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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: CELLPHONE POPCORN! Reply with quote







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Informant: Pesch Jeannot

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Cellphone Popcorn Popping & Bird Flock Suicides!!

I notice a lot of pro and con discussion about popcorn and cellphones lately.

Notice that the popcorn kernels are surrounded by at least three cellphones with antennae pointed at the kernels. Kernels must be in middle of area so all cellphone antennae transmissions center on them.

I'm no physicist (B.S., M.E.), but after collecting info on unusual and rare event EMF effects, natural and artificial, since 1965, I see some possibe tie-ins here with at least three bird flock suicides I have on record.

1. Many bird flocks and schools of fish turn as one unit, almost instantaneously....kind of a "group mind" effect. We know birds and fish and other creatures (even humans??....charisma?) receive and transmit natural geoelectromagnetic and EMFs from each other, as well as interactions with the environment....it's called "survival"!

2. We are becoming more aware that specie-specific window frequencies and waveforms (not necessarily intensity) affect living systems in various ways. It's the information content of the signals that creates biological effects. Humans are not the only living things that transmit information contents with EMF signals!! .. alltho our artificial signals are often far stronger (and sometimes less informative) than most natural signals.

3. I understand (comments here, please) that there is such a phenomenon known as interference, when two EMF or sonic frequencies intersect......Depending of phase of signal you get either destructive (reduction) or constructive (increase) interference....I believe this kind of situation creates a "standing wave" effect.

4. O.K., so, with three, or more, cellphone antennae aimed precisely at the kernels the transmission signals from the sound input to the cellphones all hit the kernels at the same time with the same signal phase, thus it would seem that an additive effect (constructive) interference of the transmitted beams concentrate in just one tiny area...an intense standing wave of microwave energy results,.and pop goes the corn!.....one cellphone won't do it....gotta have concentration and standing wave....

5. Now, back to the birds. It seems very likely (considering the large nuimber of antennae in close proximity in the environment now) that occasionally that two or more cellphone antennae transmission beams intersect and happen to be sending the same signal information at the same time, creating a standing wave. When birds hit this temporary standing wave microwave field, they become totally disoriented and confused and sometimes dive straight into the ground as a group. It appears their automatic natural altimeter and sense of direction is destroyed.

6. This happened in England several years ago, and last year a similar incident occurred in Austin Texas. Several years ago a homing pigeon racing event up in Philadelphia area had to be held during the week, because weather prevented the contest during the weekend. Almost no pigeons made it home. Pigeons, which we know are very sensitive to geoelectromagnetic natural signals, do not seem to fly in flocks like blackbirds and starlings, so I suppose there was a lot of general confusion.

So, there are my comments on the popcorn situation.

Condemnation before Investigation is a great way to prevent progress!


James B. Beal
EMF Interface Consulting

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Cell Phones Pop Corn, Toast Brains
http://www.jonbarron.org/blog_published/2008/06/cell_phones_pop_corn_toast_bra.html
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pardon my eternal skepticism, but... I'd like to see this done on a glass table top, instead of one that could be concelaing a heating unit underneath.

I'm not definitively saying it's bullshit, but only then will I buy it. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, I'll have to try it myself next time I'm around people with cells!

I don't have one meself, these Internet pundits have got me all paranoid, he said while surfing BReakForNews with WiFi

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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YouTube videos that show a group of friends apparently cooking kernels of popcorn with their cellphones have been viewed more than a million times since they were uploaded last week.

The clever parlor trick (see embedded clip) looks amazing enough, but there's a hitch: It's not physically possible, according to University of Virginia physics professor Louis Bloomfield.

"[The videos] are cute," said Bloomfield in a phone conversation Monday. "But that's never gonna happen."

In a microwave oven, energy excites the water inside popcorn kernels until it turns into highly pressurized gas, causing the kernels to pop. If mobile phones emitted that much energy, the water in the fingers of people holding them would heat up.

"It would hurt like crazy," Bloomfield said. "Cellphones probably warm your tissues, but studies indicate that's not injurious."

Bloomfield, author of How Everything Works: Making Physics Out of the Ordinary, dismissed theories bubbling up in comment threads about the videos that suggest harmonious vibrations are heating the corn.

"Ringing the phones doesn't help because they're interfering with each other and receiving a signal [from a cellphone tower] -- not transmitting it," he said. Furthermore, while it is possible to heat with sound, it's not likely to happen at the low volume emitted by a mobile phone. "It would be like gathering opera singers together to sing, and trying to make the corn pop," Bloomfield said.

So, what's really causing the kernels to ricochet off the table in the YouTube clips? Bloomfield suggests tricky video editing or even a covert heating element beneath the table. Debunker website Snopes.com also points out that cooking popcorn with cellphones is impossible (same goes for eggs).

The popcorn videos, like the slew of YouTube clips showcasing ordinary people performing extraordinary feats that came before them, has the distinct markings of a viral-marketing campaign. Let's look at the facts.

First, all four videos -- French, Japanese and two American editions -- were posted to the YouTube accounts of users bobtel08 and benzin513 (with French descriptions) within several days of one another.

Second, a cryptic bit of commentary posted alongside one of the videos says: "We tried but didn't make it ... maybe only with phone brands or models???" It could be a subtle hint to get viewers to notice the phones more than the stunt. And, indeed, several comments have suggested the phones all appear to be similar makes and models, possibly Nokias or Sony Ericsson mobiles.

For now, however, the clandestine origin of the videos is under wraps. Bobtel08, benzin513 and Nokia did not immediately respond to Wired.com's requests for comment, and a representative from Sony Ericsson North America said he wasn't aware of the videos at all.


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I know I am a big nerd for this, but I hate to see wide spread ignorance in an area of my specialty. I'm talking about the video that got featured that showed 4 cell phones popping 4 kernels of popcorn due to the radiation given off from the cell phone. I want to let everyone know this is completely fake. A 1 kilowatt microwave takes around one minute to pop it's first kernel in a closed environment. A cell phone transmitter operates from 0.1 to 1 watt, but this video shows these kernels popping almost immediately. I'm an electrical engineer and a guy I work with whom has a better understanding of the electromagnetic spectrum was kind enough to do the theoretical math on this. He joined GT just to do a comment on this vid, and here's what he said:

"Plausible? Let us do a little math.

Popcorn pops because the water in it turns to steam and a kernel is about 14% water. So, if we assume a kernel of popcorn weighs 1 gram, it has 0.13 grams of water. Heat that water from 30�C to 100�C would take:

(0.14g)*(100�C-3 to turn the water to steam requires he latent heat of vaporization, which is 2259J/g.

2259J*0.14g= 316J
for a total of 316J 41J = 357J.

Wattage = Joules/seconds. If it took about 5 seconds to turn the water in the popcorn kernel to steam, then the wattage required was:

357J/5sec = 71W assuming all power from the cell phone transmitter went into the kernel.

Cell phones typically have 0.75W-1W transmitters in them. With a 1W transmitter, it would take,

334J/1W = 334secs, if all power is transfered to the kernel.

You decide."

You can't argue with mathematical law.
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http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/06/cellphones-cant.html


http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=423337
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reminds me of the "cook an egg with a cellphone" days.


You can't cook an egg or pop corn with a cellphone, so trust us they are SAFE!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's interesting about is the fact that this is obviously an organized op of some sort. Someone went to the trouble of staging 3 demonstrations (at least) that look global in appearance. They either hired voice actors that could do accents, or literally had them staged in other countries (or simply rounded up foreign workers at US corporations and had them speak in their natives languages.)

But somebody definitely went to some trouble to stage this. Why? Just to hoax the interneters and see how far it goes? Or to further demonstrate the "unreliability" of videos on the net - whether it be cellphone popcorn, AA battery secrets, water-burning engines, or anything related to conspiracy "theories"?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well we can start here.

A maker of blue tooth headsets says "yes it's a hoax and we did it as a viral marketing campaign"


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The headset's out of the bag and one company scored big with their viral videos.

Cardo Systems, a manufacturer of Bluetooth headsets, claimed responsibility for the four videos showing cell phones popping popcorn.

The videos -- and I'm still convinced they were brilliantly edited -- were produced by LastFools, a marketing firm in Paris.

They seem to say that if you were dumb enough to grab some friends and try to pop corn with your cell phone, and it didn't work, don't blame -- or sue -- us.

"The contents of these videos are fictitious and humorous optical illusions, designed for entertainment. Nothing in these videos is meant to imply that mobile phones can make popcorn and Cado Systems specifically disclaims that these videos contain any portrayal of facts or comments about safety. Cardo disclaims any liability for the information in these videos."

Will Cardo sell more headsets? Hard to say, of course, but if you're in the market for one, read our Bluetooth Headsets for Cell Phones review.


http://blogs.pcworld.com/tipsandtweaks/archives/007105.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it was actually produced by www.lastfools.com, who I'm sure will now be a hot commodity.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CELL PHONE POPCORN................PROVEN!!!



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C'mon, JR.... that was obviously a ruse by someone who has a steak in bluetooth sales.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh sry, lol, i didnt mean to mock anyone, i was just trying to be funny..Embarassed ...
I agree with you totally that this is obviously a shill stunt by the cell phone corp.
This way people focus on a problem that doesn't exist, and give the corp something to "disprove", In the mean time burying the real problems under piles of BS.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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that was obviously a ruse by someone who has a steak in bluetooth sales.


I kinda don't understand the point your trying to make...How is a fake problem that the cell phone corp made up, going to increase bluetooth sales?

My first guess would be to make people think that the cell phones are actually "safe" by having the corporations scientists "debunk" the videos and "prove" they were a hoax. Also, the videos would lead to other more important problems being associated to these fake problems(which have been "debunked") getting rid of peoples concerns about the dangers of cell phones. In particular its effects on the Blood Brain Barrier. Therefor increasing the sales due to consumers feeling safer with their product. ???
Help me out here.
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