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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: The Fake Oil Crisis of 1973 Reply with quote

Oil is not from dead dinosaurs but from chemical reactions in the Earth's mantle.

The Fake Oil Crisis of 1973

The 1973 OPEC "oil shock" and the accompanying oil "shortage" were secretly planned by the highest levels of the US and British elites, with Henry Kissinger playing a key role.

http://questionsquestions.net/docs04/peakoil1.html

google: Abiotic oil
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My eldest brother (I'm the youngest of many) lived in Houston at the time, and his best friend was a tanker dispatcher for a large oil conglomerate (name withheld). Let's say his name was Brian, for this story.

Brian was a good guy, never drank - he was wheat gluten intolerant, and didn't like liquor or wine. Brian also told my brother, in confidence, that according to his records, processed gasoline was "disappearing". Later, his said that he'd spoken with some of the drivers, and following that and some numbers crunching, he was convinced that they were "dumping gas in the desert." Later, private conversations with some drivers confirmed that as fact.

A few months after that, Brian died in the standard "one car crash in the middle of nowhere, and drunk, according to the autopsy." His wife and friends knew better - he had been voicing his suspicions to the wrong people, and it caught up with him.

I myself can't vouch for the authenticity of this story, but my brother swears by it. This was his best friend, he knew him well.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard similar stories of full oil tankers ordered to sit idle off of our coasts at the time. But it's no secret that the oil market has always been dominated by a few big international players, who delight in creating artificial shortages for big profit. I do remember that oil company profits were at record highs back in '73. Just like now.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rumpl4skn wrote:
My eldest brother (I'm the youngest of many) lived in Houston at the time, and his best friend was a tanker dispatcher for a large oil conglomerate (name withheld). Let's say his name was Brian, for this story.

Brian was a good guy, never drank - he was wheat gluten intolerant, and didn't like liquor or wine. Brian also told my brother, in confidence, that according to his records, processed gasoline was "disappearing". Later, his said that he'd spoken with some of the drivers, and following that and some numbers crunching, he was convinced that they were "dumping gas in the desert." Later, private conversations with some drivers confirmed that as fact.

A few months after that, Brian died in the standard "one car crash in the middle of nowhere, and drunk, according to the autopsy." His wife and friends knew better - he had been voicing his suspicions to the wrong people, and it caught up with him.

I myself can't vouch for the authenticity of this story, but my brother swears by it. This was his best friend, he knew him well.


Yeah!! That was what they were worrying about was killing the meaningless insignificant. Yeah!! that was their worry?
What a great story.
No wonder why many have been attacking this forum.
Great work!!!
No wonder I could care less!!
Embarassed

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every generation gets 'spanked' with the 'end of oil/peak oil' scam as payback for being such foolish dependants of the notoriously abusive oil cartels.

Even cartoons going back to the early 1940's have references to the 'end of oil' crisis.

A Coy Decoy (1941) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033496/


Notice the title of the book at the 38 second point, "No More Gas".

"Peak oil" indeed.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:11 am    Post subject: Lindsey Williams Reply with quote

I would recommend checking out Lindsey Williams, author of THE ENERGY NON-CRISIS:

http://www.reformation.org/energy-non-crisis.html

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147

The foreword to the book is written by State Senator Hugh Chance, whose existence I confirmed with the Colorado State archives.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the peak oil theory isn't welcome on this forum? If you believe that oil comes from an organic origin, which just about every scientist believes, then clearly oil is a finite resource.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xiang wrote:
So the peak oil theory isn't welcome on this forum? If you believe that oil comes from an organic origin, which just about every scientist believes, then clearly oil is a finite resource.


If oil, a supposed 'fossil fuel' comes from an 'organic origin', such as 'rotting dinosaurs', care to explain this?

Titan's Surface Organics Surpass Oil Reserves on Earth

Saturn's orange moon Titan has hundreds of times more liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on Earth, according to new data from NASA's Cassini spacecraft. The hydrocarbons rain from the sky, collecting in vast deposits that form lakes and dunes.

The new findings from the study led by Ralph Lorenz, Cassini radar team member from the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Laurel, Md., are reported in the Jan. 29 issue of the Geophysical Research Letters.

"Titan is just covered in carbon-bearing material -- it's a giant factory of organic chemicals," said Lorenz. "This vast carbon inventory is an important window into the geology and climate history of Titan."

At a balmy minus 179 degrees Celsius (minus 290 degrees Fahrenheit), Titan is a far cry from Earth. Instead of water, liquid hydrocarbons in the form of methane and ethane are present on the moon's surface, and tholins probably make up its dunes. The term "tholins"was coined by Carl Sagan in 1979 to describe the complex organic molecules at the heart of prebiotic chemistry.

Cassini has mapped about 20 percent of Titan's surface with radar. Several hundred lakes and seas have been observed, with each of several dozen estimated to contain more hydrocarbon liquid than Earth's oil and gas reserves. The dark dunes that run along the equator contain a volume of organics several hundred times larger than Earth's coal reserves.

Proven reserves of natural gas on Earth total 130 billion tons, enough to provide 300 times the amount of energy the entire United States uses annually for residential heating, cooling and lighting. Dozens of Titan's lakes individually have the equivalent of at least this much energy in the form of methane and ethane.
Full article: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/media/cassini-20080213.html

Seeing that there is such a huge amount of hydrocarbons on Titan, which as far as I know supports no living organisms, shouldn't the Earth be literally 'drowning' in hydrocarbons seeing that it supports a 'mammoth' abundance of living organisms?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PerpetualYnquisitive

Oil and coal on Earth have organic origins, those on Titan other chemical reactions cause the hydrocarbons. Most of Titans are in the form of liquid methane, a naturally occuring form.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Fossil Fuel Scam



Confessions of an ex Peak Oil Believer


By F William Engdahl, September 14, 2007


The good news is that panic scenarios about the world running out of oil anytime soon are wrong. The bad news is that the price of oil is going to continue to rise. Peak Oil is not our problem. Politics is. Big Oil wants to sustain high oil prices. Dick Cheney and friends are all too willing to assist.

On a personal note, Ive researched questions of petroleum, since the first oil shocks of the 1970s. I was intrigued in 2003 with something called Peak Oil theory. It seemed to explain the otherwise inexplicable decision by Washington to risk all in a military move on Iraq.

Peak Oil advocates, led by former BP geologist Colin Campbell, and Texas banker Matt Simmons, argued that the world faced a new crisis, an end to cheap oil, or Absolute Peak Oil, perhaps by 2012, perhaps by 2007. Oil was supposedly on its last drops. They pointed to our soaring gasoline and oil prices, to the declines in output of North Sea and Alaska and other fields as proof they were right.

According to Campbell, the fact that no new North Sea-size fields had been discovered since the North Sea in the late 1960s was proof. He reportedly managed to convince the International Energy Agency and the Swedish government. That, however, does not prove him correct.

Intellectual fossils?

The Peak Oil school rests its theory on conventional Western geology textbooks, most by American or British geologists, which claim oil is a fossil fuel, a biological residue or detritus of either fossilized dinosaur remains or perhaps algae, hence a product in finite supply. Biological origin is central to Peak Oil theory, used to explain why oil is only found in certain parts of the world where it was geologically trapped millions of years ago. That would mean that, say, dead dinosaur remains became compressed and over tens of millions of years fossilized and trapped in underground reservoirs perhaps 4-6,000 feet below the surface of the earth. In rare cases, so goes the theory, huge amounts of biological matter should have been trapped in rock formations in the shallower ocean offshore as in the Gulf of Mexico or North Sea or Gulf of Guinea. Geology should be only about figuring out where these pockets in the layers of the earth , called reservoirs, lie within certain sedimentary basins.

An entirely alternative theory of oil formation has existed since the early 1950s in Russia, almost unknown to the West. It claims conventional American biological origins theory is an unscientific absurdity that is un-provable. They point to the fact that western geologists have repeatedly predicted finite oil over the past century, only to then find more, lots more.

Not only has this alternative explanation of the origins of oil and gas existed in theory. The emergence of Russia and prior of the USSR as the worlds largest oil producer and natural gas producer has been based on the application of the theory in practice. This has geopolitical consequences of staggering magnitude.

Necessity: the mother of invention

In the 1950s the Soviet Union faced Iron Curtain isolation from the West. The Cold War was in high gear. Russia had little oil to fuel its economy. Finding sufficient oil indigenously was a national security priority of the highest order.

Scientists at the Institute of the Physics of the Earth of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Institute of Geological Sciences of the Ukraine Academy of Sciences began a fundamental inquiry in the late 1940s: where does oil come from?

In 1956, Prof. Vladimir Porfiryev announced their conclusions: Crude oil and natural petroleum gas have no intrinsic connection with biological matter originating near the surface of the earth. They are primordial materials which have been erupted from great depths. The Soviet geologists had turned Western orthodox geology on its head. They called their theory of oil origin the a-biotic theorynon-biologicalto distinguish from the Western biological theory of origins.

If they were right, oil supply on earth would be limited only by the amount of hydrocarbon constituents present deep in the earth at the time of the earths formation. Availability of oil would depend only on technology to drill ultra-deep wells and explore into the earths inner regions. They also realized old fields could be revived to continue producing, so called self-replentishing fields. They argued that oil is formed deep in the earth, formed in conditions of very high temperature and very high pressure, like that required for diamonds to form. Oil is a primordial material of deep origin which is transported at high pressure via cold eruptive processes into the crust of the earth, Porfiryev stated. His team dismissed the idea that oil is was biological residue of plant and animal fossil remains as a hoax designed to perpetuate the myth of limited supply.

Defying conventional geology

That radically different Russian and Ukrainian scientific approach to the discovery of oil allowed the USSR to develop huge gas and oil discoveries in regions previously judged unsuitable, according to Western geological exploration theories, for presence of oil. The new petroleum theory was used in the early 1990s, well after the dissolution of the USSR, to drill for oil and gas in a region believed for more than forty-five years, to be geologically barrenthe Dnieper-Donets Basin in the region between Russia and Ukraine.

Following their a-biotic or non-fossil theory of the deep origins of petroleum, the Russian and Ukrainian petroleum geophysicists and chemists began with a detailed analysis of the tectonic history and geological structure of the crystalline basement of the Dnieper-Donets Basin. After a tectonic and deep structural analysis of the area, they made geophysical and geochemical investigations.

A total of sixty one wells were drilled, of which thirty seven were commercially productive, an extremely impressive exploration success rate of almost sixty percent. The size of the field discovered compared with the North Slope of Alaska. By contrast, US wildcat drilling was considered successful with a ten percent success rate. Nine of ten wells are typically dry holes.

That Russian geophysics experience in finding oil and gas was tightly wrapped in the usual Soviet veil of state security during the Cold War era, and went largely unknown to Western geophysicists, who continued to teach fossil origins and, hence, the severe physical limits of petroleum. Slowly it began to dawn on some strategists in and around the Pentagon well after the 2003 Iraq war, that the Russian geophysicists might be on to something of profound strategic importance.

If Russia had the scientific know-how and Western geology not, Russia possessed a strategic trump card of staggering geopolitical import. It was not surprising that Washington would go about erecting a wall of steela network of military bases and ballistic anti-missile shields around Russia, to cut her pipeline and port links to western Europe, China and the rest of Eurasia. Halford Mackinders worst nightmare--a cooperative convergence of mutual interests of the major states of Eurasia, born of necessity and need for oil to fuel economic growth--was emerging. Ironically, it was the blatant US grab for the vast oil riches of Iraq and, potentially, of Iran, that catalyzed closer cooperation between traditional Eurasian foes, China and Russia , and a growing realization in western Europe that their options too were narrowing.

The Peak King

Peak Oil theory is based on a 1956 paper done by the late Marion King Hubbert, a Texas geologist working for Shell Oil. He argued that oil wells produced in a bell curve manner, and once their peak was hit, inevitable decline followed. He predicted the United States oil production would peak in 1970. A modest man, he named the production curve he invented, Hubberts Curve, and the peak as Hubberts Peak. When US oil output began to decline in around 1970 Hubbert gained a certain fame.

The only problem was, it peaked not because of resource depletion in the US fields. It peaked because Shell, Mobil, Texaco and the other partners of Saudi Aramco were flooding the US market with dirt cheap Middle East imports, tariff free, at prices so low California and many Texas domestic producers could not compete and were forced to shut their wells in.

Vietnam success

While the American oil multinationals were busy controlling the easily accessible large fields of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran and other areas of cheap, abundant oil during the 1960s, the Russians were busy testing their alternative theory. They began drilling in a supposedly barren region of Siberia. There they developed eleven major oil fields and one Giant field based on their deep a-biotic geological estimates. They drilled into crystalline basement rock and hit black gold of a scale comparable to the Alaska North Slope.

They then went to Vietnam in the 1980s and offered to finance drilling costs to show their new geological theory worked. The Russian company Petrosov drilled in Vietnams White Tiger oilfield offshore into basalt rock some 17,000 feet down and extracted 6,000 barrels a day of oil to feed the energy-starved Vietnam economy. In the USSR, a-biotic-trained Russian geologists perfected their knowledge and the USSR emerged as the worlds largest oil producer by the mid-1980s. Few in the West understood why, or bothered to ask.

Dr. J. F. Kenney is one of the only few Western geophysicists who has taught and worked in Russia, studying under Vladilen Krayushkin, who developed the huge Dnieper-Donets Basin. Kenney told me in a recent interview that alone to have produced the amount of oil to date that (Saudi Arabias) Ghawar field has produced would have required a cube of fossilized dinosaur detritus, assuming 100% conversion efficiency, measuring 19 miles deep, wide and high. In short, an absurdity.

Western geologists do not bother to offer hard scientific proof of fossil origins. They merely assert as a holy truth. The Russians have produced volumes of scientific papers, most in Russian. The dominant Western journals have no interest in publishing such a revolutionary view. Careers, entire academic professions are at stake after all.

Closing the door

The 2003 arrest of Russian Mikhail Khodorkovsky, of Yukos Oil, took place just before he could sell a dominant stake in Yukos to ExxonMobil after a private meeting with Dick Cheney. Had Exxon got the stake they would have control of the worlds largest resource of geologists and engineers trained in the a-biotic techniques of deep drilling.

Since 2003 Russian scientific sharing of their knowledge has markedly lessened. Offers in the early 1990s to share their knowledge with US and other oil geophysicists were met with cold rejection according to American geophysicists involved.

Why then the high-risk war to control Iraq? For a century US and allied Western oil giants have controlled world oil via control of Saudi Arabia or Kuwait or Nigeria. Today, as many giant fields are declining, the companies see the state-controlled oilfields of Iraq and Iran as the largest remaining base of cheap, easy oil. With the huge demand for oil from China and now India, it becomes a geopolitical imperative for the United States to take direct, military control of those Middle East reserves as fast as possible. Vice President Dick Cheney, came to the job from Halliburton Corp., the worlds largest oil geophysical services company. The only potential threat to that US control of oil just happens to lie inside Russia and with the now-state-controlled Russian energy giants. Hmmmm.

According to Kenney the Russian geophysicists used the theories of the brilliant German scientist Alfred Wegener fully 30 years before the Western geologists discovered Wegener in the 1960s. In 1915 Wegener published the seminal text, The Origin of Continents and Oceans, which suggested an original unified landmass or pangaea more than 200 million years ago which separated into present Continents by what he called Continental Drift.

Up to the 1960s supposed US scientists such as Dr Frank Press, White House science advisor referred to Wegener as lunatic. Geologists at the end of the 1960s were forced to eat their words as Wegener offered the only interpretation that allowed them to discover the vast oil resources of the North Sea. Perhaps in some decades Western geologists will rethink their mythology of fossil origins and realize what the Russians have known since the 1950s. In the meantime Moscow holds a massive energy trump card.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grumpy wrote:
PerpetualYnquisitive

Oil and coal on Earth have organic origins, those on Titan other chemical reactions cause the hydrocarbons. Most of Titans are in the form of liquid methane, a naturally occuring form.

Grumpy Cool


Laughing

Grumpy, I think that I will now consider you my personal jester. You're even better than Krusty and he has made me spew hot liquids threw my nose on several occasions. Have you ever thought about a career in comedy.

Next you'll be trying to convince everyone here that the universe is really just the biggest Rube Goldberg Machine, evar.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grumpy believes everything he is told by the mainstream media and hangs on to it for dear life and won't let go no matter what and don't ever attempt to change or persuade him. It pisses him off really bad.
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