSON WHO THE CONSCIOUS PERSON IS DETERMINED BY.

ARE PEOPLE BEING DETERMINED BY AN UNCONSCIOUS COLLECTIVE?

AMERICA IS SUPER INTOXICATED, TOO DRUNK TO STEP BACK WITHOUT FALLING.....

THE SOBER YOGA CROWD WILL NOT DEAL WITH THE DIFFICULT TRUTHS BECAUSE ACTIVISM IS TABOO NOW....

TOO MANY ALIENS AND SPACE BEAMS HAVE BEEN ASSOCIATED PERFECTLY WITH THE SINCERE TRUTH SEEKERS.....

WE NEED TO MAKE A SPECIAL THREAD FOR THAT "Fetzer" interview CUZ I THINK HE DID EXACTLY WHAT FINTAN WAS TALKING ABOUT WHILE BEING INTERVIEW..... I THINK THE FETZER DUDE IS WACK, HE SHOLD GO HANG OUT WITH M&M AND WE SHOULD REVOKE HIS GHETTO PASS.

[tellytell]

[tellytell]

WHO CAN DOUBT THAT THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN BEHIND ALL THAT HAS BEEN POINTED TO IN THE VIDEOS ABOVE WOULD NOT BUILT TOWERS TO DEMOLISH?

PEOPLE KNOW WHATS UP, YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE ART OF THE YOUTH, THE UNSUNG SONGS, LOST IN THE DUST FROM THE TOWERS BROUGHT DOWN BY C4....


http://www.languageartscrew.com/

[tellytell]

When you attempt to share the music that stayed on track, your days are filled with odd glitches, "fari can’t open the page.
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THE PARTY CROWD THAT FUNDS THE GROUPS LIKE THE COUP MAKE SURE TO SELL OUT TO THE SECRET AGENDAS, FOLLOWING TECH TRENDS INTO CENSORSHIP....

THE OTHERS TRY TO KEEP UP WITH THE STANDARDS OF IMAGERY SET BY THE CORPORATIONS BY HANGING OUT WITH THE PARTY CROWD ON THAT GREEN TIP, BUT ITS A GREEN WASH TIP, NOT SOMETHING TRULY CONCERNED ABOUT FUTURE GENERATIONS OF CHILDREN....

WHAT LACKS IS A SOBER CROWD PRESENCE... THAT ONE IS OFTEN FOUND IN THE YOGA CROWD BUT THE NEW AWARENESS IS NOT FOUND OR EXPRESSED IN RETAIL/STUDIO LEVEL LOCATIONS YET...

MESSAGE BOARDS NEED RESPECTED, THE FEW GOOD ONES THAT REMAIN.....

HOW TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE CENSORSHIP HAPPENING IN THE MY-ZONES IS A BIG QUESTION....

[tellytell]

DO THE gangsters HAVE more unity that the 911 TRUTH SEEKERS? AND THE conscious hip hop crowd......?

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