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Robert



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Yeah,bad call on Hil there:your research department has pulled my Global Decimator hedge fund down but Matt Simmons has kept us buoyant with the oil.
Still we had the Rothsclouts on the phone for awhile.Not pleasant.Our bloodline representative had to have the rest of the day off.

Now we're cautious but your McCain analysis is tasty so we're putting the big
money short Obama and long McCain.
Handy that your fellow Irishmen at

http://www.intrade.com

are all pulling for a sure set Ob-victory.



Isn't there a job there for you,contrary analysis with Fintan Dunne,sure it'll pay for Kathy's drive on lawnmower....

Mr. Green



live charts too.....
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert wrote
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sure it'll pay for Kathy's drive on lawnmower....


Actually I got one:

Ride On Mower

Eco friendly and great horse power pullhead

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trust you to shoot a sharp arrow back when i've just put down me bow....

& I trust you'll turn your dark day into light.

Robert
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Trust you to shoot a sharp arrow back when i've just put down me bow....

& I trust you'll turn your dark day into light.

Robert


I am the Archer and when I send my arrows forth they brighten every day, even what seem like dark days.

Peace Robert

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan, thank you for another great audio. I wish you hadn't used the "N" word however. Your disclaimer - "not pejoritive" - and the lense you were peeking through at the time helped mitigate the impression, but the immediate effect puts you on the same shaky footing as Alex Jones. You've criticized him for much the same thing. ie - repelling peripheral listeners with jargon safely overlooked by those who would know better, (at least that's how I see it.) Yes, Alex Jones plays that zone all the time.
(I know I'm annoying and I don't care.)

Generally I agree, insofar as I understand. Obama's arrogance is a double edged sword. He satisfies the masses without informing them, while peeving idiots all the more powerfully toward a surer McCain victory. Similarly, a growing number of skeptics won't trust Obama, not enough to actually vote for him. The sleepies will find their measure of comfort in McCain.

In the meantime, the udder face of the Obama mellow-drama keeps the herd safely on the path, with the left playing directly off the right in this case - AND AS ALWAYS in the theater of false debate:



....totally limits the scope of inquiry and begs the false question.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:12 pm    Post subject: Re: New Audio: President McCain & the Obama Ambush Reply with quote

Fintan wrote:

Dialup Mp3 Audio
http://BreakForNews.com/audio/BeautifulTruth080712.mp3
Click to Play or Right-Click to 'Save As' and Download.

Outstanding analysis, Fintan. Reasonably safe nuclear power seems possible and even desirable to me, but this group can't tie its shoes, let alone keep radio active material contained.

The rest is spot-on, and even that criticism is sympathetic.

Anyone out there who thinks this is discouraging should think again. Americans have to face the facts before things can improve.

If you think Canada is an escape hatch, think again. This is going global.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject: Well, Reply with quote

I didn't have any bets on Hillary, just couldn't see a woman getting that spot, but couldn't see Obama getting it either.

Right now, I figure I'll have to see who "they" select as next president before I can determine how and what sort of screwing we're gonna get in the near future.

For some unexplained reason, haven't sorted my thoughts on it yet, I tend to think an Obama presidency will be much, much more horrific than a McCain. I really need to work on why I have this "feeling" - but it's becoming a real pain in the ass watching politics.

I don't think America's racism would stop many from voting for Obama. As a black living here in Crackerneck, Heartland, I see bigotry almost every day - but I also see the same bigots admiring Obama - he's not a Black Commoner - he's "different." Qualified and educated you know. Some bigots will support him just to prove how not racist they are - maybe they figure he doesn't have a chance and their one little vote won't make a difference, which I suppose doesn't since we'll get who "they" give us anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time for the 'Rove' tactics
to kick in, it seems....


Quote:
To defeat Obama, conservatives take the initiative

They're putting questions on state ballots
designed to turn out GOP voters.


Tim Rutten, LA TImes -July 26, 2008

Social and religious conservatives are placing an increasingly large wager
on a strategy they believe may overcome their constituents' lack of
enthusiasm for Sen. John McCain, giving him a competitive edge over
Sen. Barack Obama even in states as deeply blue as California.

Essentially, the strategy is a reprise of one Karl Rove used to push
George W. Bush to victory in 2004, when he helped place measures
banning same-sex marriage on the ballot in 11 key states.


The Republican incumbent carried them all as religious conservatives --
particularly evangelical Protestants -- flocked to the polls to support the
initiatives. This time around, similar measures denying marriage to gay
and lesbian couples will be on the ballot in California, Florida and Arizona.

The Family Research Council, which supports all three propositions,
believes that McCain could win in California. "It's been a long time since
California was in play for a Republican," said David Nammo, who directs
the council's legislative efforts. In part, his optimism is based on a private
survey in which 58% of all likely voters said they "would be more likely to
support a presidential candidate" who favors banning same-sex marriage.

McCain supports the proposed amendment to the California Constitution
forbidding same-sex marriage; Obama opposes it, as does Gov.
Arnold Schwarzenegger
.

This time around, however, religious and social conservatives aren't
banking on opposition to gay marriage alone. Across the country, close
to 100 statewide questions already have qualified for the ballot in the
November election.
As many as 60 could be added. Many of these involve
social questions about which ideological and religious conservatives have
strong feelings.

Colorado -- a pivotal swing state -- has two. One would define the
moment of conception as life's legal beginning; the other would end
affirmative action in college admissions and government hiring. South
Dakota
will consider banning abortion except in cases of rape, incest or
threats to the mother's health. California will (once again) vote on
parental notification in abortion cases. Arizona will weigh a proposal to
deprive employers who hire illegal immigrants of their business licenses.
Missouri will decide whether to make English its official language. Oregon
will consider drastic restrictions on bilingual education.

Some conservative strategists believe that ostensibly liberal measures to
legalize stem cell research in Michigan and to permit assisted suicide in
Washington state ultimately will also work to the Republicans' advantage
-- again by drawing to the polls social conservatives who wouldn't
necessarily turn out just to support McCain.

To a large extent, Republicans are being encouraged to rely on this sort
of state-by-state strategy because they see the election shaping up as
less a contest between Obama and McCain and more as a kind of
referendum on the presumptive Democratic nominee, his character
and fitness for office. If they're right, Obama would face a larger-than-
expected number of voters likely to take a skeptical view of his credentials
.

Ballot propositions involving hot-button social issues not only are likely to
turn out evangelical voters in large numbers, they may force Obama to
take specific positions on the issues as he campaigns across the country.
If he's forced to declare himself on when life begins or on assisted
suicide, he risks alienating either the left wing of his own party or the
faith-formed voters his campaign has spent so much time courting.

Still, a couple of this election season's strongest trends are working in
Obama's favor. One is the overwhelming support the Illinois senator
enjoys among one of the electorate's most important emerging
constituencies -- Latinos. According to a nationwide survey conducted
this week by the nonpartisan Pew Hispanic Center, registered Latino
voters favor Obama over McCain 66% to 23%
. Like other registered
voters, Latinos are far more worried about economic issues than they
are about immigration reform or the war in Iraq. Latinos are a particularly
strong voting group in California, Florida and Colorado, and also in New
Mexico and Nevada, states regarded as "in play."

At the same time, surveys of all voters find that economic anxieties are
also strong among this election's other emergent (and pro-Obama)
constituency: voters under 30.

So, in key states across the country, this election may come down to a
contest between the economic voters' dissatisfaction and the values
voters' old-time political religion.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/la-oe-rutten26-2008jul26,0,2021472.column

The McCain campaign's first,
now infamous TV-Advert called
"Love"
was really a negative message
slickly wrapped in a sweet package.

Now a new Rovian-classic TV-Advert,
begins to take the gloves off.....


Quote:
New John McCain ad spotlights Barack
Obama's derailed troop visit


Barack Obama took his own shot at defusing the flap surrounding the
canceled visit to a U.S. military hospital during his overseas trip. But
John McCain's campaign isn't about to let the matter rest.


Indeed, the Republican elevated the contretemps to what passes for
the height of political discourse these days: it's a key element in a new
television ad (see video below).

The 30-second spot zings Obama for making time for a gym workout
while in Germany earlier this week, but removing from his itinerary a
planned stop at the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center. The ad continues:

"Seems the Pentagon wouldn't allow him to bring cameras.

"John McCain is always there for our troops.

"McCain. Country first."
Link


'Troops'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49hC9TpP_rY


Quote:
'In the Tank' - with Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6CSix3Dy04

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: New Audio: President McCain & the Obama Ambush Reply with quote

ots wrote:
If you think Canada is an escape hatch, think again. This is going global.


This is one great reality check statement. Thanks. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Obama backs away from McCain's debate challenge

By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL – 2 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic candidate Barack Obama on Saturday backed away from rival John McCain's challenge for a series of joint appearances, agreeing only to the standard three debates in the fall.

In May, when a McCain adviser proposed a series of pre-convention appearances at town hall meetings, Obama said, "I think that's a great idea." In summer stumping on the campaign trail, McCain has often noted that Obama had not followed through and joined him in any events.

Obama's reversal on town hall debates is part of a play-it-safe strategy he's adopted since claiming the nomination and grabbing a lead in national polls. Advisers to the Illinois senator, speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss strategy, say Obama is reluctant to take chances or give McCain a high-profile stage now that Obama's the front-runner.

On Saturday, in a letter to the Commission on Presidential Debates, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said the short period between the last political convention and the first proposed debate made it likely that the commission-sponsored debates would be the only ones.

"We've committed to the three debates on the table," campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Saturday in an interview. "It's likely they will be the three appearances by the candidates this fall."

Asked by The Associated Press if that meant Obama would not agree to any other debates, Psaki said, "We're not saying that." She said the McCain campaign had rejected Obama's proposal for two joint town hall meetings.

McCain's campaign disparaged Obama for backing off. "We understand it might be beneath a worldwide celebrity of Barack Obama's magnitude to appear at town hall meetings alongside John McCain and directly answer questions from the American people, but we hope he'll reconsider," spokesman Brian Rogers said.

The first debate planned by the commission is set for Sept. 26 in Oxford, Miss., three weeks after the Republican National Convention concludes Sept. 4. The Democratic convention is scheduled for Aug. 25-28.

The other presidential debates are set for Oct. 7 and Oct. 15 and the vice presidential debate for Oct. 2.....

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hjmksVl2byqc_-Lkbri0QQWkgUwgD92ADAQO0

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is information on a guy in the running for McCain's VP...

http://moleprogressive.blogspot.com/2008/07/mccains-vp-eric-cantor-another-bush.html

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Interesting timing......

Was he on O-B-Wan's shortlist for VP?
Was that inconvenient?

Is this convenient?


Quote:
John Edwards admits affair, denies paternity

ABC News is reporting that John Edwards confirmed that he indeed had an affair with videographer Rielle Hunter, but denied that he is the father of her baby -- the subject of recent allegations in the National Enquirer that have launched a broad debate over the media's responsibility in pursuing such stories.

In an interview with Bob Woodruff to air this evening, Edwards admits to having an affair with Hunter but says it began and ended while the cancer afflicting his wife, Elizabeth Edwards, was in remission. The disease has since flared anew.

ABC said that Edwards, who has not taken a paternity test, contended he could not be the father of Hunter's baby because the affair ended before the child's conception. A former aide, Andrew Young, has said that he is the father though a birth certificate apparently lists no father for the child.

It was unclear whether Edwards had been on Barack Obama's short list of vice presidential contenders, but his admission would seem to put a spike in that, not to mention any high-profile role at the Democratic National Convention on Aug. 25-28 in Denver.

Added to the controversy: Edwards lied about the affair when the Enquirer first raised the issue in October. Edwards, then actively seeking the Democratic nomination, told reporters the story was "false" and "ridiculous."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/08/john-edwards-af.html

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